Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

kuribo · Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:47 am

In post 474, MariaR wrote:
In post 473, hebichan wrote:
In post 471, MariaR wrote:
In post 466, hebichan wrote:If you think it's filler to discuss set up when lynching isn't even our wincon, why are you here?
I'm not one who enjoys talk on mech. I like mechs itself but talking about it is pretty bland on my end. When I saw what the town wincon was I knew I'd have to change my style of play or I wouldn't get a key. So, I figured the best way to do that would be to lynch scumreads until I find enough town to hand the keys off too. I've been reading the whole thread but I have not much I want to say. If you have questions feel free to toss them my way.
Sure, where are your scumreads past pine?
TL and Kuriibo in that order.

You're lucky I try not to argue with scum anymore

hebichan · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:48 am

Why are you scumreading kuribo?

See interesting discourse already.

ISO · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:49 am

I'll provide a lead rist soon

ISO · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:55 am

Wait, is hebi not a lyncher?

MariaR · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:55 am

In post 475, kuribo wrote:
In post 474, MariaR wrote:
In post 473, hebichan wrote:
In post 471, MariaR wrote:
In post 466, hebichan wrote:If you think it's filler to discuss set up when lynching isn't even our wincon, why are you here?
I'm not one who enjoys talk on mech. I like mechs itself but talking about it is pretty bland on my end. When I saw what the town wincon was I knew I'd have to change my style of play or I wouldn't get a key. So, I figured the best way to do that would be to lynch scumreads until I find enough town to hand the keys off too. I've been reading the whole thread but I have not much I want to say. If you have questions feel free to toss them my way.
Sure, where are your scumreads past pine?
TL and Kuriibo in that order.
You're lucky I try not to argue with scum anymore

Good for you?

In post 476, hebichan wrote:Why are you scumreading kuribo?

See interesting discourse already.

I've seen his town game and it was blatantly obvious very quickly. This isn't it. His posting doesn't show any real hints of solving or thought progression. I see gaps. He just got to point A to point B randomly. I think he's shading slots and just playing set up. It's bad

ISO · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:00 am

In post 478, Skygazer wrote:Wait, is hebi not a lyncher?

when did "hebi could possibly theoretically potentially be a lyncher I think" ever come up?

GreyICE · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:01 am

MariaR's reasoning is oddly compelling
Kuribo's thoughts he is not telling
but on this page
this game's age
is only 72 hours, so he's not yelling

ISO · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:01 am

my bad; I got hebi and katsuki mixed up somehow

ISO · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:02 am

katsuki really makes me paranoid...

everything can't be decided by powerlynching, that's not how town works

kuribo · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:05 am

In post 481, GreyICE wrote:MariaR's reasoning is oddly compelling
Kuribo's thoughts he is not telling
but on this page
this game's age
is only 72 hours, so he's not yelling

I have nothing to gain by yelling, except yet another ban

ISO · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:05 am

In post 482, Skygazer wrote:my bad; I got hebi and katsuki mixed up somehow

I honestly think katsuki is just scum

kuribo · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:06 am

I mean I could just claim but where's the fun in that?

hebichan · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:20 am

I don't really think there's anything to gain by claiming this early, there isn't much pressure yet. Least for kuribo.

GreyICE · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:34 am

In post 483, TemporalLich wrote:katsuki really makes me paranoid...

everything can't be decided by powerlynching, that's not how town works

In post 203, Alisae wrote:

Katsuki · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:40 am

In post 483, TemporalLich wrote:katsuki really makes me paranoid...

everything can't be decided by powerlynching, that's not how town works

I'd love to point you to Fate's Mafia, a 12(or 13 I forget) player game we won in 3 hours of real life game play, and Psychic Mafia, also a mini that town stomped in 1.5days of game play.

POWERLYNCHING IS THE ONE TRUE PATH TO OPTIMAL TOWNPLAY

Katsuki · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:42 am

That pg2 Vezok scumlynch in a 25p large theme was also glorious.

hebichan · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:44 am

Yeah, except in this case powerlynching under 6 people feels like it would trigger a mod event.

Not saying powerlynching katsuki isn't powerful cupcake, just we need to keep in mind bastard game with weird windows.

Katsuki · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:52 am

I don't think we'll be able to powerlynch to under 6 people.

Katsuki · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:52 am

I may be wrong but we'll see.

hebichan · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:54 am

you think something will stop us?

My math says if scum gets a kill every lynch if scums around, we have 3 safe lynches and the 4th brings us below the threshold, 5 bringing us to 3 people.

Plum · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:21 pm

In post 454, hebichan wrote:Even that is a bit fishy given literally no one has shaded GE all game.

Sure, sure, still can lean alignment indicative (at the very least it semi-locks her into having to claim information later).

In post 478, Skygazer wrote:Wait, is hebi not a lyncher?

If I had a powerlynch vote, it would be here by the way.

Short version of what do re powerlynching, well, we can't right now. We don't know what happens if we power-Townblock Key vote, but it seems likely that we'll get some public opinion-interaction mechanic after a hammer, just like we got this Green Key giveaway after lynching with time left on the clock. I don't think we

need

to rush it but it shouldn't be an inherent negative for the Town to commit this early (remember, Madame is definitely pro on contributing and moving the game forward in its limited time frame - I doubt she'd reward us for dragging our feet). In some ways it's more valuable to vote someone to get a key than to lynch - it won't reset the scum kill cooldown, and it's not like we get less flip information out of hammering the Key giveaway than we would hammering a lynch. Unless I missed something, we're at 6 votes on Hebi-chan out of 7. I think anyone who feels strongly that we ought not give it to Hebi-chan, feels very strongly that we should give it to another specific person, or feels strongly that we should slow down (I would be skeptical) should make their arguments now. Otherwise, why should we wait?

implosion · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:25 pm

everything i see keeps making me think maria+sky are scum~~~~

Not Known 15 · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:27 pm

In post 494, hebichan wrote:My math says if scum gets a kill every lynch if scums around, we have 3 safe lynches and the 4th brings us below the threshold, 5 bringing us to 3 people.

... and that's not even factoring in extra kills. We should try to advance to the well as soon as possible. After all, we don't want to use up all lynches before advancing to the well in case one scum or third party sneaks in.

BUT before we can advance at all
all 6 keys need to exist at all(and on 6 different people!). (and now I am glad that we decided not to decline to lynch and to wait for a key which would have resulted in a loss at time unit 0 due to the green key missing).
What's even worse is that we need to give force the autoloss condition named Black Key onto a fellow townie.

implosion · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:54 pm

i'm also still pretty unconvinced on TL-scum.

kuribo · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:56 pm

In post 497, Not Known 15 wrote:What's even worse is that we need to give force the autoloss condition named Black Key onto a fellow townie.

Why are you assuming we can't force it onto scum?