Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[Persivul]

Sakura leaning scum

Why? OMGUS?

[Persivul]

Spoiler:

phil is basically guaranteed to either be scum or towntell very hard very quickly when put under pressure so let's go friends

Does that work when you announce that's what you're doing?

Yes! Technology is genuinely incredible.

phil is basically guaranteed to either be scum or towntell very hard very quickly when put under pressure so let's go friends

What Meta Gives You Such An Impression

None?

So you're just guessing?

No? Not everything has to be based in meta. Things can be based in an impression of someone's personality that I got from like two posts.

These responses are BS, but if IIRC we played as scum together once, and you don't feel at all like you're in your scum game.

[Persivul]

So on the last page Phil comes off as very town. E.g., 62-64 is a good reaction.

Does that implicate James to you? I.e. do you read their interactions as TvT or TvS?

[Phillammon]

At that point mostly, and their reasoning towards the random wagon rubbed me the wrong way, but... it was page 2. There was not much to work with. Since then things have changed- 159 is particularly weird to me, because there was at that point a significant amount more to work from- I read that as them looking for specific people to do things that are indicative, which suggests either they have a bunch of townreads they haven't mentioned, orrrrr that they have hidden information. Hence scumread.

[Phillammon]

No, I'm voting them because they are refusing to volunteer information that'll help me form a read on them, and applying pressure is a good way to

force

them to volunteer information that'll help me form a read on them.

But it wasn't a good way with Gamma?

That's very much a false equivalence. Not least because Gamma was throwing out votes, at the very least- but yeah, the reasons that things form is one helluva lot more important than the actual formation.

[Chemist1422]

The content of 151 isn't the problem, it's the tone, the phrasing and above all the *aggressive* tepidness.

I agree.

random popin is a ???

[Chemist1422]

Hey everyone, I’m James Brafin.
Some things to know:
I policy vote/lynch toxicity. Period. I don’t want it in my game. It’s no fun for anyone.
I don’t like RVS. I’ve heard it said that it builds information, but how can you build information on no foundation? So I’m abstaining my vote. When I put it up you can assume your RVS is over.
I’m also doing a touch of research to improve my preliminary reads, so if I ask a weird question just play along.

Speaking of weird questions, I’d appreciate it if everyone would answer this:
If you could live anywhere, where would it be and why?
For me, it’s somewhere in the north, where you get decent snow. Nebraska, maybe?
Thanks,
JB

also because I remember him bringing it up, I have no idea

But from someone who lives north of Nebraska I can say that snow gets tiring quickly

[Spangled]

Keep in mind please that this is a read-then-react based catch-up.

Spoiler: Catchup

Persivul is kind of pissing me off as of 58 and 50.
Just... seriously, man?

The tone I'm imagining for JB right now in 59 is annoying me though.

61 is... borderline stupid or scummy. People talk to try and get others to talk so they can try and get a hold on the other's alignment.

64 does look opportunistic a bit though. A tiny bit. Tiny.

JB, you are a tiny bit ridiculous in your wording; 'classic logic' kind of makes me laugh. But the logic is sound in 72.

Feeling town!Gamma so far on tone as of 76 and previously.

Not sure what to make of implosion.
I do agree with 83 overall, though. Not sure about Jackal.

Don't agree with 84 necessarily, especially about 62-64 - it's a wee bit posture-y to me. But then, town do posture too.

What's up with 85? Isn't Skellen conf!town as an IC?
I do agree with the Persivul-James interaction commnent though. Persivul-James ain't SvS.

Is 86 a pocket?
...Probably not; not sure what it is though.

Ah, no 91 is telling me that Persivul reads modposts and no one else does.

Still not sure what to make of implosion; 98. NAI right now.

Also not sure what Phill is doing.

To be honest I think I might have argued the same in Phill's position as regards the whole RVS argument.

I like 112 tonewise.
JB is probably town, I reckon.

What even is 116.

NAI, that's what it is.

But I like the thoughts (underexplained as they are) of 118.

In my experience, scum tend to give excuses for not posting far more often than town, as town don't feel as much pressure to post. See 120.

I can accept 122.

Is chemist tunneling in 126? Nah.

129... a bit off?

implosion feels kind of solid; kind of honest in 133... but I've been told that that's mostly NAI, so.

