Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[TemporalLich]

Congrats I am confirmed town

[MariaR]

That was a lot of words of mostly GI ranting from the looks of it but I get the bases of what he's trying to say. Although I wish he brought up more examples on what he means with 249

[kuribo]

Maria I'm gonna say this as nicely as possible


If you're gonna half ass it all game and pop in and out offering nothing, maybe you should get the fuck out.

[kuribo]

Like I'm not even trying to be mean, but this is a game with specific time-related mechanics and you're coasting along with shit like HI WHAT I MISS I HAVE NO SCUM READS


like you're signed up to a game and not even playing it

[kuribo]

That was mean, I'm sorry don't mind me I've barely slept in like a week

[MariaR]

I haven't half assed the game. The first time I went afk was recently but that was site wide. Besides that I don't really care what you have to say because I haven't been 'half assing' anything.

I get that you're scum and need to try and throw shade but please try and do it in a logical way.
pedit: I don't really care what you have to say I don't find it mean it's a game of mafia who cares.

[Alisae]

i townread mariar

[kuribo]

I haven't half assed the game. The first time I went afk was recently but that was site wide. Besides that I don't really care what you have to say because I haven't been 'half assing' anything.

I get that you're scum and need to try and throw shade but please try and do it in a logical way.
pedit: I don't really care what you have to say I don't find it mean it's a game of mafia who cares.

You don't know shit about my scum game dude and this sure as hell isnt it


So get a fuckin stick out your ass and stop scumreading people just because they called you out

[kuribo]

If you think for two Fucking seconds that I put scum first or second in a CYS after a completely DISASTROUS stretch of every scum game in the last two years, you need to replace the captain of your fuckin brain ship

[kuribo]

I joined this game with the INTENTION of not being fucking scum and for some lucky durkey to call me scum when she isn't even reading is just maddening

[MariaR]

1) I was scumreading you before you 'called me out' (if you want to call it that) so that point is mute
2) I don't know or care about your scum meta and how you play the game. I'm not lynching you first so you can relax for a bit. if you want to keep throwing insults because that'll help make you feel better by all means.
Are you gonna ask relevant questions now or waste more of time?
pedit: That answers my question.

[kuribo]

1) kinda hard to tell who you're scum reading when you don't post

2) I'm not afraid of getting lynched, I'm actually counting on it

[Alisae]

mebbe kuribo is scum

[kuribo]

mebbe kuribo is scum

Mebbe you're not paying attention either

[kuribo]

To punish your insolence, both of you, I will not be revealing the things I know nor the secrets I hold behind the black gate

[MariaR]

He's trying to pretend to be delusional 'not reading' but that's just a really weak defense. If this is the line of logic he's gonna try to apply it's worthless for me to try and argue it. He wouldn't have this outlook as town because it wouldn't exist if he was really reading.
Now that we have that out of the way. Why are people townreading Hebi? I know people gave her the key but I still don't see much that makes me call her town. It's one of the other 3 slots I don't have a read on.

[Alisae]

my read is only based on how you're handling mariar and I really don't like it
I don't really think it comes across as genuine.

Also

If you think for two Fucking seconds that I put scum first or second in a CYS after a completely DISASTROUS stretch of every scum game in the last two years, you need to replace the captain of your fuckin brain ship

you realize Pine was trying to say the samething and we lynched him right?

[kuribo]

Then lynch me


It actually increases my odds of winning

[Alisae]

Now that we have that out of the way. Why are people townreading Hebi? I know people gave her the key but I still don't see much that makes me call her town. It's one of the other 3 slots I don't have a read on.

where exactly are you at atm?

[kuribo]

He's trying to pretend to be delusional 'not reading' but that's just a really weak defense. If this is the line of logic he's gonna try to apply it's worthless for me to try and argue it. He wouldn't have this outlook as town because it wouldn't exist if he was really reading.

I don't need to pretend anything because I fully expect to be lynched as I've said several times


I also don't give a damn who gets lynched to an extent which is why I haven't voted for anyone to be lynched

[implosion]

on the one hand i also kind of feel like maria has phoned it in
on the other hand i feel like i'm just waiting to see what this game is.
-shrug-

I don't think kuribo is scummy. I think the frustration at how maria's been playing is relatable. Like I think I mentioned earlier Maria's activity pattern early had been reminding me of mlp, and v/la or not that hasn't really changed.

As for reasons to townread hebichan: the way she acted around the first key coming around was townish, how she claimed to need the green key but didn't selfvote; I don't think she would pick scum; the tempo of her posting has been pretty good in general/she seems invested in a townish way. There's some other stuff but shrug.

Other people I'm tempted to townread are NK15, Alisae, kuribo, plum, greyice and katsuki (and TL as I've mentioned), though I have reservations about all of those except NK15. This is literally everyone alive except maria/sky so obviously some of them are wrong (if I had to throw out the reads I feel best about as town it'd be, eh, hebi NK kuribo and then maybe ali and plum? though that could change in 5 minutes) I guess my reads haven't really changed in like a week since nothing has happened zzzzz

You know, I was going to do a point by point on why this is bad, but that's not the point at all. My thoughts here is that this post is backfill reasoning. It's what you would get if you started with the premise "TL feels town" and then went through his ISO to justify that premise. I'm going to point out a few logical flaws here.

I mean... this isn't wrong? It *is* me back-justifying a gut townread on the slot. And I wasn't really trying to hide that?

Like I said, it's not a strong read. It's not one I'm going to actively proselytize for, but his play doesn't strike me as particularly scummy and i think there are reasons to townread him that do have some material weight.

I'd prefer you to take a closer look and give a more nuanced answer. While it may or may not affect my read on TL, depending on the content, saying "it's my gut, and I don't really care if you wagon a town read for one of our five lynches" does effect my read on you. Which is a thread I'll probably follow up on when we're getting closer to having another lynch and this isn't all just circle jerking.

My answer doesn't lack nuance.
It just isn't the answer you seem to want to hear.
If there's a banish wagon on him then I'll look at him more closely but even then I don't think he's likely to ever wind up in an attempted coalition... so I don't see why you want me to put so much effort into sorting him in particular. Kinda feels like you're trying to shade me for the sake of shading me?

[Not Known 15]

okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.

My chips are on town!Pine

Caught. There is no way this is town.

The progression from "pine already was being scummy" and "If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him"
to
"My chips are on town!Pine"
is simply not possible like this if you honestly scumhunt.
Only if you pretend to scumhunt and slip up by forgetting your previous post.

[TemporalLich]

look despite pine being scummy (and me never having played with pine so idk if pine is a scum picker) I still think pine was town

[TemporalLich]

and yeah I'd rather self-vote to lynch than townread NK15 right now

[TemporalLich]

NK15's push on me rings so hollow I might as well be completely ignoring it or treating it as a meme