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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:20 pm

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VC 2.07Avengers (4): RCEnigma, mastina, Pink Ball, book kid
Menalque (3): Alchemist21, Flavor Leaf, Dr Easy Bake
MariaR (3): Menalque, Gamma Emerald, Jibril
Gamma Emerald (1): itlepip
RCEnigma (1): MariaR

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With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to reach a lynch. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-08-06 18:10:00).
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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 2459, mastina wrote:
In post 2114, Avengers wrote:@RCE, why are you so hellbent on killing us?
Uh.
Because even ignoring the probable identities of who's in the hydra, your posting's been scum from the onset?
And with the knowledge of meta on probable identities of who's in the hydra, that goes from "generic general guideline usage of scumhunting" to "actual well and true, proper, meta",
your posting's been scum meta from the onset.
Thank you RCE!

In post 2367, Avengers wrote:FYI, I have never been this sick in my entire mafia carreer,
so anyone who is alignment meta-reading me here - whether town or scum is absolutely full of shit
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I will be requoting this for anyone who attempts a bs metaread of any kind on me. Reads regarding my play here specifically or meta on other heads, otoh will be accepted.
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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:22 pm

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In post 2461, mastina wrote:
In post 2144, Menalque wrote:Why has hulk not posted?
What if.
Hulk is Creature.
And the reason for not posting is it's a scum hydra.
Sorry, wrong game. :lol:
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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:27 pm

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In post 2418, Skygazer wrote:
VC 2.06Avengers (4): RCEnigma, mastina, Pink Ball, book kid
Can I just say.

That my confidence level for this wagon being on scum.

Is increased by knowing that every player voting on it in this VC is town?

Half way to a lynch and yet there's no scum on that wagon.
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 2432, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Rce
We really need to flip this today.
Try to lynch RC and my last qualms about lynching you evaporate.
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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 2461, mastina wrote:
In post 2144, Menalque wrote:Why has hulk not posted?
What if.
Hulk is Creature.
And the reason for not posting is it's a scum hydra.
In post 2471, mastina wrote:
In post 2313, Menalque wrote:Where are you at on maria?
Could be scum but I'd rather go for the guaranteed scum in Avengers over the possible scum.
Explain how you went from “if” to “guaranteed” in a matter of seconds? Since I’m lying in bed and completely useless, I have plenty of time. :]
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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 2478, mastina wrote:
In post 2418, Skygazer wrote:
VC 2.06Avengers (4): RCEnigma, mastina, Pink Ball, book kid
Can I just say.

That my confidence level for this wagon being on scum.

Is increased by knowing that every player voting on it in this VC is town?

Half way to a lynch and yet there's no scum on that wagon.
So? I don’t understand your reasoning. Assuming you’re right, why couldn’t scum jump on us later?
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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 2454, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2032, Skygazer wrote:
VC 1.43Emperor flippyNips (9): Menalque, Katyusha, Alchemist21, Dr Easy Bake, itlepip, Avengers, book kid, RCEnigma, Pink Ball
Avengers (3): Flavor Leaf, Emperor flippyNips, mastina
RCEnigma (2): [hated], MariaR
MariaR (2): jibril, Gamma Emerald
jibril (1): [hated]
Chemist1422 (1): [hated]
Not Voting (2): Something_Smart, Chemist1422
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to reach a lynch. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-07-21 21:20:00).
So on the wagon there are 3 confirmed town in myself, Kat, book leaving (Menalque, Alch, Deb, itle, Avengers, PB)
Out of this pool scum likelihood is avengers/Menal/Alch/Deb/itle/PB. It's possible there are multiple scum ON wagon but more likely there are multiple scum OFF wagon.
Flippy is confirmed town Via flip and Mastina is town leaving FL, Maria, Gamma, Jibril, SS, Chemist.
Jibril is spewed town via oversouls replace out though I was reading town there beforehand. FL could be scum but I doubt it. It's also less important to catch FL as scum than his partners, FL will be tied to them on flips regardless.
Don't have strong reads on either non voter so Maria/Gamma/SS/Chemist is also a reasonable pool, all of which have some equity for scum.
This is actually close to my own analysis.

