The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

Auro · Post Post #2516 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 pm

In post 2510, YAYVIDEOGAMES wrote:auro replaced voted --> auro = scum?

I am paranoid of you though --> Auro = Conftown

Still haven't read up, gimme some time. I'm VT. If anyone can provide a summary of their current thoughts and contexts I'd be glad.

Auro · Post Post #2701 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:27 pm

read through the day, will post in a bit.

Auro · Post Post #2704 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:50 pm

In post 2654, ElevenThirty wrote:Us - conditional bulletproof
Mastina - announcing fruit vendor, visitor, x-shot vig
rhinox - ascetic x-shot vig
auro - vt
pisskop - vt
ank - vt
toog - survivor

ElevenThirty's perspective

:
We're either in 3-3-1 or 4-2-1 or 4-3.
In the first case we're screwed anyway unless Togeloo townsides.
In the second case a Togeloo lynch is good, because he can take a scumsiding win on a town lynch.
In the third case a Togeloo lynch is good, because it brings us to 3-2.
Togeloo being a "Neutral Survivor" is improbable and we're likely in case 3; if it's true we hope we're 4-2-1 and lynch Toog.

Yay's perspective

:
Scum Toog leads to a Yay vs ElevenThirty 1v1 later anyway; so why not finish it now?

I think best play is to lynch Togeloo anyway?

YAYVIDEOGAMES wrote:Auro how do you feel about rolling scum this game?

I haven't

Auro · Post Post #2705 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:17 pm

Why is YVG ElevenThirty a 1v1?

Auro · Post Post #2706 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:21 pm

In post 2682, YAYVIDEOGAMES wrote:Still want to know:
Why mastina targeted voted twice
Why mastina took her shot

If you think she's obvtown, why is this important?

Auro · Post Post #2707 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:32 pm

Mastina doesn't appear like a consensus townread. If Tog is scum and say, Mastina is a NK, it's fine, right?

Auro · Post Post #2708 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:42 pm

Rhinox seems to want to lynch Tog as well. Mastina/Pisskop where do you both stand on this?

Auro · Post Post #2710 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:25 am

Toggle goo.

Auro · Post Post #2718 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:20 pm

In post 2714, ElevenThirty wrote:uh no, what i think it implies is one of:
a) two groupscum
b) you are groupscum

To you. If you're scum, obviously there wouldn't be a hop on, right? The lack of quickhammer either implies Two Groupscum, Toog groupscum, or ElevenThirty scum

If we're 3-3-1 we've lost assuming he scumsides - if he's strictly townsiding town still has a chance, but I think this is highly improbable, and don't buy his case for townsiding.

Auro · Post Post #2719 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:38 am

Yay why have you gone silent?

Auro · Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:51 am

Do you agree that Toog is probscum?

Auro · Post Post #2771 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm

In post 2750, pisskop wrote:VOTE: auro

Unvote immediately. I'm town. I can get quickhammered.

Auro · Post Post #2773 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:53 pm

"I don't have a reason to townread the slot" is a very poor reason to throw a careless vote in possible LyLo.

Auro · Post Post #2774 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:53 pm

In post 2772, skitter30 wrote:I mean, only if toog is 3p and there's 3 groupscum, as we discussed multiple times

Or Toog is groupscum with 2 others and Pisskop is town?

Auro · Post Post #2781 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:11 pm

No revision to my previous position; I still want to lynch Toog? But don't want to lynch yet.

Auro · Post Post #2782 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:12 pm

@Krazy you should be townreading me here.

Auro · Post Post #2785 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:16 pm

If I replaced into a *scum* slot in LyLo I'd have played pretty differently?

@ElevenThirty: We have 10 days? I'm at a sudden busy point IRL, having more time is a plus.

Auro · Post Post #2786 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:21 pm

Scum were planning to push my mislynch the moment I replaced in the last large theme, my role claim prevented that though.

Auro · Post Post #2788 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:24 pm

Pisskop, you've also seen my scumplay. I honestly don't think there's anything I can do to "show" I'm town right now. Not my fault if we lose this one

Auro · Post Post #2790 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:26 pm

In post 2787, YAYVIDEOGAMES wrote:How would you have played differently?

I assume I'd start with more information and a specific plan to follow, and I'd be pushing an agenda.

Auro · Post Post #2791 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:28 pm

In post 2789, pisskop wrote:its been so long tbh?

So? You don't remember my play?

Auro · Post Post #2794 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:30 pm

Sorry.

