Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[Formerfish]

hi what’s up

something something greeting tell

Only a tell for newbies, not people who know about the newbie greeting tell.

[Formerfish]

Im against your policy lynch, as It discourages genuine clash. If someone comes across poorly you try to kill them... which is toxic in and of its self.

Do you really think there's any chance of a policy lynch? This seems like a contrived attempt at contributing.

implosion wagon doesn't look possible today so

Unvote. Vote: Thespio.

I dont understand this either.

Imp wagon not happening, so you vote with him?

[Formerfish]

Dry-fit's vote is yuck; feels opportunistic.

VOTE: Dry-fit

Its a bad vote, but Dry has had some good posts. I think they outweigh this on the scale, and a vote can be unmade.

[Formerfish]

Dry-fit's vote is yuck; feels opportunistic.

VOTE: Dry-fit

Mindmeld

VOTE: Dryfit

Bad sheep.

VOTE: Dry-fit
This seems new and hip

This is an opportunistic vote. Like textbook. Do you have a progression on this vote?

[Formerfish]

Imp always seems to be the catalyst to a wagon seeming like it has more steam than it really does, always comes swooping in like 3rd or 4th on a wagon right after the 2nd or 3rd person voted.

[Formerfish]

That wagon moved faster than I'm comfortable with

UNVOTE:

Eventually we are going to need one to go to l-1 and get a claim. We cant go to deadline with an unknown lynch.

[Formerfish]

A player being wagoned quickly can also indicate they're scummy which can indicate that they are, in fact scum!

Or thats its day 1 and town are more likely to jump at anything that moves.

Which is why we need to relax and just let this unfold the way that it does. We are not going to solve this all on day 1, we are going to start today and get the best lynch we can get. Hope for scum, and then go from there. If we mislynch then we look at the wagons and we narrow our field. Repeat and narrow and repeat. And eventually scum will just stick out as being the last thing left that makes sense.

[Formerfish]

VOTE: chemist

I didn't like that vote, and I like the unvote even less. (Yes, I know I did a similar thing way earlier. I have bad expreiences with "accidental" extended quickhammers in RVS.)

You voted someone, then someone else voted them and you unvoted. Now you claim a fear of quick hammers. There are 13 people in this game and only what 3 are scum? it takes 7 to lynch right now, if you and the other person who had voted with you are town it would have taken all 3 scum and then 2 other peole to vote to quick hammer.

I dont know how you treat lolhammers, but i generally bury them if they end up being on town.

And to compare your pulling out to chems unvote is not a fair comparison. Chems unvote is more nuanced where yours was pointless.

[Formerfish]

...which in turn would suggest thespio and chem on a team, which I can buy, though it is maybe early to be looking for associatives.

Have you ever been horseback riding and mistook a windmill for an attacking knight?

[Formerfish]

First there was a phil wagon, then thesp wagon, then dry fit wagon.
And eveyrone gets scared everytime these wagons get off.

You'll never lynch scum like this.

This is town.

[Formerfish]

VOTE COUNT 1.10

Thespio (5, L-2!):

Jackall711, Persivul, Dry-fit, James Brafin, Phillammon

Dry-fit (3):

Elastic Plastic, implosion, Sakura Hara

Phillammon (1):

Gamma Emerald

Persivul (1):

Doctor Drew

Sakura Hara (0):

implosion (0):

James Brafin (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Chemist1422 (0):

Jackal711 (0):

Doctor Drew (0):

Spangled (0):

Elastic Plastic (0):

No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting (3):

Spangled, Thespio, Chemist1422
With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

(expired on 2019-07-31 21:10:00) remain in the day.

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VOTE: Unvote

Just realized where my vote was.

[Formerfish]

Dont do drugs kids.

[Formerfish]

or is it dont do your kids drugs?

[Formerfish]

Dont give drugs to your kids?

[Formerfish]

Phil is more obvtown than before.

Starting to hunch that thespio is town though I don’t have like good evidence for it

this reads as scum hedging on his thes read.

Notice how he sits on Thes even though hes starting to doubt his read? This way if Thes gets lynched Imp can come out tomorrow and be all like "Shit guys, I was right to doubt my Thes read. I wish I had been more sure of myself, shucks, its going to be so sad Thes isnt here."