Liking JB more as town; 135 and 138.

Disagreeing with157. Also, it is nothing as a post.

I can see his point in 165 though.

174 I like in tone; just a bit.

Arcfield's ISO is absolute rubbish so far, see 182 for a prime example.
They're not even V/LA.

I like 190's thoughts.

I like the use of objective in 191. Man, JB, please be a wee bit less sure of yourself.

Liking Persivul more and more as of these last few.

[Persivul]

And now I’ve made clear the validity of my points, he backs off.
I’m not sure how I feel about that.

I don't like the way you declare that your own arguments are valid, but that's a playstyle issue. Regarding Phil unvoting a couple posts previously: I'm always pinged when someone bothers to unvote this early in the game.

[Persivul]

Can't say I'm familiar with Gamma's meta, no.

I get the feeling that Gamma is intentionally experimenting with new playstyles.

[Persivul]

In other news I wish Persivul didn't spill the beans so soon about our Innocent Child. Should of let more information and hilarity ensue.

IMO it's NAI, and I didn't want someone else to steal my punchline.

[Persivul]

This post is wolfy because it contributes literally nothing to the game while trying to appear like it does

Yeah, I think we're all familiar with IIoA. Don't like the way you're phrasing it here like it's some big new discovery. Plus it was still RVS.

[Persivul]

Chemist is pinging me. So is Pers, who doesn't seem toe really be adding anything to the gamestate

I was in fuck-off mode yesterday. Was more interested in trolling libs in the Trump thread than actually thinking.

[Persivul]

That seems very passive-aggressive and drift-y to me, like he doesn't give a flip. I don't like that.
Also, I haven't played with you in years. Can I get a confirmation of this, or do I need to meta dive?

Chemist has been like that a lot lately. Probably not AI, but defintiely doesn't help things.

[Persivul]

So Phillammom, you seem odd... your ISO isnt the best

Ouch. Coming right after a VC showing Phil as the leading wagon, this is really bad.

[Persivul]

Here all alone...

[Sakura Hana]

So Phillammom, you seem odd... your ISO isnt the best

Ouch. Coming right after a VC showing Phil as the leading wagon, this is really bad.

Now that you mention it...
I hadn't thought about that

[Gamma Emerald]

Implosion, I get the feeling that that's not an indicator of any alignment, is all, and is just how James functions.


...which can be said for nearly everything they have said this game.

Did he say it was AI?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay I'm done trolling.

Why did you troll at all? I don't recall seeing that from you. Is it something you've done before? If not...why now?

It was a pun.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can't say I'm familiar with Gamma's meta, no.

I get the feeling that Gamma is intentionally experimenting with new playstyles.

While I do thus sometimes, I always announce if I'm taking a significantly different approach to the game.

Btw thinking Percy is town and Phil is scum
VOTE: Philammon

[Chemist1422]

Okay I'm done trolling.

Why did you troll at all? I don't recall seeing that from you. Is it something you've done before? If not...why now?

It was a pun.

— gammaEmerald [GE] ceased trolling open762 [CK] —

ok I’ll stop

[implosion]

Implosion, I get the feeling that that's not an indicator of any alignment, is all, and is just how James functions.


...which can be said for nearly everything they have said this game.

Didn't mean to insinuate that it was alignment-indicative.

Spoiler:

phil is basically guaranteed to either be scum or towntell very hard very quickly when put under pressure so let's go friends

Does that work when you announce that's what you're doing?

Yes! Technology is genuinely incredible.

phil is basically guaranteed to either be scum or towntell very hard very quickly when put under pressure so let's go friends

What Meta Gives You Such An Impression

None?

So you're just guessing?

No? Not everything has to be based in meta. Things can be based in an impression of someone's personality that I got from like two posts.

These responses are BS, but if IIRC we played as scum together once, and you don't feel at all like you're in your scum game.

Twice!
Unfortunately I can't really say the same of you. Maybe a little on this page, but before it you sure don't look much different from what I remember of your scum game.

[implosion]

So on the last page Phil comes off as very town. E.g., 62-64 is a good reaction.

Does that implicate James to you? I.e. do you read their interactions as TvT or TvS?

At this point I'd be inclined to call it TvT. Not confidently. At the time I wouldn't have had any read on James from it.

[Korina]

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