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the worst (2):osuka, Iconeum
Arcfield (2):the worst, tn5421
Garmr (2):Blake Belladonna, Skygazer
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with 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 1 ends august 5th at 17:20 central US time; in (expired on 2019-08-05 17:20:00)
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I guess the Sun point might be valid? I really don't care to judge your opinion I just wanted it backed upIn post 772, Garmr wrote:Ruby (despite being a blank slate), Yang and Weiss are better characters. Also I don't like how she treats my fave character Sun.
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welp now its time for me to read the garmr case."I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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im honestly not sure on this rn. ill think about it for a bit."I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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blake how would your reads change if garmr flips town?
garmr how would yours change if blake flips town?"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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for blake this is mainly about bob, and garmr is about skyg"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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I think the difference is mines more about the counterwagon that is bob and the interaction between the three. (I dont believe they are all scum togther just 1 or 2.). Her beef with me is that she's trying to connect me with Bob and saying that connection is scummy as her individual points fall flat.In post 780, emps wrote:for blake this is mainly about bob, and garmr is about skygWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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If she's town then Id relook at SkyGazer and Tw. Through I think there's less chance of Tw and Sky being Scum partners.In post 779, emps wrote:blake how would your reads change if garmr flips town?
garmr how would yours change if blake flips town?While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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There's 2 major reasons I'm having trouble believing that she is town.
1.If I'm going to be honest I can see how someone can get to the conclusion me and Bob could be scum partners because we have similar reads, but she tries to over justify it and adds in reasoning that doesn't make sense under scrutiny. I felt that is done to try and make a case sound stronger than it already
2.Her individual points about me being scum suck really bad. Since her reasoning to why I would be scum with out bob Doesn't fit when put into context, not relevant to what I posted at parts and even fabricated. It shows that her conclusion at best was worked from me and Bob being scum partners. But that doesn't make sense from a town Blake. I was on her scum list before any of her points bob and I. Nothing she said needed to be held back as well thus meaning she was also buying to time to try and justify her read which shows she didn't get it naturally.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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In post 772, Garmr wrote:Ruby (despite being a blank slate), Yang and Weiss are better characters. Also I don't like how she treats my fave character Sun.
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Im finding it highly likely that sky and bella are of the same alignment. There voting patterns do appear a little coordinated. And their actions do appear heavily influenced by the other. I can only see two possibilities with their alignments so far. One that they are both scum or two that they are both town.
My instincts are saying to me that it's most likely the first possibility. This very much reminds me of how sky and rooster often followed each other in the last game with her. Whether it was them voting together to lynch or voting together in order to bus and create distance themselves and their 3rd partner (for reference me).
Also it makes sense why they might target garmr early as by his own admission he isn’t a player to let go easily. Thus it looks to me they are trying to get a player lynched that they think will never vote with them. Therefore, they would not be able to use him to lynch the rest of us.
The second possibility that is possible but I feel less likely. Is that they are both town and have both found a player they are pretty sure is town. And are feeding of each others scum reads. Thus producing the same effect that my instincts are telling me. Of two crocodiles closing in on a wildebeest. Coming in from different directions but nonetheless eerily similar.
Although sky certainly a player that is afraid to bus and in fact rather keen. I don't think that sky and bella push on garmr could be an early bus to trick us into thinking they are both town. Thus being able to lead us around like sheep. As I think that sky is player that thinks day one bussing is overrated.
So my next conditions for how i think the game is going down are
Sky and bella are same alignment
If garmr is town then sky and bella are scum
If garmr is scum then sky and bella are more likely town then scum-
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While I think Sky and Bella have a pretty good chance of being scum together I disagree that they have to be the same alignment. With one being scum the other could be town that's been pocketed.In post 785, bob3141 wrote:
Sky and bella are same alignment
If garmr is town then sky and bella are scum
If garmr is scum then sky and bella are more likely town then scumWhile being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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this is untrue. ive seen this done before by s/t where the town is more scumread then they are, and once they get mislynched they can "i told you so" to endgame.In post 785, bob3141 wrote:Im finding it highly likely that sky and bella are of the same alignment. There voting patterns do appear a little coordinated. And their actions do appear heavily influenced by the other. I can only see two possibilities with their alignments so far. One that they are both scum or two that they are both town.
My instincts are saying to me that it's most likely the first possibility. This very much reminds me of how sky and rooster often followed each other in the last game with her. Whether it was them voting together to lynch or voting together in order to bus and create distance themselves and their 3rd partner (for reference me).
Also it makes sense why they might target garmr early as by his own admission he isn’t a player to let go easily. Thus it looks to me they are trying to get a player lynched that they think will never vote with them. Therefore, they would not be able to use him to lynch the rest of us.
The second possibility that is possible but I feel less likely. Is that they are both town and have both found a player they are pretty sure is town. And are feeding of each others scum reads. Thus producing the same effect that my instincts are telling me. Of two crocodiles closing in on a wildebeest. Coming in from different directions but nonetheless eerily similar.
Although sky certainly a player that is afraid to bus and in fact rather keen. I don't think that sky and bella push on garmr could be an early bus to trick us into thinking they are both town. Thus being able to lead us around like sheep. As I think that sky is player that thinks day one bussing is overrated.