Auro · Post Post #2797 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:31 pm

Oh I thought I was being quickhammered.

Auro · Post Post #2799 (isolation #23) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:32 pm

Anyway I won't be online for at least 12 hours. If there's anything you guys would like me to comment on specifically tell me.
I think Skitter asking Pisskop to unvote me was towny.

Auro · Post Post #2801 (isolation #24) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:35 pm

Obviously not. I thought I was in the process of it.

Auro · Post Post #2803 (isolation #25) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:38 pm

Krazy if you're still scumreading me you better have good reasons for it.

Auro · Post Post #2806 (isolation #26) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:42 pm

It's a shitty reason to scumread me, because it could very well have been the first vote of quickhammer

Auro · Post Post #2808 (isolation #27) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:47 pm

And why would scum!Auro have that thought process anyway? Unless you think I'm faking thinking it's a quickhammer when as scum especially I should know it isn't?

Auro · Post Post #2810 (isolation #28) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:02 pm

You're the one misrepping tho :3

Auro · Post Post #2814 (isolation #29) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:04 pm

I didn't. I thought scum wouldn't hammer separately so if I got one vote from a slot I'm confident is groupscum, I was being quickhammered.

Auro · Post Post #2815 (isolation #30) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:06 pm

You unvoted me after that though, not before - that's irrelevant anyway, you do understand the difference right?

Auro · Post Post #2816 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:06 pm

When I say "being quickhammered" I don't mean the L-0 quickhammer vote. I mean the L-2 vote right after which both other scum would vote.

Auro · Post Post #2828 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:19 pm

VOTE: Toggle Goo

Auro · Post Post #2961 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:01 pm

Either tog or one of {me, Yay} are scum right?

Auro · Post Post #2963 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:03 pm

How is Tog not the best lynch at this point if you're townreading me and Yay, Mastina?

Auro · Post Post #2966 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:04 pm

Both of us have our votes on Tog. If we both were T and he's not groupscum, there's at least two groupscum and they finish the game.

Auro · Post Post #2969 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:05 pm

In post 2964, YAYVIDEOGAMES wrote:what is the drawback of leaving toog for last???

Why not? One simple reason, the NK leaves a slightly smaller pool

Auro · Post Post #2970 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:06 pm

Did Rhinox flake?

Auro · Post Post #2975 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:10 pm

In post 2974, YAYVIDEOGAMES wrote:I see this more as fear of losing rather than trying to win

Or, trying to win by being patient?

Auro · Post Post #2979 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:18 pm

Mastina feels town
Pisskop, no clue
Krazy felt scummy for that bad push on me
You feel town
Rhinox, no clue
Still think we should Lynch Tog

Auro · Post Post #2982 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:20 pm

If it's 4v2v1 that explains the lack of quickhammer if Tog is NS

Auro · Post Post #2983 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:21 pm

I'll take a closer look.

Auro · Post Post #3011 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:54 am

In post 2996, ElevenThirty wrote:The one thing skitter has said to me in discord re: auro is that his pop ins have been scummily timed

Lol I'm at a particularly busy point right now (started a job, have a weekend research paper deadline) I'm mostly "popping in" once in my morning and occasionally at night, trying to catch up whenever. If I had a lot of time, as either alignment I'd do more than beetlejuice.

Auro · Post Post #3012 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:56 am

Hmm, ironic considering this was beetlejuicy in itself xD

Auro · Post Post #3013 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:56 am

Come Sunday I should be able to invest properly.

Auro · Post Post #3014 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:00 am

So you think my interactions with Pisskop were staged? A random lolbus and constant appeals to unvote, etc?

Auro · Post Post #3016 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:05 am

What other reasons?

Auro · Post Post #3018 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:12 am

I freely admit I'm not "sorting" people very hard

I should be townread by someone familiar not because of towny play, but because as scum with additional information and a planned agenda, I'd be able to post more even being busy.

Auro · Post Post #3019 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:14 am

I think that's a valid reason for a townread and doesn't contradict "sorry I'm busy".

Auro · Post Post #3022 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:21 am

Again, they're not "scummy pop ins", they're literally just me posting briefly in the mornings before work, and briefly in evenings if I get a chance.
The latter. Otherwise, wait till I'm able to "sort people properly", which should be Sunday.

Auro · Post Post #3024 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:25 am

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=79036

Another game I wasn't able to invest in (although not because lack of time), got scumread - I struggle with this a lot more as town than scum.

