Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[kuribo]

I don't necessarily think he's faking it, just because I feel Grey would potentially do so for funsies


Even if he was, it's not alignment indicative anyway

[Pine]

Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc

... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?

I think...I dunno. It's probably NAI? Gimmick-y gameplay happens as any alignment. When Aeronaut and I made Caesar Wills It before Civ mafia, we decided to do it before roles and alignments were randed.

Strictly speaking, I think it means Grey decided to dick around, no more, no less. Functionally, it makes him almost impossible to fairly read, and makes questioning or refuting him frustratingly difficult.

[Pine]

kuribo, I should charge you rent if you're going to be camping out in my head like this

[kuribo]

kuribo, I should charge you rent if you're going to be camping out in my head like this

Throw some sand down and An ocean and I'd never leave

[kuribo]

If he chose to do this, I actually find that hilarious because it's not like he could just stop and not get shit for lying

If this wasn't a real restriction, he's gonna have to keep it up for weeeeeeeks

[Gamma Emerald]

B) His alleged post restriction is incompatible with the real inflicted one we’ve seen given out

How
Also don't get A but that's probably me being ignorant

[Pine]

If he chose to do this, I actually find that hilarious because it's not like he could just stop and not get shit for lying

If this wasn't a real restriction, he's gonna have to keep it up for weeeeeeeks

Actually, I've seen people stop fake restrictions and not have it held against them. Personally, I'd give him a pass on it and be happy to have a GreyICE I could have a real conversation with. He'd be an asset in a game like this.

Gimmicks are fun, and I think people get that. I just think it's wildly counterproductive here.

[Katsuki]

I want to townread Alisae, but the deathtunneling of Pine (evident in 146) just makes me want to disagree with townreading Alisae.

Same applies to GreyICE, the post restriction sucks when it comes to scumcasing (evident in 217) but I still have to take the case with a crystal of salt

Katsuki is strange, but if I had to give a read, I'd say null!scumlean with 200 being the worst post (though I think it could be a meme)

230 at least looks good from a distance...

I agree with 222's sentiment, but that probably isn't a town-AI post

pedit: lurkers are probably not where the town is

GOD BLESS 2019
WHEN SOMEONE CAN TRY TO CALL OUT A POST DETAILING THEM AS SCUM A MEME
SEE GI #216

[Katsuki]

It's bizarre as hell that Pine gets called out for zero scum hunting in a game that's basically been "Pine is scum, here's some pictures, send me a key, don't ask what keys everyone needs, oh shit there's a black key"

YA BUT THATS PROBABLY NOT HTE MOST IMPORTANT DETAIL TO WHY PINES SCUM ANYWAYS

[Katsuki]

PINE CAN YOU JUST BE NICE AND CLAIM SCUM FOR US SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THIS GAME

IM A PINE LYNCHER WHO MUST LYNCH HIM BEFORE WE HIT 57 TO WIN THEN I CAN EXIT THIS GAME IN PEACE

[Pine]

B) His alleged post restriction is incompatible with the real inflicted one we’ve seen given out

How
Also don't get A but that's probably me being ignorant

Limericks have a defined meter which he's not following very closely. Without going through them with a fine-toothed comb, I'd ballpark about 1/3 of them as technically not limericks.

Is it possible that LLD is giving him a pass for best effort? Maybe. Likely, in a game like this where she's gleefully punishing petty infractions? Nah.

As for B), how exactly is he supposed to make a limerick with imgs and gifs? If GreyICE's slot had randed that event (or really any future PR) they would be incompatible at a design level.

PE: At this point, I'm beginning to suspect that Katsuki is a some sort of Lyncher variety.
PE2 HA GOT IT

[Katsuki]

SUP PINE

[Pine]

Hai Kats

I was getting all pissy because I was taking it personally, but I get it now. You do you, Cupcake <3

[Gamma Emerald]

Like how is your reaction to me and kuribo discussing scum posting frequencies "OMG DONT PICK SCUM ITS SIMPLE!!!111"

Do you think a player in CYS
Wanting to do their very best
Then picks scum
For the freedom
To post nothing at all as a jest?

So you are saying because of the CYS mechanic scum would lurk less?

[Katsuki]

BTW ITS TIME FOR A FULL CLAIM

WE NEED TO LYNCH PINE WITH THE BLACK KEY AND NOT GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PASS IT OFF TO ANY ONE

THE CONDITIONS FOR THE KEY ARE THAT, HE MUST SURROUND THE TARGET'S POST WITH HIS OWN

I AGREE ENTIRELY WITH HEBI THAT HIS REACTION TO THE BLACK KEY WAS SCUMMY AF AND THUS HE SHOULD BE BURIED WITH IT

[Pine]

I think because of the playerlist scum would lurk less

PE: I actually already passed off the black key.