Katyusha, you, Pink Ball, and book kid are all pretty locktown; leaves probably 2 scum (could be as low as one or as high as three; I very sincerely doubt all four scum piled on to the mislynch) in {Menalque, Alchemist21, Dr Easy Bake, itlepip, Avengers}. Honestly I'd lynch any of those names though by gut I still feel like Menalque is less likely scum and generally don't feel strongly that itlepip would be scum (basically I think that the highest chance of finding scum is in the Alchemist/DEB/Avengers trio--I'll trust the townread on Alch tho to not focus on him as much).

Off the wagon, we know Avengers was all town but there's probably 2 scum (could be as low as one but probably not as high as three) in {MariaR, Gamma Emerald, Something_Smart, Chemist}.

In that pool of four, I'd rate them most scum to least scum in actually exactly that order, but I fully confess/admit that I don't really have good reads on any of them.

Basically I think that we have two pools; I'd most want to lynch in {Avengers > DEB > Alchemist21}, {MariaR > Gamma Emerald}.

I'm not sure those five contain the entire scumteam, but if I had to venture a scumteam guess right now, a scumteam composed among those five players would be my best educated guess.
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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 2458, Menalque wrote:
In post 2457, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2436, MariaR wrote: half this game is shit posting and not enjoyable.
You’re wrong.
qft
Wut?
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 2478, mastina wrote:
In post 2418, Skygazer wrote:
VC 2.06Avengers (4): RCEnigma, mastina, Pink Ball, book kid
Can I just say.

That my confidence level for this wagon being on scum.

Is increased by knowing that every player voting on it in this VC is town?

Half way to a lynch and yet there's no scum on that wagon.
Wdym you "know"? I understand the Mason thing with RCE but what about Ausuka and Pinky?
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 2479, mastina wrote:
In post 2432, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Rce
We really need to flip this today.
Try to lynch RC and my last qualms about lynching you evaporate.
Thank you for acknowledging you’re not RCE. You only respond to posts directed at him.
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:38 pm

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In post 2468, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2456, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2431, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2398, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2392, Flavor Leaf wrote:And even if I’m IC, he’s gonna call me scum.
Nah I would accept you as town if you were IC and mod-confirmed.
How are those not the same
I wasn’t saying they were different.
Why not say "mod-confirmed IC" then?
I don’t know.
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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 2486, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2468, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2456, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2431, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2398, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2392, Flavor Leaf wrote:And even if I’m IC, he’s gonna call me scum.
Nah I would accept you as town if you were IC and mod-confirmed.
How are those not the same
I wasn’t saying they were different.
Why not say "mod-confirmed IC" then?
I don’t know.
I wish you did because the way you wrote it was confusing but I'll deal
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 2476, Avengers wrote:
In post 2367, Avengers wrote:FYI, I have never been this sick in my entire mafia carreer,
so anyone who is alignment meta-reading me here - whether town or scum is absolutely full of shit
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The thing is you're scum for reasons that "I've been sick" do not justify. Being sick here may justify some aspects--but not the aspects I'm actually scumreading you for.
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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:42 pm

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QFT = quoted for truth @deb
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:43 pm

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Mastina I think I broadly agree with what you just wrote apart from I still don’t really think avengers is scum/want to lynch there today
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:44 pm

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I'm voting gamma because I think he is more likely to be scum?

Also, I assumed that Mastina is not a real mason because memes, but if that is real that dramatically changes my reads.
Predictable, really I suppose. It was an act of purest optimism to have posed the question in the first place.