Auro · Post Post #3029 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:38 am

So, if you *still* think there are valid reasons to scumread me apart from "PoE", what are they?
If you have problems with my arguments, what are they?

Auro · Post Post #3030 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:39 am

In post 3028, ElevenThirty wrote:who's his partner, if not pisskop who's voting him?

You.

Auro · Post Post #3033 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:18 am

I was joking because of your bracketed part

If saying that is scummy, point out to me why it's incorrect?

Auro · Post Post #3034 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:48 am

I'm not even saying "more active and townier". I'm saying I'd have a more solid standing for my pushes. I'd have "proper reads".

It's easy to craft reads as scum. It's hard to develop actual reads as town when you replace in to possible MyLo/LyLo of a 100 page game. Fypov in the universe where I'm town, what would be your expectations from me?

Auro · Post Post #3038 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:21 am

In post 3037, Auro and Shoshin wrote:Aha Irrel, I wasn't talking about capabilities, was I?
Probabilities, not possibilities.
I never said I couldn't *fake* all this.

What do you think is a better opening strategy for scum!Auro when he discovers he replaced into a scum slot to a town that hasn't lynched a single scum yet, knowing it's LyLo/MyLo?
Lackluster posts and saying I'm town for it, or playing the game and driving the final mislynch?

It's more nuanced than "I'm not playing in a towny way". The likelihood that I post more solid content as a scum rep in to LyLo is simply higher than barely passing by, objectively.
And you also know that *any* reason I throw to saying I should be townread could be cast away if I'm capable of faking that as scum, which means I can never towncase myself.

I'm asking to be townread on an objective basis.

Replacing in - regardless I'd be having *some* degree of info - whether it's a 4v2v1 or 3v3v1 or 4v3: and the lack of cohesion's enough to take advantage of.

Give space to town and what? Obviously I'd want to influence it, right?

But fine, yeah, sure. Sunday.

Auro · Post Post #3040 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:36 am

No, they're still useful. Trying to self-meta WIFOM convince you, Krazy, mastina to townread me for this reason as scum is a pretty shit strategy.

Two strategies - one that'll make me hard to lynch, get me probable townread, help nudge town for a mislynch (I'd just need one town voting another) versus posting pretty bad content, saying "I'm not posting so townread me lol" expecting everyone to townread me for it.

What gives me a higher winning chance as scum?
That's where I'm debating probabilities.

Auro · Post Post #3042 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:58 am

And you think it's equally likely I'd go for what I know is a shitty strategy, instead of the superior play.
Okay.

Auro · Post Post #3077 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:22 am

Rhinox you have two people voting for you and you vote off wagon?

Auro · Post Post #3120 (isolation #59) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:22 am

Auro · Post Post #3125 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:52 am

I think Mastina should be cleared, I'll treat her as town.

If scum was on the wagon, {11:30, Rhinox} has scum.
If scum was off, {Pisskop} has scum.

Going by the wagon, I feel like scum would want to be *on* it rather than off - although Pisskop's EoD play doesn't look good at all. He:
>Asserted repeatedly that he's "playing lazy"
>Tried to push Mastina+Auro as a team
>Only said "I think I'm voting Auro or Tog" when Tog was about to be lynched

What do you make of this?

If scum was on the wagon, I'm not recalling anything uniquely scum-indicative in the way either of you pushed Tog. I'll have to read up on the posts. I know Sunday has come, but I'll do this tomorrow.

Auro · Post Post #3126 (isolation #61) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:54 am

In post 3122, Rhinox wrote:Thinking mastina/auro here

So the Night Kill didn't affect your Mastina read at all?
Why'd you think it was me again? Tl;dr?

Auro · Post Post #3129 (isolation #62) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:09 am

How does the toog flip make you town?

Auro · Post Post #3130 (isolation #63) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:19 am

The same logic applies to you too.

Auro · Post Post #3132 (isolation #64) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:31 am

Yeah yeah, got it.

Auro · Post Post #3133 (isolation #65) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:31 am

In post 3077, Auro wrote:Rhinox you have two people voting for you and you vote off wagon?

This

is what makes you think I'm scum??

Auro · Post Post #3231 (isolation #66) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:06 pm

In post 3227, ElevenThirty wrote:auro when are you going to be useful ... ?

I just woke up. What are you expecting from me? I gave some thoughts and asked you what you think earlier; any comments?

