the thread title sucked the whole game

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Vote count 1.1

bob3141 (3):

Skygazer, the worst, Blake Belladonna

Skygazer (2):

Garmr, bob3141

osuka (1):

Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (1):

emps

the worst (1):

osuka

emps (1):

Firebringer

osuka (1):

Iconeum

not voting (2):

Arcfield, tn5421

with 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 1 ends august 5th at 17:20 central US time; in (expired on 2019-08-05 17:20:00)

mod notes

• Alacrity will now use the account Blake Belladonna; Elastic Plastic will now use the account Skygazer
  
  
• phone vc

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[Garmr]

Her posting feels very flat, and I would not be surprised if her comment on the duck and emps was designed to look for early access into the potential townblock!

That's a nice intuitive pronoun usage! Unless you've already figured out my main. I think that's a read you arrive at naturally, though? Which is why I gave you town points in my vote on duck.

This post feels very self conscious. =(

After a quick skim of the thread teh first thing that strikes me is that garmr comes off very similar to the mason game where we were both masons. So for now baring anything I feel like he is town.

Now to look at the thread and look for the key that will unlock who the scum are. After all you cant find who is the scum by keeping yourself locked up

I would like to ask, do you have more than one game of experience with Garmr so far?

VOTE: the worst

Ala can be town for now?

The whole tell thing doesn't apply because she's

very

much not a newbie.

Not really liking this vote as after reading through the thread worst is coming off as townie to me. So find the vote a little suspect as I don't think there is enough reason to vote for him over others. Not entirely sure if this comes from scum or simply a townie with a bad read

But for now let's see where this leads

VOTE: Elastic Plastic

Oh dear, this is also quite self-conscious! =(

I like making avis for MS if you have an idea of what you want.

do you have any other takes, Bob? Garmr townread is particularly easy in your shoes given you've just finished a mason game together (high pocket equity if ya catch my drift)

Also endorse Elastic wagon enthusiastically. I'll join it later most likely.

This Elastic Plastic wagon is looking quite sketchy at this point!

i'm also wary of the fact both ank and krazzy would know those are minor towntells (probably ank more than krazzy) and they are not very sound stances
what alacrity does next might be more alignment indicative i suppose.

I maintain the stance that trying to read me on day one is very likely a waste of time! =)

Alacrity
emps
Firebringer
Elastic Plastic
Iconeum
osuka
tn5421
Arcfield
Gamma Emerald
Garmr
bob3141
the worst

VOTE: bob3141

I am currently okay with the bob wagon! =)

Garmr see's you indirectly threw shade at him and put him in your scum list while avoiding talking about him.
Garmr didn't like that

But that aside I don't get how you arrived to your conclusions even with the information you left out.

Your only posts of Elastic Plastic are about how scummy, even your most recent one is they are looking self conscious they are yet they are in your top three town reads.

You mention not liking that "the worst" wanting to jump on calling it sketchy. But the worst never jumped on despite the fact the two of them have been cross scum reading each other all game. In fact the worst is now currently voting together With Elastic plastic on the Bob wagon and you have no qualms about jumping on despite through the whole game scum reading both.

I would be deeply entertaining a Elastic Plastic, The worst and Alacrity scum team if not for the fact The worst isolated is pretty townie this game.

[emps]

im going to do the catchup thing real quick

srsly why is all the activity during the night ;-;

[bob3141]

I like making avis for MS if you have an idea of what you want.

do you have any other takes, Bob? Garmr townread is particularly easy in your shoes given you've just finished a mason game together (high pocket equity if ya catch my drift)

Also endorse Elastic wagon enthusiastically. I'll join it later most likely.

The Mason game finished a month ago it's just the last one i was in the same game as him. I don't have an example of his scum game so can't really compare but after a quick glance he does appear similar but as I said the town read is barring anything turning up.

At this stage I can't be entirely sure if its being influenced by the fun mason game I had with him. But that is my initial impression as I compared the two threads and felt a similarity to approach.


