Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Creature]

Hey Pine

Are you aware DP claims to have been neighborized by Tim Goodman?

hmmm

VOTE: Pine

Is this your only reason for scumreading Pine?

No, I started expressing it yesterday.

[Creature]

Probably we have Pine scum.

Pine + Elements + RedPanda?

or maybe it's just Menalque + Pine + someone somewhat obvious and we're all fucking around.

You're gonna have to work hard to explain Pine scum btw

He has been on the sidelines all game?

[Creature]

How long, assuming we always lynch town, before we get to lylo?

This is like the last mislynch we have before LyLo.

[Creature]

Creature coasted in the second half of D2.

Yeah, that happens when there's no progression happening at all.

[Creature]

Like, if it's gonna become:

"Gamma is scum"
"No, he's not"
"Gamma is scum"
"No, he's not"
"Gamma is scum"
"No, he's not"
"Gamma is scum"
"No, he's not"

I'd rather just do something else

[Creature]

Actually I agree

VOTE: Chemist

At worst we lynch a potential LyLo liability

[Creature]

I find it easier to read Gamma Emerald this game than Chemist.

[Creature]

and as scum he busses heavily

?

[Creature]

If Creature is scum, I could see Pine scum, too. It could help explain Pine's defence of Creature.

Well, I scumread Pine anyway lol

[Creature]

and as scum he busses heavily

?

I know you don't think of yourself as bussing heavily but you're one of the most bus happy players on site in terms of quantitative patterns

I think I may have figured who you are.

[Creature]

Townreads:
DP
Elements
Creature

Everyone else is my PoE

Hmmm, that's like the same townreads I have.

[Creature]

VOTE: Pine

[Creature]

ClearlyClarity wasn't town? Not disagreeing just remember that being asserted at one point

Tim Goodman left that stance I think.

[Creature]

I mean I like to go anti-bus when I rand scum.

What game have you been looking when you said I am a busser?

[Creature]

ffs I just want to lynch scum today

[Creature]

I'm more confident on Pine being scum.

[Creature]

I keep flipflopping hard on players

[Creature]

Like, I think you're town but everybody keeps thinking you're scum.

[Creature]

I think this town lacks balls to vote someone like Menalque

[Creature]

I'm at Pine + Menalque rn

Leaning RedPanda as the third.

[Creature]

idk how should I read EP rn :/

[Creature]

If I can get to townread EP, this game is basically a lock if we don't get swayed too much.

[Creature]

If I can get to townread EP, this game is basically a lock if we don't get swayed too much.

What

Me + DP + Elements + probably Gamma + EP if we get to townread him

Then we can use our erection power to obliterate the rest of the players containing the three scum within.

[Creature]

Oops, sorry, awkward flavor to use.

[Creature]

If I can get to townread EP, this game is basically a lock if we don't get swayed too much.

What

Me + DP + Elements + probably Gamma + EP if we get to townread him

Then we can use our erection power to obliterate the rest of the players containing the three scum within.

Yeah but like

Why are you looking to townread EP in particular if you don’t have a townread on them?

Thought he would be easy to townread if he's town.

[Creature]

Would you kill Pine + Menalque + RedPanda?

[Creature]

Screw it

VOTE: RedPanda

[Creature]

Maybe yeah

Better we lock the game today

[Creature]

With loyal neighborizor dead I don't see how we are expecting more hard clears. Maybe, maybe not? If someone had two innos, that might be worth claiming, but I'm not assuming we have anthing left that can generate innos so I'm not sure what the point in massclaiming today would be other than telling scum where to shoot

Well, we should have atleast two town PRs through the remaining players. We'd get a clear on them I guess.

[Creature]

or maybe screw it, just lynch RedPanda

[Creature]

I've been flipflopping all day because I want to hit scum today.

[Creature]

With loyal neighborizor dead I don't see how we are expecting more hard clears. Maybe, maybe not? If someone had two innos, that might be worth claiming, but I'm not assuming we have anthing left that can generate innos so I'm not sure what the point in massclaiming today would be other than telling scum where to shoot

Well, we should have atleast two town PRs through the remaining players. We'd get a clear on them I guess.

This is, frankly, the first thing that has made me worried about Creature!scum

This is exactly the kind of thing I’d say to set up a PR scumbuddy to get falsely cleared

I hadn’t contradicted myself about Creature until post 2425

Quote the contradiction. I fucking dare you

This really feels like something scum!you would say.

[Creature]

I give up on the idea of massclaiming.

[Creature]

The Creature meta he claims is inaccurate.

