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Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:16 pm

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Btw fire, if I was playing in an "egomaniac"al way I'd be doing what Ank did and trying to ram the Bitmap lynch down everyone's throats in much the same way she was doing with Vecna. And yes, clearly her read was bad if 1. it wound up being wrong and 2. I could see her logic was wrong even though I wasn't 100% on vecna being town myself.
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Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 3549, Firebringer wrote:i think bitmap/gif are town. You people can fite me all day
Well, your scum reads have all been town, so.

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Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:17 pm

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I think there's a real chance they are but this prolly should happen
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Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 3551, pienyan wrote:
In post 3549, Firebringer wrote:i think bitmap/gif are town. You people can fite me all day
Well, your scum reads have all been town, so.

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Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:18 pm

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do i get points back when they flip town or how are we doing the point system pie?
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Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:19 pm

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In post 3552, chennisden wrote:I think there's a real chance they are but this prolly should happen
How do you think this game works without Bitmap being scum? I can't really see how it fits together unless you think we're wrong about Fire or if Bingle is scum.
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Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:19 pm

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wow ur point system needs an overhaul.
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Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:19 pm

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Here's why I think the final scum are in the same pair:

(1) the kill on the IC indicates that scum DOESN'T need me dead to win. I.e. that they just need to be in the final pairing. In fact scum has a clear path to victory - lynch the other two pairs don't get lynched and then Sakura leaves then they go "yeet bye bye"
(2) there's been A LOT OF PAIRS defending their partner rly hard. if ur irrationally defending ur partner rly hard u can just die anyway tbh.
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Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:20 pm

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In post 3555, pienyan wrote:
In post 3552, chennisden wrote:I think there's a real chance they are but this prolly should happen
How do you think this game works without Bitmap being scum? I can't really see how it fits together unless you think we're wrong about Fire or if Bingle is scum.
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I think both scum are in the same pair.
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Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:20 pm

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It's my system and you're being a dork, so.
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Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:20 pm

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And you could be wrong on Fire, but I don't think Fire/Oka
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Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:21 pm

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Lemme talk about gifmap.

They've been defending each other really hard the entire game and i think their "nk bait" is a terrible justification for their play.

i think this could just end the game. and if it doesn't we might need to re-evaluate the fire/oka pair.
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Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 3550, pienyan wrote:Btw fire, if I was playing in an "egomaniac"al way I'd be doing what Ank did and trying to ram the Bitmap lynch down everyone's throats in much the same way she was doing with Vecna. And yes, clearly her read was bad if 1. it wound up being wrong and 2. I could see her logic was wrong even though I wasn't 100% on vecna being town myself.
i think u are being one just in ur own stuck up way right now, which looks extremely uncharismatic and kind of annoying. I don't see how this helps with anything but just thought id let u know.

the way ur acting isn't really changing how i think of ur alignment, i just think ur either intentionally or (maybe unintentionally) being dishonest with how ur behaving and the events that transpired.

this is something i see in egomaniac players, where they rewrite and reframe past events to paint themselves in the best light.
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Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:23 pm

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whats townie about oka again?
i completely forgot why i should be townreading oka.
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Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:23 pm

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In post 3557, chennisden wrote:Here's why I think the final scum are in the same pair:

(1) the kill on the IC indicates that scum DOESN'T need me dead to win. I.e. that they just need to be in the final pairing. In fact scum has a clear path to victory - lynch the other two pairs don't get lynched and then Sakura leaves then they go "yeet bye bye"
(2) there's been A LOT OF PAIRS defending their partner rly hard. if ur irrationally defending ur partner rly hard u can just die anyway tbh.
I don't think Nimu/GE is a scum pair, since I don't think Nimu's pre-read and defense of GE works if GE is scum (her meta was accurate tbh), only if it's Nimu-scum GE-town.

I've had thoughts of GIF-bitmap being a scum pair but I doubt it? Idk.
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Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:23 pm

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In post 3559, pienyan wrote:It's my system and you're being a dork, so.
well ur a nerd.

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Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 pm

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lemme just make the gamestate clear.

it's VERY LIKELY that the final scum are paired IMO. and are in the gays. explains croag's death since it was kinda inevitable looking.

we are
never lynching


{Chengle}
{SakuPie}

I would also be really happy if Sakura decided not to lolleave at mylo so we could lynch ALL THREE other pairs but I accept that this won't happen. Also this is probably why some of you folks are okay townbinning Pie so fine.

