BTE: Boon Wars - Revenge of the Jingle

[Darth Easy Baker]

No I'm not saying it's all town, but I'm not saying the game is solved by lynching in the last people who voted FG when there wasn't any other option

They were literally preventing a no lynch (ex. DEB)

This.

[Darth Easy Baker]

Shade is bullshit as a tell btw.

Also this.

[Shirobacca]

Well Nute you basically don't read at all like town you then, are you roleplaying a bad guy or something?

[Nute Krazy]

Are you fishing for identity here?
I'm playing exactly like I play every town game, with the exception of not being able to use meta at all.

[Shirobacca]

This.

Agreeing with something that was a refutation to something I never said makes me think one of the two of you is scum trying to avoid the venge.

VOTE: DEB

RCE's iso is totally empty but that you, Tytus, and Nute are all arguing against finding scum on the wagon without actually arguing for any of the individual slots being town is scummy AF. One of you is obviously just town playing poorly in an unreadable game but there's no way all three of you pushing back on finding scum on the wagon are town.

[Shirobacca]

Are you fishing for identity here?
I'm playing exactly like I play every town game, with the exception of not being able to use meta at all.

Why would I need to fish when you would have to be braindead to not know which player you are?

Also you are much less chill than you usually are

[Nute Krazy]

Nute are all arguing against finding scum on the wagon

This is incorrect. I'm not saying anything about on / off wagon.

[Shirobacca]

Lynchpool is now {Tytus, DEB, Nute} because this pushback is incredibly scummy, RCE is probably town through PoE

[Shirobacca]

Nute are all arguing against finding scum on the wagon

This is incorrect. I'm not saying anything about on / off wagon.

THEN WHAT ARE YOU ARGUING?

WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE WORDS YOU ARE WRITING?

[Nute Krazy]

I commented about how FG and Baezda were not obvtown. That has absolutely nothing to do with wagon composition.

[Shirobacca]

What is the point of making that argument except to refute my point that we should be finding the scum that helped push through FG?

[Shirobacca]

Like are you just saying words or what?

[Nute Krazy]

I saw something which I thought was incorrect, and commented on it.
You are assuming the purpose of the comment is something different than what the actual purpose was.
The subsequent conversation relates to that wrong assumption about purpose.

To make this even more clear:
I have not looked at end of day wagon composition nor the events that led to it. I'd be happy to do so, but that hasn't been my focus.

[Shirobacca]

Sure, ok.

My point was that while FG might not have been obvTROWN to everyone, he certainly was to me, and while the wagon was demonstrably town-led (given that scum opted to kill the person leading it), I don't think the entire wagon was town because I simply don't see FG being so scummy that both remaining scum would have avoided pushing through that wagon. That makes me think at least one of the remaining scum was on the FG wagon. There's only four people left on that wagon, one of which I have mixed feelings about but can see as town (Padme), one of which has an unreadable iso and so can easily be scum (RCE), one of which my other head townreads but I am less confident on (Tytus), and the last of which I've been thinking about but certainly could be scum (DEB).

So you can either argue that you actually don't think scum were on the wagon at all (which I disagree with), or you can argue that one of those four is or is not town (thus limiting the lynch/venge pool). That Tytus and DEB both started pushing back despite the fact that I was voting RCE makes me think one of the two is scum, is spewing RCE town, and was trying to avoid a venge shot. Arguing whether or not FG was obvtown or not is irrelevant; it was simply part of my point that his wagon did not go through while being entire town. So saying you think he wasn't obvtown but agree that scum might have been on the wagon is ???????

[Darth Easy Baker]

Agreeing with something that was a refutation to something I never said makes me think one of the two of you is scum trying to avoid the venge.

I don't care what it was in response to, the point was still a valid one. You implied that it was scum-motivated to vote FG when the alternative was a no-lynch, which is blatantly wrong.

