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Post Post #4825 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 4821, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4818, Bitmap wrote:Ank, did you really think I was scum the whole game or were you loosening up towards the end?
idk when I went from "scumlock" to "can't ever townread"

but it happened and I legitimately could not get past it until you flipped
I felt like MariaR had a huge influence in that read. I had constant fear that you were being pocketed.
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
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Post Post #4826 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:36 pm

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Vi is probably enlightened enough to reap value out of speccing a bunch of mafia games without playing them
like those retired nfl players who coach teams and stuff
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4827 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:36 pm

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For those that town read me, what gave it away towards the end?
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
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Post Post #4828 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:37 pm

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I felt like I was at a material disadvantage in the game by not having friendships within site meta and I don't really think mafia should be about that. I think it would have been far easier to win dancing with DV than with unwnd as an example and that was never an option because I don't have whatever relationship Cephrir has with him
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4829 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:38 pm

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In post 4827, Bitmap wrote:For those that town read me, what gave it away towards the end?
You were so quiet in the scum PT man
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4830 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:38 pm

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yet so active in the game
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4831 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:44 pm

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In post 4808, Alisae wrote:Vi is cool
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Post Post #4832 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:45 pm

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so cool
much scum
wow
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Post Post #4833 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:46 pm

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Cephir is also cool and I want to play more mafia games with Cephir
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Post Post #4834 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:48 pm

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pops 4283 wrote:Vi is probably enlightened enough to reap value out of speccing a bunch of mafia games without playing them
like those retired nfl players who coach teams and stuff
I mean I openly said in my position that I would have lost this game if I were given Unilateral Dictatorship Powah (which I don't get often enough, sadly)
it's honestly surprising that my accuracy isn't worse than usual given the huge gap between when I was active and now, given how much the site meta has had time to change

if people find value in my commentary then A) that's kind of accidental because most of my reads post was GUT! >=D and B) so much the better but it comes without guarantees

and I sure don't care about me making meta cases on people because they're actually difficult to do well
I feel like they should only work on me and yet holy
heck
people of all levels of experience with me suck at reading me
if they work with/for others... well, I kind of have to believe in them in general tbh
I've been wrong about enough reads over the years to not do so

talking of me losing this game
if I were in (for instance) Firebringer's position in this game I would have opened second dance by PTBarnuming this line of thought

An offer you can't refuse?Everyone but unwnd+pops should leave the game.
To enforce this, my group will be last.
To enforce THAT, pops+unwnd can vote my team out.

If you don't believe unwnd+pops is Town, you can vote them instead.
If you believe that both scum are paired, you can make that case and we'll go from there.
Other than that, get going. The fun police have arrived; dance over.

and it would have been interesting to see how that would have gone
especially since it would not have made logical sense to vote for
my group
unless you thought we were S-S
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Post Post #4835 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:49 pm

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In post 4828, popsofctown wrote:I felt like I was at a material disadvantage in the game by not having friendships within site meta and I don't really think mafia should be about that. I think it would have been far easier to win dancing with DV than with unwnd as an example and that was never an option because I don't have whatever relationship Cephrir has with him
*thumbs up* emoji. Pairs are largely determined by who you have some rapport with on site, with some selection among those. You could have even been left out potentially.

(and yes, the emoji posts were because of your GD thread)
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Post Post #4836 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:50 pm

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In post 4834, Vi wrote:
pops 4283 wrote:Vi is probably enlightened enough to reap value out of speccing a bunch of mafia games without playing them
like those retired nfl players who coach teams and stuff
I mean I openly said in my position that I would have lost this game if I were given Unilateral Dictatorship Powah (which I don't get often enough, sadly)
it's honestly surprising that my accuracy isn't worse than usual given the huge gap between when I was active and now, given how much the site meta has had time to change

if people find value in my commentary then A) that's kind of accidental because most of my reads post was GUT! >=D and B) so much the better but it comes without guarantees

and I sure don't care about me making meta cases on people because they're actually difficult to do well
I feel like they should only work on me and yet holy
heck
people of all levels of experience with me suck at reading me
if they work with/for others... well, I kind of have to believe in them in general tbh
I've been wrong about enough reads over the years to not do so

talking of me losing this game
if I were in (for instance) Firebringer's position in this game I would have opened second dance by PTBarnuming this line of thought

An offer you can't refuse?Everyone but unwnd+pops should leave the game.
To enforce this, my group will be last.
To enforce THAT, pops+unwnd can vote my team out.

If you don't believe unwnd+pops is Town, you can vote them instead.
If you believe that both scum are paired, you can make that case and we'll go from there.
Other than that, get going. The fun police have arrived; dance over.

and it would have been interesting to see how that would have gone
especially since it would not have made logical sense to vote for
my group
unless you thought we were S-S
Sounds like how I played this the time I was conftown.
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Post Post #4837 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:50 pm

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In post 4836, RadiantCowbells wrote:Sounds like how I played this the time I was conftown.
The time you almost scared me with the shortaru pair.
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Post Post #4838 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 4837, Creature wrote:
In post 4836, RadiantCowbells wrote:Sounds like how I played this the time I was conftown.
The time you almost scared me with the shortaru pair.
They were paired because DVA/Short wasn't SvS

And the only requirement for that pairing was not SvS :c
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Post Post #4839 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:52 pm

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Hell, the fact that people would never bring them to endgame bc Shortaru was scummy was a plus not a minus
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Post Post #4840 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:54 pm

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RC, did u actually read this whole thing?
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
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Post Post #4841 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:54 pm

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I think I liked the Guns & Roses mini better than this setup. This game had a Day 0 Kagami and a Shiro and an Ank in it tho
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4842 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:54 pm

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I was in guns & roses :V

not while you were in it though
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Post Post #4843 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:55 pm

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If you had killed us faster, I could have joined the new G&R!
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Post Post #4844 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:55 pm

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No you weren't, the replacement after I died was Blake Belladonna
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #4845 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:56 pm

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blake is me :(
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Post Post #4846 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 4840, Bitmap wrote:RC, did u actually read this whole thing?
Almost all of it, mostly to complain about how bad all the pairings were where everyone was locktown paired with a scummy slot
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Post Post #4847 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:57 pm

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In post 4845, Ankamius wrote:blake is me :(
But that's the person that abuses me in discord
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4848 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:57 pm

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Creature/Ank was a free win pairing
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Post Post #4849 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:57 pm

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In post 4846, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 4840, Bitmap wrote:RC, did u actually read this whole thing?
Almost all of it, mostly to complain about how bad all the pairings were where everyone was locktown paired with a scummy slot
what were your reads in predance?

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