Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

Creature · Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:21 am

I think RP is the towniest out of them.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:22 am

In post 2648, Creature wrote:If you all trust me, it's basically gonna be:
DP (cleared by Tim)
EP (even-night loyal neighborizer)
GE (cleared by DP)
me

vs

RP
Pine
Mena

This is where I'm at too

RedPanda · Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:24 am

You know I'm good with that.

Creature · Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:24 am

VOTE: Pine

Creature · Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:25 am

It's L-1 btw

RedPanda · Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:25 am

ok almost hammered good think i checked votecount

Detective Pikachu · Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:58 am

In post 2627, Gamma Emerald wrote:Notice how I was super confident DP was town out of nowhere D3? Me being being neigborized is why

can you expand on this

mostly why you wouldn't think I was mech town since start of day 2?

Detective Pikachu · Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:00 am

In post 2637, Gamma Emerald wrote:Before niehjborizing me EP posted something along the lines if "no team magma allowed" which indicated he was loyal, unless you want to argue that was a planned misdirect which is pretty next level for a newb
So like imo my town flip conftowns EP

Gamma this "lynch me before EP" argument is weird af you know that right?

Detective Pikachu · Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:03 am

wait but does this mean that I'm not dying tonight

I want to just hang out and shitpost with Nick dammit

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:09 am

In post 2656, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 2627, Gamma Emerald wrote:Notice how I was super confident DP was town out of nowhere D3? Me being being neigborized is why
can you expand on this

mostly why you wouldn't think I was mech town since start of day 2?

I believe he meant EP*

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:14 am

We pretty much auto-win at night if we lynch the roleblocker btw.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:14 am

In post 2660, EspressoPatronum wrote:We pretty much auto-win at night if we lynch the roleblocker btw.

Assuming 3 scum in Mena|Pine|RP*

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:15 am

In post 2661, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 2660, EspressoPatronum wrote:We pretty much auto-win at night if we lynch the roleblocker btw.
Assuming 3 scum in Mena|Pine|RP*

2 scum*

Detective Pikachu · Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:19 am

what roleblocker?

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:23 am

In post 2650, Creature wrote:I think RP is the towniest out of them.

RP wanting to lynch me is a bit of a red flag, but I want to see Pine flip first.

His attempt at discrediting the hood reveal was pretty scummy. He also wanted to know which of Gamma or me was the neighborizer. In an ideal world, Gamma and I could have hidden which of us was the neighborizer... it looks like Pine was aware of this and called for us to fully reveal.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:24 am

In post 2663, Detective Pikachu wrote:what roleblocker?

If loyal neighborizer targets scum, they get a "roleblocked" result. I'm assuming scum has a roleblocker to weaken the neighborizer's ability to confirm scum.

Detective Pikachu · Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:25 am

why would scum be informed that there was a second loyal neighborizor?

pedit: what? loyal neighborizor targeting scum just gets no result, why would you they get a "roleblocked" result?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:28 am

In post 2656, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 2627, Gamma Emerald wrote:Notice how I was super confident DP was town out of nowhere D3? Me being being neigborized is why
can you expand on this

mostly why you wouldn't think I was mech town since start of day 2?

I was like super duper confident D3 though because the being neighborized really flipped a switch there, like obv it was pretty clear already but the point is I was dead set there

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:33 am

In post 2666, Detective Pikachu wrote:why would scum be informed that there was a second loyal neighborizor?

I don't think they are. If they were, they probably would have insta-killed me for my neighborhood crumb.

I was just saying that it's in scum's best interest to discredit my hood reveal. Pine's attempts at same were therefore scummy.

pedit: what? loyal neighborizor targeting scum just gets no result, why would you they get a "roleblocked" result?

I'm not sure how specific I can be here. Let me get back to you on this.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:37 am

In post 2666, Detective Pikachu wrote:why would scum be informed that there was a second loyal neighborizor?

pedit: what? loyal neighborizor targeting scum just gets no result, why would you they get a "roleblocked" result?

No result = roleblocked wut

Pine · Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:24 am

Oh fucking nonsense.

Two unrestricted loyal Neighborizers is unbalanced. Even taking into account odd/even night, that’s way too much investigative power.

Loyal Neighborizers essentially create Masonries. If they were 1-shot I’d buy it, but no restrictions? If Tim we’re alive we’d have five ICs, six by N4.

Fucking no.

Mafia disloyal Neighborizer, final answer. It’s the ONLY way this is balanced

Pine · Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:24 am

Also, questioning your claim isn’t “discrediting,” gtfo with that shit. That’s called being sensibly suspicious.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:28 am

In post 2670, Pine wrote:Oh fucking nonsense.

Two unrestricted loyal Neighborizers is unbalanced. Even taking into account odd/even night, that’s way too much investigative power.

Loyal Neighborizers essentially create Masonries. If they were 1-shot I’d buy it, but no restrictions? If Tim we’re alive we’d have five ICs, six by N4.

Fucking no.

Mafia disloyal Neighborizer, final answer. It’s the ONLY way this is balanced

You're right - unrestricted loyal neighborizers would be pretty insane.

Good thing the two in this game were restricted to odd- and even-nights.

Can we hammer him now?

Creature · Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:28 am

A mafia roleblocker could easily balance this however.

Creature · Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:29 am

Also scum already got a rolecop to find them easier.