So my next conditions for how i think the game is going down are
Sky and bella are same alignment
If garmr is town then sky and bella are scum
If garmr is scum then sky and bella are more likely town then scum"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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There are several issues with this analysis the most major problem is how you referenced a prior game and used it to reach a bad conclusion. The fact that sky and bella have sheeped in the past doesn't mean town/town or scum/scum just that they are likely to sheep each other/trust each other. Also just because one player finds another player scum and the other agrees, doesn't mean garmr is scum. The two could just be feeding of each others reads unconciously shaping their perceptions. Especially since they have a history together which is going to exacerbate that effect.In post 785, bob3141 wrote:Im finding it highly likely that sky and bella are of the same alignment. There voting patterns do appear a little coordinated. And their actions do appear heavily influenced by the other. I can only see two possibilities with their alignments so far. One that they are both scum or two that they are both town.
My instincts are saying to me that it's most likely the first possibility. This very much reminds me of how sky and rooster often followed each other in the last game with her. Whether it was them voting together to lynch or voting together in order to bus and create distance themselves and their 3rd partner (for reference me).
Also it makes sense why they might target garmr early as by his own admission he isn’t a player to let go easily. Thus it looks to me they are trying to get a player lynched that they think will never vote with them. Therefore, they would not be able to use him to lynch the rest of us.
The second possibility that is possible but I feel less likely. Is that they are both town and have both found a player they are pretty sure is town. And are feeding of each others scum reads. Thus producing the same effect that my instincts are telling me. Of two crocodiles closing in on a wildebeest. Coming in from different directions but nonetheless eerily similar.
Although sky certainly a player that is afraid to bus and in fact rather keen. I don't think that sky and bella push on garmr could be an early bus to trick us into thinking they are both town. Thus being able to lead us around like sheep. As I think that sky is player that thinks day one bussing is overrated.
So my next conditions for how i think the game is going down are
Sky and bella are same alignment
If garmr is town then sky and bella are scum
If garmr is scum then sky and bella are more likely town then scum
In essence this should mean essentially nothing. We can't get Sky/Blake town/town or Scum/Scum unless we know more inner workings of how their behavior around each other is more indepth
My initial thoughts of this post were that it was from a scum point of view also. I am not certain of that anymore, the way it was written in the persumption of how sky/blake would have to be figuring out what to do with garmr was so presumptious that it kind of made me think there was a false confidence in going down that train of thought that far into this supposed insight into how the players would be thinking. A confidence and thought process that I thought shouldn't have been gone down.
Now I am uncertain.
Which is just great, because I still have no strong pushes go with.Nothing is true, everything is permitted
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My initial thoughts on Blake case is: Bad.
Garmr rebuttal: Worse than bad (my thought went, shouldn't you be thinking Blake is scum for that bad post? And I never read that anywhere in garmrs response to it. Maybe I didn't read very well).Nothing is true, everything is permitted
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This might be a very accurate description of garmrs posting than I originally thought.In post 760, Blake Belladonna wrote:This has no oomph behind it, it's worded and toned in a more political way than a pressuring way.Nothing is true, everything is permitted
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I have been waiting for a test, but you have yet to give me a test. So where exactly do you think you made me work for a town read?In post 768, Garmr wrote:I actually made firebringer work for that town read by testing him which you seem to conveniently forgot to factor in.Nothing is true, everything is permitted
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fireass, what are your thoughts on osuka? why are they not a "strong push" to you?"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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maybe the whole voting me was a test? but i think ur reaction/reply to that was NAI..."I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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you didnt really have a case, and if you gave your read on osuka i missed it. i was referring to this, and seeing as osuka is my strongest SR rn i wanted ur stance on it.In post 789, Fire Assassin wrote:Which is just great, because I still have no strong pushes go with."I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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Guess you didn't read everything I even included a conclusion and wrap up to show what I thought....In post 790, Fire Assassin wrote:My initial thoughts on Blake case is: Bad.
Garmr rebuttal: Worse than bad (my thought went, shouldn't you be thinking Blake is scum for that bad post? And I never read that anywhere in garmrs response to it. Maybe I didn't read very well).
Conclusion and wrap up
Besides one post in early game which was easily tossed aside the bulk of her case focused my posts after calling her out for shade, thus proving she had no reason to hold but to try and scrap together a case.
As we can see the result from her post is it feels rushed, Points don't link up to what she has quoted. She has avoided the hard questions by saying they are scummy and refusing to answer despite them being vital. She says I don't try to fill in the gaps but hasn't provided anything to actually fill them when I try to fill them in. That has be shown to be on purpose.
A lot of her points revolve around scum hunting style and trying to portray how weak my push neglecting the fact she hasn't even answered a single thing. Her entire Post is all show boating and no substance when looked into to.
I'm looking forward to Blakes response. If they don't go hiding again.
Is another post.In post 783, Garmr wrote:There's 2 major reasons I'm having trouble believing that she is town.
1.If I'm going to be honest I can see how someone can get to the conclusion me and Bob could be scum partners because we have similar reads, but she tries to over justify it and adds in reasoning that doesn't make sense under scrutiny. I felt that is done to try and make a case sound stronger than it already
2.Her individual points about me being scum suck really bad. Since her reasoning to why I would be scum with out bob Doesn't fit when put into context, not relevant to what I posted at parts and even fabricated. It shows that her conclusion at best was worked from me and Bob being scum partners. But that doesn't make sense from a town Blake. I was on her scum list before any of her points bob and I. Nothing she said needed to be held back as well thus meaning she was also buying to time to try and justify her read which shows she didn't get it naturally.While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)-
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