Our lynchpool is

{Gifmap}
{Fireoka}
{Nimerald}

We can only lynch
two of them
and we need to find the pair with both scum. This fits a lot of my thoughts on the gamestate (Croag just
dying
, Gay pairs defending each other very hard, etc.) Now I think Firoka fits this mould the least and Gifmap fits it the best. I don't think this is a case of "too easy to be true" (w.r.t. the pairing being scum scum). ALSO if I'm wrong it could just be Bitmap scum.

Thoughts?
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Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 3564, pienyan wrote:
In post 3557, chennisden wrote:Here's why I think the final scum are in the same pair:

(1) the kill on the IC indicates that scum DOESN'T need me dead to win. I.e. that they just need to be in the final pairing. In fact scum has a clear path to victory - lynch the other two pairs don't get lynched and then Sakura leaves then they go "yeet bye bye"
(2) there's been A LOT OF PAIRS defending their partner rly hard. if ur irrationally defending ur partner rly hard u can just die anyway tbh.
I don't think Nimu/GE is a scum pair, since I don't think Nimu's pre-read and defense of GE works if GE is scum (her meta was accurate tbh), only if it's Nimu-scum GE-town.

I've had thoughts of GIF-bitmap being a scum pair but I doubt it? Idk.
If Nimu/Gemerald isn't a scumpair then we don't lynch them I guess

Idk maybe it's too easy to be true but if Gif is playing this way as scum it can explain the gamestate and their play in general.
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Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 3564, pienyan wrote:
In post 3557, chennisden wrote:Here's why I think the final scum are in the same pair:

(1) the kill on the IC indicates that scum DOESN'T need me dead to win. I.e. that they just need to be in the final pairing. In fact scum has a clear path to victory - lynch the other two pairs don't get lynched and then Sakura leaves then they go "yeet bye bye"
(2) there's been A LOT OF PAIRS defending their partner rly hard. if ur irrationally defending ur partner rly hard u can just die anyway tbh.
I don't think Nimu/GE is a scum pair, since I don't think Nimu's pre-read and defense of GE works if GE is scum (her meta was accurate tbh), only if it's Nimu-scum GE-town.

I've had thoughts of GIF-bitmap being a scum pair but I doubt it? Idk.
If Nimu/Gemerald isn't a scumpair then we don't lynch them I guess

Idk maybe it's too easy to be true but if Gif is playing this way as scum it can explain the gamestate and their play in general.
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Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 3564, pienyan wrote:
In post 3557, chennisden wrote:Here's why I think the final scum are in the same pair:

(1) the kill on the IC indicates that scum DOESN'T need me dead to win. I.e. that they just need to be in the final pairing. In fact scum has a clear path to victory - lynch the other two pairs don't get lynched and then Sakura leaves then they go "yeet bye bye"
(2) there's been A LOT OF PAIRS defending their partner rly hard. if ur irrationally defending ur partner rly hard u can just die anyway tbh.
I don't think Nimu/GE is a scum pair, since I don't think Nimu's pre-read and defense of GE works if GE is scum (her meta was accurate tbh), only if it's Nimu-scum GE-town.

I've had thoughts of GIF-bitmap being a scum pair but I doubt it? Idk.
Uh I think if they flip the same alignment my theory is prolly right and that corners scum anyway
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Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 3562, Firebringer wrote:the way ur acting isn't really changing how i think of ur alignment, i just think ur either intentionally or (maybe unintentionally) being dishonest with how ur behaving and the events that transpired.
I don't really think so. I straight hated Ank's play and I think it's a lot of the reason the game got like this.

I guess we can just agree to disagree here. And yes, I'm not very charismatic, but I can rely on logic.
In post 3563, Firebringer wrote:whats townie about oka again?
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Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:27 pm

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Like gifmap both flips town. (and if they both flip scum)
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Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:27 pm

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frankly i think gif/bitmap are the most townie pair.
my second towniest pair doesn't come close.

maybe maybe chengle as second but god i am all over the map with the rest of pairs.


sakura/pie is my lowest pair by far too.

I don't have a third scum rn which kind of bothers me. Maybe I will get it by poe.
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Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:28 pm

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Who do you think is scum
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Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:28 pm

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Ugh

Is it FB/Bitmap

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