[Creature]

though I think my emotions of the game are pretty clear so you can easily tell if it makes sense with being town in a shitty gamestate or whatever scum-related you think it can be.

[Creature]

The Creature meta he claims is inaccurate.

but if he believes it why would he townread you?

idk

I thought he looked my posts and saw how genuine my posts actually are.

[Creature]

Also at some point of the game I grew 100 posts pretty naturally I think, so should be a big towntell I guess.

[Creature]

idk man

I think me falling off doesn't mean shit

[Creature]

I was pretty excited when I joined this game and managed to rack up a lot of posts early.

D2 I still felt like I could solve the game through Tim's reads.

[Creature]

Now this game looks just like a shitfiesta.

[Creature]

Like, I think town stopped talking too much and wolves have started taking more presence.

[Creature]

Wished I could lynch both of you because this looks way more promising than the Gamma v Menalque shit.

[Creature]

idk about you tbh

But I know Pine looks bad here

VOTE: Pine

[Creature]

Menalque is probably scum too

[Creature]

uuuuuugh this game

[Creature]

Try to.

[Creature]

Wished we had an actual plurality lynch.

It's so bullshit when you get to vote someone and that someone will just react like "lol you suck" because they're likely far from L-1 and definitely not at immediate danger of being lynched.

[Creature]

VOTE: Chemist

L-1

[Creature]

Now something should happen

[Creature]

This better not be four scum.

9v4 is unacceptable unless it's modrevealed at game start.

[Creature]

Oh right, technically if it was four scum DP would need to be scum too along EP, RP and Pine

[Creature]

VOTE: Chemist

Finally

It’s been like herding cats in this damn game.

idk why I took these two posts as a scumclaim

[Creature]

tbh I don't care for the claim when someone had all day to do something.

[Creature]

Still probably might end lynching Pine if this flips town

[Creature]

I'm not willing to clear Pine either if this flips scum

[Creature]

Pine + Menalque seems likely the way

[Creature]

Yes, I can easily see scum adopting a tunnel-y under the radar style this game.

[Creature]

Do you think someone will ever read his posts?

[Creature]

like is he posting something people will question or something? Or is he just posting bunch of walls that bore everyone because enough of them voids all your posts?

[Creature]

idk, I didn't find him boring to read when I replaced in ClearlyClarity's game

[Creature]

VOTE: Menalque

Goodbye

[Creature]

Yes, apparently the secret recipe is being more reckless

[Creature]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Creature]

idk, I didn't find him boring to read when I replaced in ClearlyClarity's game

Also you made like 2 posts that game and I’d already caught your slot as scum

Actually you were way more hype D1 even when you were pushing on every town PR.

[Creature]

idk, I didn't find him boring to read when I replaced in ClearlyClarity's game

Also you made like 2 posts that game and I’d already caught your slot as scum

Actually you were way more hype D1 even when you were pushing on every town PR.

Literally what are you talking about

ClearlyClarity's game.

[Creature]

I pushed on pisskop a bit until the claim then hard defended him

Yep, you pushed pisskop and chennisden, just then you pushed actual scum

[Creature]

Let's talk about {GE|Menalque}

|GE|GE+||Mena+|Mena|

[Creature]

I support on lynching between GE and Mena

[Creature]

I think there's scum offwagon so one of them must be scum.

[Creature]

Menalque is Town, Creature. Pull your head out of your adorable, Totodile cloaca.

Can you be less cringey, please?

[Creature]

I pushed on pisskop a bit until the claim then hard defended him

Yep, you pushed pisskop and chennisden, just then you pushed actual scum

I didn’t push chenn

That’s a lie

Oh oops town as a whole did

[Creature]

Will you vote Gamma today, Mena?

[Creature]

Menalque is Town, Creature. Pull your head out of your adorable, Totodile cloaca.

Can you be less cringey, please?

I'm in a mood.

I could post a fitting youtube video here, but I'm hella afraid of someone getting offended over it and reporting me.

[Creature]

I think there's scum offwagon so one of them must be scum.

Explain in greater detail?

Wagonomics

[Creature]

actually maybe we should check EP today

[Creature]

My only concern with that is that I think the EP|RP dichotomy is real.

Well, if there was a bus on Chemist, it's most likely between them and you

[Creature]

The frustrating part of it is that they're both really scummy, and I'm not sure which one's guilty.

I'm interested to see how this day will go.

[Creature]

I plan to end this day today or tomorrow though.

Any further I'll pretend we just missed the deadline and thus nolynched.

[Creature]

Which wagon are you talking about?

Chemist's wagon.

If both Mena and Gamma are town, it means two scum have bussed Chemist.