Got no other town reads other than leaning towards you and Garmr being town from both your posts prior to post im quoting. (working chronologically so not read past it yet). Most of my reads tend to be either null or varying degree of scum read. As I always try to solve the game as whole rather than individual player at a time.

[emps]

my goal this game is to have you votepark me just to prove that you really can't read methe first time i was town, the second time i flip green i hope you know it's not a coincidence

refresh my memory? name of the game or smt?

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=74747

baby jezus that's from January

2018

i'll have to skim that, i don't know what happened in that game anymore

why... would you even bring up a game from Januarary 2018 as "proof" that he cant read you? his join date is like around Januarary 2018 i think, so he was literally a newb so his playstyle as well as urs probably changed a lot...

[Firebringer]

Alacrity will now use the account Blake Belladonna; Elastic Plastic will now use the account Skygazer

u fuckin lazy alt slippers

[Skygazer]

i blame technology

[Firebringer]

i blame ur work ethic

[emps]

osuka ur try hard push here looks stupid.

or forced, Idk. Pick one.

you get a cookie baked in dragon fire if you pick one

uh tbh i feel like its both

if i had to choose one, it'd be the first.

[emps]

@Elastic, i think garmr intended to be coy/prompt iconeum into producing alignment indicative content with this question
but in a vacuum his vote pinged somewhat opportunistic

combining those two factors, he tried to coyly interrogate iconeum while voting him which has the subtlety of "WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS, SCUM???"

i was going to meta check him to work out whether completely unsubtle interrogation was alignment indicative, and while i was internally waxing poetic i suppose i just felt like asking him to see if he was aware of it as a tell for himself.

i didn't bother in the end; net of all things i think it's kinda towny and his other posts have been towny

Okay I just read this, you're probably town lmfao.

wait, whats so townie about this?

[emps]

osuka ur try hard push here looks stupid.

or forced, Idk. Pick one.

Have to agree with this. lean the former

why the former? it pinged me more as the latter

Didn't get the sense he didn't believe what he was posting

what do you mean like "didnt believe what he was posting"

do you mean it was like a forced scumread/tunnel?

like someone thinks they've already like sussed them and its to go back or smth?

but i dont think that applys because its very early game...

[emps]

What's 'pulling a cyrus' refer to?

pedit: I'm not voting the worst anymore!

with our newfound info that this is skygazer i kinda feel like they should know? because they modded that game where cyrus said he TRed me and then proceeded to keep his vote on me anyways

[bob3141]

VOTE: bob

This could tell us some things pretty easily I think.

But what would it tell you?

Feels to me you vote for me is for little little more than youmore than tehhe fact I voted for you. Due to you vote on worst that looked like a stretch as Worst was looking rather towny at that point.

A point you have since admitted in post 348

"I do agree that my scumread on wurst was a stretch"



Hey Sky nice to be playign with you again.

[emps]

@tw: Can you talk to me about how Ico shot so low for you?

poor associations with slots i'm not comfortable with
surface level looks like town meta, but when i try to go deeper he's not diving down with me
basically this is the right way for scum!ico to play if he rolls against town!me but it might also be town!ico : /

thinking back to e.g. echo bay grits SEO, he played very intentionally to circumvent my expectations of his scum meta and it kinda stuck with me like "ah! ico is indeed the type of person who would ask himself how to get me to townread him as scum" and so i approach the dragon warily until he strongly towntells

gamestate might be too early for him to earnestly towntell on his own, which is why he's not bottom tier and i'm not interested in wagoning him yet.


i also haven't read his retorts to my small case on him yet; i'll probably need to go through that again when i'm a bit less busy so i can think a bit harder about it

also, i think ico is acting similar to newbie 1942, but i didnt really have much time during early d1 so might not be accurate

[emps]

339 barely manages a reply to my case
343 is a game that proves the opposite of what osuka was saying about my reading the slot
347 correctly says that I usually try to get out of RVS rather quickly, but says it in a way that feels like trying to appeal to a slot that is pressuring osuka

which slot are they trying to appeal to?