[Katsuki]

Hai Kats

I was getting all pissy because I was taking it personally, but I get it now. You do you, Cupcake <3

Can't blame you, I'd be pissy too if I picked scum and got lynched due to a combination of being inclined to be scum in the first place and scummy play.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc

... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?

It's incredibly clear what Pine makes of it?
VOTE: Plum

[Katsuki]

OH I LEFT OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT DETAIL IN THAT WHOEVER HAS THE BLACK KEY LOSES THE GAME

SO UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO BE THAT PERSON WHO LOSES, YOU GUYS CAN JUST CUT DOWN PINE THE HOLDER OF THE BLACK KEY

HEBI/SKY CAN PROBABLY BACK ME UP ON THIS

[Gamma Emerald]

The lurkaderp rule, which is as close to ironclad as any tactic I've ever put forth is that there's always at least one scum in the bottom three or four posters. The corollary is that there's usually another scum in the top three or four.

I've worked on that thought over a number of years, most scum teams have a workhorse.

I agree with this sentiment, this is the template for most games

Are you two scumfucks insane
Perhaps you are missing a brain?
Lurk from demotivation
In a CYS formation
Don't pick scum! Problem solved, no shame

I didn't say they're lurking from demotivation, some people more passively play scum or let more experienced partners take the point. And I forgot it was CYS.

Calm yoself the fuck down
Make a smile out of your frown
Post restrictions suck
I get that you're stuck
Something something verb noun

I'm bad at limericks

This actually mentions something I already wanted to say, that even if they are gonna lurk less it's still likely that there's going to be one dominant scum and the others would step back

[kuribo]

BTW ITS TIME FOR A FULL CLAIM

WE NEED TO LYNCH PINE WITH THE BLACK KEY AND NOT GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PASS IT OFF TO ANY ONE

THE CONDITIONS FOR THE KEY ARE THAT, HE MUST SURROUND THE TARGET'S POST WITH HIS OWN

I AGREE ENTIRELY WITH HEBI THAT HIS REACTION TO THE BLACK KEY WAS SCUMMY AF AND THUS HE SHOULD BE BURIED WITH IT

All keys as far as I can tell can be willed to others tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc

... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?

I think...I dunno. It's probably NAI? Gimmick-y gameplay happens as any alignment. When Aeronaut and I made Caesar Wills It before Civ mafia, we decided to do it before roles and alignments were randed.

Strictly speaking, I think it means Grey decided to dick around, no more, no less. Functionally, it makes him almost impossible to fairly read, and makes questioning or refuting him frustratingly difficult.

I thought you thought it was scummy?

[Katsuki]

BTW ITS TIME FOR A FULL CLAIM

WE NEED TO LYNCH PINE WITH THE BLACK KEY AND NOT GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PASS IT OFF TO ANY ONE

THE CONDITIONS FOR THE KEY ARE THAT, HE MUST SURROUND THE TARGET'S POST WITH HIS OWN

I AGREE ENTIRELY WITH HEBI THAT HIS REACTION TO THE BLACK KEY WAS SCUMMY AF AND THUS HE SHOULD BE BURIED WITH IT

All keys as far as I can tell can be willed to others tho

SOMEONE ELSE CAN CLAIM HOW THIS KEY GETS PASSED ON

POWERLYNCHING PINE BEFORE HE CAN PASS IT OFF WOULD BE THE WISEST COURSE OF ACTION BUT IDC IM NOT GETTING THE KEY BACK

[Plum]

Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc

... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?

It's incredibly clear what Pine makes of it?
VOTE: Plum

Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc

... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?

I think...I dunno. It's probably NAI? Gimmick-y gameplay happens as any alignment. When Aeronaut and I made Caesar Wills It before Civ mafia, we decided to do it before roles and alignments were randed.

Strictly speaking, I think it means Grey decided to dick around, no more, no less. Functionally, it makes him almost impossible to fairly read, and makes questioning or refuting him frustratingly difficult.

I thought you thought it was scummy?

So yeah, actually no I didn't know what side of scummy vs. NAI Pine was going to come down on. And I didn't want to just let it hang so he could teehee at his leisure.

[Gamma Emerald]

WE NEED TO LYNCH PINE WITH THE BLACK KEY AND NOT GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PASS IT OFF TO ANY ONE

RULES SAY KEYS GET WILLED AWAY ON DEATH, UNLESS THE BLACK KEY WORKS DIFFERENTLY
See, I can get loud too.