[Creature]

Yes, this is probably not a dichotomy, it's a trichotomy.

[Creature]

Can't wait to see how we will do today.

[Creature]

Chemist was kind of a liability, though, and the possibility of a double-bus shouldn't be discounted.

If we're both town, then EP + RP would be double bussing.

[Creature]

Anything gonna happen this game?

[Creature]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-1

[Creature]

Let's see if the magic will work again.

[Creature]

Redpanda, otoh, is likely scum. Their posts feel like those of a hyperposter. Like, read a post in isolation and it feels like it's coming from someone who is making moves and getting reads from how others respond

except they're not doing that. The disconnect is likely scum-indicative

creature is scumurap capable of faking this post?

tbh I'd be more inclined to call urap town just for not doing better than that.

[Creature]

I was waiting Menalque to vote Gamma so I could put him to L-1, but your vote works too.

[Creature]

Aww man that would've been a great reaction if someone hammered.

[Creature]

zzzz

[Creature]

If I’m going to give this the time of day we need fullclaims in EP and GE’s next posts.

GE already claimed VT like D2.

[Creature]

If I’m going to give this the time of day we need fullclaims in EP and GE’s next posts.

I'm VT as I claimed D2, EP I'd the loyal neughborizer to remove all doubt

Even-night I assume?

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

Oh well

[Creature]

I trust EP's claim.

[Creature]

If you all trust me, it's basically gonna be:
DP (cleared by Tim)
EP (even-night loyal neighborizer)
GE (cleared by DP)
me

vs

RP
Pine
Mena

[Creature]

Who should we lynch first from {RP, Pine, Mena}?

[Creature]

I think RP is the towniest out of them.

[Creature]

VOTE: Pine

[Creature]

It's L-1 btw

[Creature]

A mafia roleblocker could easily balance this however.

[Creature]

Also scum already got a rolecop to find them easier.

[Creature]

If I go mod spec, I'd say it's one admin with two-shot rolecop and two grunts for scum.

[Creature]

Two loyal neighborizers aren't really overpowered.

Assuming scum manages to not shoot any of them N1 and N2, most likely there will be about two more town clears and that's it. Or one of them could fail at scum and not be sure if it's a guilty.

By N3 scum should have atleast one of the neighborizers pinned, otherwise yeah they deserve to lose here.

[Creature]

If EP is scum, do you think he would've pulled that claim by himself?

If not, who most likely would've?

[Creature]

It's hard to talk about setup balances in game when I've already seen games with a balance way worse than two alternating semi-cops + one BG.

[Creature]

I'll probably wait they explain why they acted like that.

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

Gamma was pretty hard town by the end of D2. Mena, I think you're town but you're stuck tunneling on Gamma.

This is a very inactive game. Could mean scum are happy with where it's headed and we need to seriously rethink everything

Agreed. Assuming town!Gamma, that would also explain why yesterday hit a bit of a lull once both wagons built up. Scum knew it was tvt and just coasted. This aligns with RP's observation that Creature coasted in the second half of D2.

Because he bleeds Town

Can you stop just asserting this and actually explain it

Creature has done fuck all this game

How is that bleeding town

Agreed. I don't see town!creature here. I'd like someone to lay it all out.

I would join in a Pine vote today.

I'd like to give Mena some time to get out of the Gamma tunnel.

Get off Gamma

Gotta say he was really commited to that fakeclaim since the start of D3 then.

[Creature]

huh okay. I was just waiting to see if you would claim pr

vote pine

I mean I guess he probably would have claimed if he was pr but no Intent?

Would hate if he happened to be PR.

Looks like that time someone refused to counterclaim scum when it was obviously optimal and it was obvious no one would want to risk lynching the cop claim.

[Creature]

Yes, I was neighborized by EP

VOTE: Menalque

[Creature]

RedPanda.

[Creature]

Feel free to hammer him.

[Creature]

I have no idea why someone would poke vend to Gamma anyway.

[Creature]

Lmao gg guys

We really got mechanically fucked

Yep, setup was weird.

Bodyguard probably shouldn't have been there.

[Creature]

maybe without the bodyguard this game could've been more alright.

[Creature]

We really got mechanically fucked

Welcome to the club

[Creature]

Creature how did you know I was scum from so early?

Initially I sheeped Tim/RC but then I noticed the way you were playing here was vastly different from your town game.

[Creature]

it's actually really unpleasant being the eternal n1 kill because i never get to do fun stuff in mafia outside of scumhunting d1

Sometimes I end lucky with scum thinking they can mislynch me and thus leaving me alive.

[Creature]

Kelvin