BTE: Boon Wars - Revenge of the Jingle

[Nute Krazy]

VOTE: Irrelph Organa
Seemed to know that none of the D2 wagons was on scum.
Was pushing really hard on flavor being AI.
Too cavalier an attitude toward townreads.

[Vorkuta]

Maaaan
If only this didn't come from separatist scum

[Shirobacca]

VOTE: RCE

I'm okay with this for the moment

[Padme Almostdala]

Obi / RCE / DEB - 1 scum in there, courtesy of how the palpatine wagon took off.

Did DEB do anything useful other than defending himself with like 20 posts and then not posting anything or have I forgotten his posts already

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

The Worst joins Handsome He’s.

Well, that confirms Padme. The worst is always scum.

[Padme Almostdala]

Nute, Ki, DarthTy, Arist2d2, Irrelph, Shiro - probably town

whoever's not in there, welcome in the PoE

Oh hi Obi, talk to me about how you have DEB as top town seeing how he doesn't give a shit about town lynches

[Padme Almostdala]

Why push for killing an absent slot instead of requesting replacement

Because the rules forbid you from doing so.

[Padme Almostdala]

On the flip side, DEB's soft defense of me in #750 is +town equity, scum had no need to defend me.

A really solid defence, yes. I wonder if he would've gone afk on your lynch as well.

Scum benefits from calling an AWOL slot town without having to defend them because when you get pmed or whatever that you have to venge someone because you've been lynched, you'll see posts like that and shoot your pushers instead.

[Padme Almostdala]

DEB is like that really old grandfather that sits at the family dinner and from time to time he wakes up and tells you a joke from his early days and then proceeds to fall back asleep, that's the level of impact he's had overall.

[Arist2D2]

Maaaan
If only this didn't come from separatist scum

Hmm, I wonder what this means? Can you please explain? You don't need to out your main, just answer on Vorkuta.

[Arist2D2]

I wonder if mains have access to the scum PT?

[Padme Almostdala]

As for Irrelph, I don't think that's how scum manages his pushes. I also like his push on DEB, but for different reasons.

Just because a slot that didn't do anything has flipped scum, it doesn't mean that all lurking players / the players that put in the minimum effort will also be more likely to flip scum.

Look for people that pretend to do stuff while not doing anything that has impact.

I believe in my town core, I have mixed feelings on Irrelph, sure, I'm not sure if I'll actively defend against his lynch to be honest.

[Arist2D2]

Were they the person who was trying to put a lot of stock on flavor? That's probably why

How is this towny though? Their thoughts make no sense, multiple people pointed out the issues in their case and they didn't care, and now they're continuing to push that read into d3, DESPITE FG flipping town directly contradicting their narrative. And they've been using that, alone, to justify pushes on DEB and to hop on the FG wagon.

Opposite reason. Scum puts more effort in a read than this

Too dumb to be scum
I think they genuinely believe it which is hilarious but also not scummy

Too dumb to be scum isn't a thing. Your implication seems to be all scum put in effort, which is confusing. Do you think Palpatine put effort into this game? They didn't. They're not interested so are just BSing their way through with an awful flavour slot. Like, I don't know how to convince you that you're looking at this game from a completely wrong angle, but the slot's just scum.

We can lynch RCE today but I want to establish that Irrelph never makes it to endgame because they're scum and townies are still defending them.

Lol how is Irrelph not pretending to do something?

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

Oh hi Obi, talk to me about how you have DEB as top town seeing how he doesn't give a shit about town lynches

#750 gave me a good feeling about them, I then scanned their iso and found it to be consistent with this initial feeling. On your latter point, I haven't noticed that to be the case. Where have they done this?
Also, the town parts of my read list are not ordered.

[Padme Almostdala]

There's a world where Irrelph is scum and he was active during my lynch not to push for a counterwagon and express how town I am, but to make me shoot Nute by pointing scummy things about him. Sure.

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

On the flip side, DEB's soft defense of me in #750 is +town equity, scum had no need to defend me.

A really solid defence, yes. I wonder if he would've gone afk on your lynch as well.

Scum benefits from calling an AWOL slot town without having to defend them because when you get pmed or whatever that you have to venge someone because you've been lynched, you'll see posts like that and shoot your pushers instead.

This is a fair point.

[Padme Almostdala]

I get your frustration, Arist. But you have 3 non-voters on the wagon, 4 if someone doubts my alignment still.

I want to get off-wagon scum first and then look for bussers.

[Arist2D2]

The argument seems to be he's too scummy to be scum. That isn't a thing. His play is really scummy and unbelievable to come from town, including pushing an utterly nonsensical argument and scumslipping and not getting called out. That doesn't mean he loops back around to being town. He's just scum this game. I don't always have the best reads but when I'm this sure I'm almost never wrong. My partner is with me on this too.

We don't need to categorize scum on bussing or not, scum is scum and Irrelph is that.

[Arist2D2]

Sorry if I sound fustrated, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little bit that's just cos I get emotional waay too easily. You guys are doing nothing wrong, except townreading scum but everyone is wrong sometimes

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

Were they the person who was trying to put a lot of stock on flavor? That's probably why

How is this towny though? Their thoughts make no sense, multiple people pointed out the issues in their case and they didn't care, and now they're continuing to push that read into d3, DESPITE FG flipping town directly contradicting their narrative. And they've been using that, alone, to justify pushes on DEB and to hop on the FG wagon.

Opposite reason. Scum puts more effort in a read than this

Too dumb to be scum
I think they genuinely believe it which is hilarious but also not scummy

Too dumb to be scum isn't a thing. Your implication seems to be all scum put in effort, which is confusing. Do you think Palpatine put effort into this game? They didn't. They're not interested so are just BSing their way through with an awful flavour slot. Like, I don't know how to convince you that you're looking at this game from a completely wrong angle, but the slot's just scum.

We can lynch RCE today but I want to establish that Irrelph never makes it to endgame because they're scum and townies are still defending them.

Lol how is Irrelph not pretending to do something?

I don't expect either will. I'm pretty confident on RCE. (I think) I know who they are, and this is scum-them.

[Padme Almostdala]

How many scum are there btw, 4? That would change my perception of the game.

[Arist2D2]

To make it more intelligible, I don’t see the reasoning of the read that strong that you use it to “clear” your partner. If a scum is going to clear a partner, it’s made in other ways, not like that. Not with a “case” like that.

On the other hand, if you are looking to get the credit after the flip, you post something like he did.

Hope you understand what I mean.

I understand what you're saying to some degree but it doesn't make any sense. Scum can throw out awful townleans on their partners and often do because nullreading is seen as associative and they often do. They don't need some case to do that when they're posting a readslist for sure.

Pedit: RCEPO's identity is confirmed literally and yes they're scum this game. I hope you're right.

Yeah there's 4? This is 17p so why wouldn't it be?

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

I'm expecting 4.

P-ed: oh, is it? I wasn't aware.

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

It's 15p. But Boon has been putting 4 scum in all his 15ps lately, so still 4.

[Arist2D2]

Hey Padme, I'm looking at Annie's ISO and don't get how you think it points to DEB?

Yeah it's 15p lol I have a bad memory sometimes. It's most likely 4 by a lot based on reads but it could be 3 possibly IF the inactive power is awful.