Auro · Post Post #3236 (isolation #67) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:08 pm

In post 3125, Auro wrote:Going by the wagon, I feel like scum would want to be *on* it rather than off - although Pisskop's EoD play doesn't look good at all. He:
>Asserted repeatedly that he's "playing lazy"
>Tried to push Mastina+Auro as a team
>Only said "I think I'm voting Auro or Tog" when Tog was about to be lynched

This + Pisskop's quickvote = ew
Do you not trust Yay's Mastina read?

Auro · Post Post #3239 (isolation #68) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:09 pm

You were very strong that Yay/Mastina shared alignments yesterday.
Yay flipped town.
So...

Auro · Post Post #3243 (isolation #69) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:12 pm

What are your concerns with Mastina - tl;dr? Irrel isn't going to play the rest of the game, yeah?

Auro · Post Post #3245 (isolation #70) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:13 pm

In post 3235, ElevenThirty wrote:other than this ^^^ 3125 is just a lot of fence-sitting

I think you could figure a solve from 3125. Rhinox (as Mastina 1v1 + Mastina town) + Pisskop.

Auro · Post Post #3246 (isolation #71) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:14 pm

Why does scum!Mastina ever kill Yay?

Auro · Post Post #3247 (isolation #72) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:16 pm

Your disagreement is that you townread Rhinox more than Mastina, yeah? What made Rhinox town, tl;dr?

Auro · Post Post #3248 (isolation #73) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:16 pm

Rhinox, will you be voting outside Mastina today?

Auro · Post Post #3250 (isolation #74) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:18 pm

You know Mastina could just NK someone else and have Yay prevent a lynch on her, right?

Auro · Post Post #3253 (isolation #75) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:22 pm

In post 3251, ElevenThirty wrote:like if we assume mastina is town why does yay die

I don't necessarily see the advantage of Mastina over Yay as a NK, if you're town.
Was Yay townreading Pisskop?

Auro · Post Post #3254 (isolation #76) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:24 pm

There shouldn't have been a "confrontation" wouldn't the same-alignment thing work either way?

Auro · Post Post #3262 (isolation #77) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:32 pm

ElevenTwenty, if you assume Mastina's town what would your solve be? Rhinox + ?

Auro · Post Post #3267 (isolation #78) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:35 pm

Yup, it's plausible scum thought a lynch on Mastina would be easier than Yay - even if scum assumed there'd be a confrontation with ElevenForty today, Yay "coming around" would be dangerous in the long term.

Auro · Post Post #3269 (isolation #79) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:35 pm

In post 3265, ElevenThirty wrote:you're scummier than pk

Can you go into why? Is it just "Auro's not doing anything" or something about my pushes?

Auro · Post Post #3270 (isolation #80) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:36 pm

There's a lot of "Auro is scummy" in this thread but no real reasons why.

Auro · Post Post #3274 (isolation #81) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:37 pm

In post 3272, ElevenThirty wrote:and i don't see you doing that really

After I offered a solve?

Auro · Post Post #3278 (isolation #82) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:38 pm

In post 3275, pisskop wrote:nonpresence. tone. nonsolving, no commitment, meta, tonal, probs offed yaya to prevent a meta read on you, i mean i can make a list.

Non-presence changes today, as I said many times.
Nonsolving - blatantly false.
Meta - Okay, wut? Show similarities pls.
Tonal - ??

Auro · Post Post #3280 (isolation #83) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:39 pm

In post 3245, Auro wrote:
In post 3235, ElevenThirty wrote:other than this ^^^ 3125 is just a lot of fence-sitting
I think you could figure a solve from 3125. Rhinox (as Mastina 1v1 + Mastina town) + Pisskop.

You're ignoring this, ElevenFifty?

Auro · Post Post #3281 (isolation #84) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:40 pm

You should be able to understand why Pisskop from my PoV should be *very* likely scum, yes?

Auro · Post Post #3283 (isolation #85) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:42 pm

It was an obvious conclusion. If there's a mechanical 1v1 between two people, and I townread one, my solve would consist of the other.
And if I'm making a case for why someone's scum, that means I think they're scum.

I don't need to townread you here.

Auro · Post Post #3284 (isolation #86) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:43 pm

In post 3282, ElevenThirty wrote:pedit because of his vote on you ?

I gave a case on his yesterday's dayplay, especially towards EoD.
He pushed me on shitty reasons yesterday as well.
He's trying to rush a lynch on me today.

He's pulling reasons to scumread me out of his ass. Meta? Sure, ask him to substantiate?