[bob3141]

@Bella only the one game player garmr. And two played with elastic now that I know it's sky. < in regards to bit of post 416

First was a Mason game. second a scum game and game she replaced a scum player

[emps]

hm rereading this game is already fruitful

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

?

[emps]

@mod you put Skygazer as Elastic Plastic in the vc

VOTE: Skygazer

[bob3141]

Bella I dont get why you think my post 263 came of as self-conscious. Seems a bit odd. What actually makes you think that about it? Has it's a rather vague statement



I do find your timing of your vote on me a bit suspect. Seems very much like your sheeping Worst and Sky and looks a bit optimistic. As you had next to no reason backing your Vote just that self conscious short sentence. That looks very much like a throw away sentence.



At first I was 50/50 on now sky being scum or just making a bad read on worst. With the potential of luring a scum player out when they tried to sheep it. But could sky and bella vote could be a scum attempt to preemptively push a counter wagon against one of the players suspecting one of them of being scum.

I do feel that if sky flips scum then bella is highly likely scum as well.

[Skygazer]

Wait Ala was Bella??? I thought she was Ank!

[Skygazer]

@Elastic, i think garmr intended to be coy/prompt iconeum into producing alignment indicative content with this question
but in a vacuum his vote pinged somewhat opportunistic

combining those two factors, he tried to coyly interrogate iconeum while voting him which has the subtlety of "WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS, SCUM???"

i was going to meta check him to work out whether completely unsubtle interrogation was alignment indicative, and while i was internally waxing poetic i suppose i just felt like asking him to see if he was aware of it as a tell for himself.

i didn't bother in the end; net of all things i think it's kinda towny and his other posts have been towny

Okay I just read this, you're probably town lmfao.

wait, whats so townie about this?

Feels like a very townie thought process/explanation as to why he asked that garmr question. Also he used the phrase "waxing poetic" which I personally have never see scum use. Like idk if scum-tw can fake that kind of town-him thought process that easily.

[Skygazer]

What's 'pulling a cyrus' refer to?

pedit: I'm not voting the worst anymore!

with our newfound info that this is skygazer i kinda feel like they should know? because they modded that game where cyrus said he TRed me and then proceeded to keep his vote on me anyways

You can't think of any reasons as to why I wouldn't want to out that I knew what you were referring to? Like, for example, the fact that I was playing anonymously?

Never mind the fact that in a >200 page game, pulling a cyrus could refer to a lot of things and I'd bet you that tw probs didn't understand what exactly you were referring to until after your explanation, either.

[Skygazer]

But what would it tell you?

Wagons = info
Plus I feel like a lot of other players here have town-told in some manner or another so PoE means you're probably a good vote!

Feels to me you vote for me is for little little more than youmore than tehhe fact I voted for you. Due to you vote on worst that looked like a stretch as Worst was looking rather towny at that point.

A point you have since admitted in post 348

"I do agree that my scumread on wurst was a stretch"

I mean, I feel like a lot of what happens on D1 is based on logic stretches. I don't really have any reason to scumread anyone super strongly so naturally I'm going to have to stretch a little bit in the early game.

Hey Sky nice to be playign with you again.

Likewise!

[the worst]

What's 'pulling a cyrus' refer to?

pedit: I'm not voting the worst anymore!

with our newfound info that this is skygazer i kinda feel like they should know? because they modded that game where cyrus said he TRed me and then proceeded to keep his vote on me anyways

not gna defend/speak for Skyg but generally don't assume mods are as invested in the quirks and nuances of a game as players are; I didn't know what you meant either and read almost as much of that game as Skyg

[Garmr]

Sky gazer how do you feel about Blake Belladonna jumping onto the bob wagon despite calling both you and the worst scummy through out the game?