And then start in on his next mislynch

[Formerfish]

Phil is more obvtown than before.

Starting to hunch that thespio is town though I don’t have like good evidence for it

You’re voting the counterwagon but you just now started having a hunch?

Never mind, he Imp voted Dry.

Both are bad votes.

[Formerfish]

VOTE: jackal

I remember you from when I used to play ages ago.

And by ages ago......5 years ago.

Are you a secret alt or are you out?

Imma let you finish your deep dive, but wanted to jump in to say..........not an alt per se. I used to have an account on here, FuDuzn if anyone else wants meta as well. But literally haven't used it in 5 years and wanted to start fresh.

Ok, just wanted to make sure that if i knew you I would know about it. You dont seem familiar, so I dont think we ever crossed paths.

[Formerfish]

I like this formerfish person for town.

Im not sure if you are being playful since we know each other, or if you dont know me and im feeling like you should?

[Formerfish]

You voted Gamma and then 1 person voted after you, 2 posts later you unvote because things are moving too fast.

This is basically this entire game so far.
Every.
Single.
Wagon.
"OH MY GOD TOO FAST WAGON"

I know, a wagon has to happen eventually, 7 votes can come at any time, but I do think that a bad wagon can gain steam faster than a good one. If you think about it all scum needs to do is wait for a townie to make a psuh and then have one scummer back them. They wait and see if anyone stakes the bait and if a second townie falls then its 1 scum 2 town on a mislynch.

2nd scum comes out and makes it 4 votes, 2 more townies get turned by the 4 people yelling to lnych and then final scum hammers at deadline or one of us wh oare arguing against the lynch does so we dont no lynch.

We need to avoid things we can avoid by figuring out who is most scummy, pushing them and getting a claim.

[Formerfish]

I think this James person is town.

I think youre right. Do you have a read off Phil in this situation, or just JB?

At that point i had him as scum.
Not sure what to think of him right now coz of the latest wagon developments.

Now that im here lets talk about this, and why you jumped ship on phil to vote thes because thes said phil might be scum. Seems like a weird jump to someone agreeing with you, donit?

[Formerfish]

Okay I'm done trolling. Btw I realize that might be a pain in the ass to read so if anyone is having trouble I'll post a translation to normie talk.
Also @Sakura uhhhhh you voted me at the start and just now remember who I am, what?

I figured this was what you were doing, but why? Shits and giggles?

I have never seen you play this way.

Mass confusion, essentially.

But why? I dont think ive seen you play as scum (I legit dont remember) so all I have is a town mindset for you and this hasnt been it so far. You said you were doing it to do it, but town you has never done that. Town you got mad at us for the eagles reference. Town you in that game would have gotten mad at you posting in this game, but you seem cool with it here, which bothers me.

[Formerfish]

Can people start doing more AI stuff.

Be a leader. There has been plenty said that you could push at this point. You've seemed town so far, this seems lazy and scummy.

Im not a good leader.

Thats fair. Then understand where you are weak and figure out a way to not be weak there. If you cant lead then you need to figure out how to find someone you can sheep.

[Formerfish]

James you know me, you should know fluff posting is NAI for me.
Also what about Chemist pings you?

I know you and feel like you got angry at us when we posted a song lyric you didnt get and threw a fit.

I dont know you to troll and fluff post at all. Should I be concerned?

You should be concerned that you haven't played with the fun side of me yet d'_'b

I didnt realize there was this side to you. Never meeting people face to face will pigeonhole people sometimes i think.

[Formerfish]

So Phillammom, you seem odd... your ISO isnt the best

Anyone else you find odd?

Why does him asking about Phil bring you out of shit posting and playing the game all of a sudden?

The fact he singled out Phil piqued my interest

Why? Was your interest satiated?

[Formerfish]

I think either implosion or me are reading this game upside down.

If you are town and you are seeing someone see the opposite of everything you see, what does that usually tell you?

I used to think they are scum, but that isnt always the case i learned the hard way.

True, but anything is likely to happen given a long enough time line. I find that when someone has the opposite views of me they are either scum or very wrong. If they are scum it doesnt matter what they think. If they are wrong town you have to figure that out and see where you can overlap to meld with them. Sometimes town cant be assimilated and needs to be eliminated to implicate someone else.

I selfhammered in a game recently because my town flip implicated the last scum and he conceded.