Auro · Post Post #3285 (isolation #87) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:45 pm

In post 3283, Auro wrote:I don't need to townread you here.

You do recognize my read of you doesn't impact my choice of lynch today much, yeah?
Do you recall I was townreading you the previous day?

Auro · Post Post #3286 (isolation #88) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:53 pm

Pisskop, let's do your meta test. Show me a scumgame of mine where I'm "non-committal, tonally scum, non-present"?
Literally every scumgame I'm the opposite. I sometimes find it harder to get townread as town.

Auro · Post Post #3287 (isolation #89) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:54 pm

Faking pushes when you're informed is easier than actually figuring things out, at least to me. I think I even had a convo with Irrel about this - that I should start replicating my scum confidence in pushes to gamesolve better.

Auro · Post Post #3289 (isolation #90) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:06 pm

In post 3286, Auro wrote:Pisskop, let's do your meta test. Show me a scumgame of mine where I'm "non-committal, tonally scum, non-present"?

Auro · Post Post #3292 (isolation #91) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:10 pm

In post 3290, pisskop wrote:nah.

^Color me unsurprised.

Second round.

Which part of "Mastina's town, therefore Rhinox is scum in the 1v1, and Pisskop is scum" is non-committal?

Auro · Post Post #3294 (isolation #92) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:14 pm

Rhinox's reason for scumreading me also sucks. He took a *single* question -- my asking why he was voting for someone outside his wagon -- exclusively as scum-indicative.

Auro · Post Post #3298 (isolation #93) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:46 pm

ElevenFifty, still think Piss is towny?

Auro · Post Post #3301 (isolation #94) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:11 pm

Nearly everyone's scumreading me mostly for "not being present" when I said I'd start being present around now. This is a scum-motivated push.

Auro · Post Post #3309 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:49 am

Present. Not hammering anyone. Back in a couple hours.

Auro · Post Post #3319 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:31 am

I did get fruit.

Auro · Post Post #3320 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:33 am

What's the scum motivation in it?

Auro · Post Post #3322 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:02 am

Didn't read my PMs before she claimed to send it :$

Referring to saying "Present". Funny Pisskop's pushing that "signaling" idea knowing there's daytalk, lol.
Fling whatever and see what sticks?

Auro · Post Post #3324 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:33 am

I do, yes. But, scum motivation?
I think she's just not really keeping track of the game?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:37 am

Could it be interpreted as evidence of lying? He claims ascetic, successful visit -> He's lying?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:16 am

An acknowledgment that you visited someone? I dunno.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:52 am

Ok
Yeah that sounds much more reasonable. Mastina, could you come in here?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:31 pm

In post 3361, pisskop wrote:i think your problem is that you townread engagement. you think that because people spew abstract opinions your way they're town

"Let's kill Auro for being non present"
Hmmmmmmm.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:32 pm

Mastina, my read on you was sheeping Yay's read on you + that NK never comes from you.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:39 pm

Eleven, why aren't you confident Mastina's town?

@Pisskop: I'm showing everyone else how your arguments suck.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:46 pm

Who is that addressed to?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:46 pm

In post 3386, pisskop wrote:this make a 1v1 with rhinox.

I mean, c'mon, you knew that

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:50 pm

Sheep Ank and if you're wrong, blame it on her.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:56 pm

I'm town, Skitter.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:01 pm

Mastina doesn't perform that night kill now. If she was worried about Krazy, she would've eliminated them long ago, not lategame when they strongly townread her.

Rhinox "makes sense" but that's not town indicative, as you point out. I think it's easier to "make sense" as scum, in fact.

Pisskop's been flinging all sorts of shit to convince you to scumread me, with little basis in reality. He was unable to explain any of his reasons in depth, when called out. He continually tried to rush a lynch on me, not just today, but yesterday as well.

Both Rhinox and Pisskop want me lynched - that should be saying something

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:12 pm

In post 3401, skitter30 wrote:tbf i'm not sure this is 'unable to explain any of his reasons in depth', so much as 'doesn't care to'
and i'm not sure that's ai for him in any way

It's not that he won't; he can't. His reasonings are all wrong. "Meta", "Non-committal" etc etc. He kept pushing the "signaling scum partner" argument even when you pointed out it's false.

His not explaining is not what's AI, it's that he's using false arguments. That's AI, and his inability to explain them is a bonus.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:12 pm

In post 3405, pisskop wrote:msatin/rhinox has some ambiguity.