[Nute Krazy]

Wagon
Frozen Grievous [7]: Anniecan Boonrunner, Padme Almostdala, Baezda, Irreleph Organa, Darth Tytitus, Darth Easy Baker, RCEPO,
Baezda [4]: Shirobacca, Frozen Grievous, Ki-Adi-Joandi, Nute Krazy,
RCEP0 [1]: Arist2D2,

Not Voting [1]: Obi-Someth Kenobi,

Reads in wagon order
Flipped town: Flipped town, townread, flipped town, scumread, ?, ?, scumread
Flipped town: townread, flipped town, townread, town
scumread: ?

not voting: ?

Player list / reads
Padme Almostdala medium-strong town
RCE-P0 scum (weak activity)
Obi-Someth Kenobi unknown
Arist-2D2 unknown
Irrelph Organa medium scum by behavior
Nute Krazy town
Shirobacca medium-strong town
Ki-Adi-Joandi medium town
Darth TyTitus unknown
Darth Easy Baker unknown

To-do list: Figure out the unknowns. If they're still unknown by this point in a game it can only mean one of two things -- either they have not been memorable enough compared to amount of activity, or they have done both scummy and towny things and I can't decide which thoughts are stronger.

[Darth Easy Baker]

VOTE: DEB

You're eating a vengekill if we're lynched, I hope you realize.

[Nute Krazy]

We've been down the empty threats path before with me and Padme. Let's cool the jets a bit.

[Shirobacca]

Agreeing with something that was a refutation to something I never said makes me think one of the two of you is scum trying to avoid the venge.

I don't care what it was in response to, the point was still a valid one. You implied that it was scum-motivated to vote FG when the alternative was a no-lynch, which is blatantly wrong.

Except I never said I was pushing people for voting at the end of the day, I was saying the wagon does not go through with only town on it because FG was not scummy enough for that to be an all town wagon. I wasn't voting RCE because he was the last vote on the wagon, I was voting RCE because he was on the wagon and there are few reasons to townread him regardless of his placement on the wagon. So you're agreeing with a refutation to a point I never made and patting yourself on the back for it.

[Shirobacca]

You're eating a vengekill if we're lynched, I hope you realize.

Yeah or you could find scum. Or even find town. Convince me that two of the living players on the FG wagon are town and we'll have a good PoE. That you seem to want to just AtE out of a push you doesn't make me think you're any less likely to flip scum.

[Darth Easy Baker]

But like, at that point you're just artificially restricting yourself. I can pick five random slots in the game and yeah, odds are one of them's going to be scum. If you don't think being on the wagon specifically was scummy, then you're really just doing that.

Clearly whatever obvtown vibes FG gave out were not picked up by anyone else. So I don't think it's inconceivable that the wagon could have been all town-- it's unlikely of course, but only due to statistics-- and so you're really just limiting yourself to a random pool for no good reason.

[Ki Adi Joandi]

i will repeat that our vote is not likely to be outside of rcepo and Irrelph today unless someone convinces us with a really good case

i also want to tell you all youre very very bad at concealing your identities. someone remind me after the game is over to point out what you all said in these last few pages to give away your true identities. really?

deb and shiro are both likely town here. tunneling each other is not going to help us much and could cost us the game. nute is also town to me and padme is like an unofficial ic.

thats all i have to say for this time. i hope you all get along and focus on lynching scum today or at the very least if we lynch town to have them vengekill scum

[Shirobacca]

deb and shiro are both likely town here.

what specifically makes you think deb is likely town?

[Nute Krazy]

Upgrade Kenobi to weak town. I had noticed something in an iso earlier but forgot about it.

[Boonskiies]

Vote Count 3.03

The time is based off of California time, or -8:00, month first, then day.

RCEPO [2]:

Obi Someth Kenobi, Ki Adi Joandi,

Irrelph Organa [2]:

Arist2d2, Nute Krazy

Darth Easy Baker [2]:

Irrelph Organa, Shirobacca

Obi Someth Kenobi[1]:

Darth Tytitus

Not Voting [3]:

Padme Almostdala, Darth Easy Baker, RCEPO,

With

10

alive, it takes

6

to execute.

Day ends in (expired on 2019-08-06 20:00:00)

on

August 6th, 2019.

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