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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 2480, Avengers wrote:
In post 2461, mastina wrote:
In post 2144, Menalque wrote:Why has hulk not posted?
What if.
Hulk is Creature.
And the reason for not posting is it's a scum hydra.
In post 2471, mastina wrote:
In post 2313, Menalque wrote:Where are you at on maria?
Could be scum but I'd rather go for the guaranteed scum in Avengers over the possible scum.
Explain how you went from “if” to “guaranteed” in a matter of seconds? Since I’m lying in bed and completely useless, I have plenty of time. :]
The answer for this is so tremendously stupidly obvious I'm not even going to bother giving it.
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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 2484, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2478, mastina wrote:
In post 2418, Skygazer wrote:
VC 2.06Avengers (4): RCEnigma, mastina, Pink Ball, book kid
Can I just say.

That my confidence level for this wagon being on scum.

Is increased by knowing that every player voting on it in this VC is town?

Half way to a lynch and yet there's no scum on that wagon.
Wdym you "know"? I understand the Mason thing with RCE but what about Ausuka and Pinky?
PB has been bleeding obvtown since the beginning. Not alignment based but I thought Ausuka’s. specific reason for voting my slot was lazy. So, I don’t think Ausuka should be considered anywhere as obvtown as PB but probably a tl for me at this point.

I can towncase PB for you, if you’re interested. I’m just too dizzy to do it rn.
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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:46 pm

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In post 2492, mastina wrote:
In post 2480, Avengers wrote:
In post 2461, mastina wrote:
In post 2144, Menalque wrote:Why has hulk not posted?
What if.
Hulk is Creature.
And the reason for not posting is it's a scum hydra.
In post 2471, mastina wrote:
In post 2313, Menalque wrote:Where are you at on maria?
Could be scum but I'd rather go for the guaranteed scum in Avengers over the possible scum.
Explain how you went from “if” to “guaranteed” in a matter of seconds? Since I’m lying in bed and completely useless, I have plenty of time. :]
The answer for this is so tremendously stupidly obvious I'm not even going to bother giving it.
I’ve had an ongoing lowgrade fever for the last two goddamned weeks, so fucking humour me, why don’t you?
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:47 pm

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I don't object to the read on PB but the certainty. Ausuka though I don't feel like is anywhere close
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:50 pm

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In post 2484, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wdym you "know"? I understand the Mason thing with RCE but what about Ausuka and Pinky?
If you're scumreading Pink Ball this game you're either scum or just outright unfamiliar with him because he's as obvtown as obvtown gets this game.

Ausuka I think also looks town but I admit this is mostly a sheeping-my-townreads read.
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 2487, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2486, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2468, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2456, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2431, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2398, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 2392, Flavor Leaf wrote:And even if I’m IC, he’s gonna call me scum.
Nah I would accept you as town if you were IC and mod-confirmed.
How are those not the same
I wasn’t saying they were different.
Why not say "mod-confirmed IC" then?
I don’t know.
I wish you did because the way you wrote it was confusing but I'll deal
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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 2495, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't object to the read on PB but the certainty. Ausuka though I don't feel like is anywhere close
I’m too sick to do it now but just read his earliest posts. He did something kind of similar in GS. Those early posts make no sense if PB is scum here.
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:53 pm

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In post 2494, Avengers wrote:I’ve had an ongoing lowgrade fever for the last two goddamned weeks, so fucking humour me, why don’t you?
So this response had a different meaning, but I think it's apt to give you here:
In post 2488, mastina wrote:
In post 2476, Avengers wrote:
In post 2367, Avengers wrote:FYI, I have never been this sick in my entire mafia carreer,
so anyone who is alignment meta-reading me here - whether town or scum is absolutely full of shit
.
The thing is you're scum for reasons that "I've been sick" do not justify. Being sick here may justify some aspects--but not the aspects I'm actually scumreading you for.
I realize you're fucking sick.
It doesn't mean I am going to let you get away with "I'm sick" as an excuse for literally everything you're doing.
So:
No.

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