Oh really now?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:13 pm

In post 3407, pisskop wrote:auro is vorkie.

vorkie was obvscum as hell.

Lol.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:14 pm

In post 1447, schadd_ wrote:
Vorkuta has been lynched! he was a
vanilla townie

night 1 starts and hopefully ends 48 hours after a replacement shows up.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:15 pm

In post 3411, pisskop wrote:Do you see how he needs to post? its because this is where the real 1v1 is.

Remember how I said intentions matter? Why wasnt he posting so hard before I made a line in the sand?

I said I'd start posting on Sunday. And I did. And you guys have spurts of activity during my nights -- I live a continent away -- I've explained this multiple times. You sure you want to still keep driving this?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:16 pm

In post 3415, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3413, Auro wrote:
i'm talking about vork in the normal where i mislynched pk last week, whoops

No, Pisskop said I'm Vork and Vork was obvscum.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:17 pm

In post 3407, pisskop wrote:auro is vorkie.

vorkie was obvscum as hell.

But I'm not Vorkie.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:18 pm

Skitter, can you please read Pisskop's ISO from last day and today? Read all the reasons he's pushed me for.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:36 pm

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=79036

Read Michael Scott's ISO in this game.

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79935
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=80107
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=78634
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=78999
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=78009

An assortment of my scumgames. Feel free to ISO.

Tell me what you observe.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:39 pm

In post 3435, skitter30 wrote:a) makes an effort to look townie
b) tries to talk your way out of scumreads/confronts them head-on and tries to get people to change their minds (i.e. as opposed to ignoring them, like here and the normal)
c) are generally more political and tries to get yourself into a good position in the gamestate

He's been saying a lot of times he's obvtown, you should read so and so posts; at least in his view he's trying to look townie.

Where's he ignoring reads? He literally asked you to choose fast and go with your gut, till you mentioned you'd vote him - and his time changed pretty fast.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:41 pm

Also feel free to look at the recent Anime UPick I repped into late in the game; same situation. I was "lackluster", scum were planning to push my mislynch, my role saved me.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:23 pm

Is there no usual condition in Mbos games that scum can't gift scum?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:26 pm

I mean, scum gifting themselves vig shots seems a bit unfair.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:36 pm

I doubt they'd sk-hunt overtly, but if there's an SK it's in Rhinox/Mastina from kill claims, yes?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:36 pm

Even if one of them is scum, the other should be vig/SK from their perspective, thus makes sense to push each other.

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:44 pm

In post 3472, pisskop wrote:He is asking you. He's trying to lead you. He is suggesting something in question form.

The fish are you on about? I'm trying to lead Skitter to believe that SK might be in Rhinox/Mastina?

Auro · Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:49 pm

Haha I got the pagetop

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:21 am

In post 3502, Auro and Shoshin wrote:
In post 3481, Rhinox wrote:except even mastina explained why yay was the obvious nk even (or especially) if she's scum, see above
Misrep. Obvious NK on N1, yes. Not this late.

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:23 am

In post 3484, Rhinox wrote:I see mastina corrected you in the QT to shift the narrative from "wouldn't have made the kill N4" to would have made the kill much earlier...

Lolwut?

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:44 am

In post 3491, Rhinox wrote:and auro is more focused on me/mastina and trying to put off the 1v1 with him pisskop until tomorrow.

I'd be happy to see Pisskop lynched.

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:29 pm

VOTE: pk

Just in case

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:33 pm

In post 3555, skitter30 wrote:i mean it's kinda over at this point

My vote wasn't on pisskop.

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:39 pm

I'm sorry for the shitty performance, I really am starting to dislike rolling scum - plus I didn't anticipate how busy I'd get IRL, which made following and keeping up extra hard.

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:43 pm

If you lynched me and survived to tomorrow, who'd you go for?

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:53 pm

Right. Okay.

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:58 pm

Tbh that's what I'd do in LyLo. No overthinking, just sheep Yay

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:05 pm

What are you referring to by "trifecta" you mean the night with multiple night kills?

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:20 pm

In post 4, schadd_ wrote:
Chemist1422, Vengaboys, and Gamma Emerald will indefinitely be unable to post in this thread, with the potential exception of a single post saying "ego" in the next 24 hrs.

So what were these people doing again?

Auro · Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:21 pm

In post 3577, Ankamius wrote:sorry for sucking

You guys had me and Rhinox both nailed at the end *_* That wasn't "sucking"