Mini 2091: The Purge - Game Over!

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Vote: EspressoPatronum

Peace, love, empathy.

Did you guys forget the password to Serene or Serene2?

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6 townies died in the first night I mean.

So are we looking to agree who town should shoot, before we all go off on some random bloodlust fuelled rampage then?

I think everyone should just look at this game as a cathartic release of energy and temper their expectations of winning.

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Gandalf,

Is this your first game of mafia? If not, what is your mafia experience?

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Oh wow there is more to this setup than I realized

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VOTE: Gandalf

LOVE: Avatar
HATE: Intro

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Loving the back and forth between most serene and most serene too.

Same, schizo is a good color on them

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Why do I always get OMGUS’d

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Gandalf:

Photopea.com is your friend. It is a free photoshop site (with ads), but every basic photoshop tutorial you can find will be doable on photopea.com

Upload your image via url to the site
Use the magic wand tool to get rid of any white background
Click image then scroll down to image size, change to 100x100

Viola!

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Save as png for a transparent background

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I really don’t like the fact that votes don’t remove someone from the game. :/

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I don’t feel like I’m rude to people, but others may have a different perception of my actions.

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Vote him and find out

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Might need to use the VOTE: tag, if Persivul isn’t even gonna count votes that are not the first thing for their line.

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For bold

or VOTE: - all tags actually - you need to close it with the corresponding tag. So you would close a bold tag like this [/ b] and to close a vote tag use this [/ vote].

Using bold to vote it would be:

vote: Scumbutt[/ b] - remove that space between the / and b.
Using vote to vote it would be: VOTE: Scumbutt[/ vote] - remove that space between the / and vote

There is a code select function but I am on mobile and can’t make it work for some reason.

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I really don’t like the fact that votes don’t remove someone from the game. :/

Why?

Essentially force someone to waste their shot on a specific player. Plus, strongman is going to mess with my mind on who is cleared or not.

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Yay!! Claps

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I feel like I just watched a neuron make a neural path.

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I really don’t like the fact that votes don’t remove someone from the game. :/

Well, we're here now. Got to make the best of it.
Presumably they

de facto

remove someone from the game, since if someone got a majority of players to agree that that player shouldn't get to take a night action, one of those voters will just shoot him.

I want to vote AND shoot people though.

I really don’t like the fact that votes don’t remove someone from the game. :/

Why?

Essentially force someone to waste their shot on a specific player. Plus, strongman is going to mess with my mind on who is cleared or not.

Can you elaborate on this idea for me? How would someone end up cleared?

I have to read the roles again but driving. I think I’m wrong about being able to clear someone though.

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Shhhh
This is like the perfect speed for a game

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I see no way to publicly clear anyone based on night actions. Due to the nature of the setup, any other random person may have taken the shot.

Yeah I don’t know what I was thinking

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I think last time I was in a game like this, the game was broken down into people who would shoot into a group and people who would not shoot.

Personally I’m just here for a good time not a long time

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I don’t think the math checks out because it isn’t accounting for masons from first glance.

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I don’t think the math checks out because it isn’t accounting for masons from first glance.

Lol I forgot there were masons.

I think my point stands but the odds of hitting mafia do get better. Now a random strand hits mafia 3/11 times instead of 3/13, so roughly.......... 70%.
Man I'm good.

It doesn’t matter if it hits the Strongman, so it’s 2/11 which I think is higher than 70%.

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I think objectively we should still vote for people because potentially hitting a goon is still better than not even attempting to hit a goon. Even if we hit a random townie, it is still better for town because I’m average people are wrong with their reads anyway.

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triggered.

UNVOTE: emps
VOTE: PURGE

What does this even mean

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Because the person we are going to strand is a person we already do not trust, so it doesn’t matter if they die and it definitely matters that they do not shoot. I agree if we are just choosing randomly that isn’t good, but we aren’t.

We could very much lose Day 1. Stranding someone makes that chance less, regardless of alignment.

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VOTE: TiphaineDeath

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So the Stranded gets paired with the top mason town read?

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I like that idea. I think we should try it unless someone points out a glaring issue.

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Edguf, what is your read on me?

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VOTE: Hectic

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I don’t get how everyone is reading Gandalf as scum? Very surprised he is garnering votes right now

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I think I am ok with locktown!Gandalf

I don’t think newbscum!Gandalf comes up with that plan, Menalque.

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I don’t get how everyone is reading Gandalf as scum? Very surprised he is garnering votes right now

I find him very townie but I've never been a fan of the game theory about using mathematics to break a game. Mafia is psychological to me, not math

And anyway I've seen too many people fuck up breaking strategies or get led astray

Can we hold each other when the world ends?

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Occam’s Razor. The step from going “oh crap I think I am obvious, better play it up” seems like a large one.

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TIL Gandalf is finger licking good

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What’s the story behind mastina’s babe?

Two games consecutive where she was hydraing and I was scum in both, I waited until her weekend VLAs to fakeclaim against her and get her lynched while she couldn't defend herself

Oh that’s smart

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Boring. Guess I know what I'm doing tonight.

Time to catch up on the rest of the thread.

Cross-killin each other bitch, bullet club 4 life


See you in the dead PT homie

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Edfug doesn’t seem like a newb to me :shrug:

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VOTE: Edfug

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Hmm this explains why there are so many people I don’t recognize. They aren’t alts, they’re people

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By my count I think Edfug is L-1

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Yeah I know about that game but do you not have at least some sort of instinct for how close we are to hammer?

Like when Oversoul said he thought we were at L-1 I had no idea what the count was but was are it wasn’t even at L-2

That was purposeful.

Serene is town

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It got one reaction - from Carl, which is a slot I’m having trouble reading. And I think his reaction was town. But I had been mostly town reading him before. So I guess we can scientifically conclude that Carl is town.

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Had we not already established that Serene is town?

I hadn’t. I was actually thinking they were scum when I made my request to hold each other.

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Most Serene I know this is heresy but I think Menalque is probably town here. Def recommend shooting Icon or TD though.

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DGB you wound me

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I’m gonna be really sad when I joined this game to shoot a gun and then I don’t get the chance to shoot a gun

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I’m gonna be really sad when I joined this game to shoot a gun and then I don’t get the chance to shoot a gun

Why would you not get the chance to shoot a gun?

If Most Absurdly Beautiful gets their way i will be stranded and thus unable to fire

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Not gonna lie not having a real vote is very much destroying my motivation to take this game seriously

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Hmm Tet might be scum after all

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Hmm Tet might be scum after all

You think that readslist was a pocket or..?

I don’t think it was a pocket (mafia theory wise: I don’t think Pocketing is actually a valid tactic). I think the reads’ list was an easy one to make. There were no controversial reads in that list.

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I can see Serene being scum -

but only with me

, town otherwise, so only a slight scumlean

Huh?

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Like I said, I don’t care about appeasing. But the reads you came up with seemed more like trying to mirror popular opinion than you really thinking those things

Yeah LAMIST (look at me I’m so town) is something I still don’t fully understand. Mainly because I don’t think it properly captures the specific action that people think it does. I think LAMIST is too broad.

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VOTE: TiphaineDeath

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VOTE: TiphaineDeath

I'm always happy to see that the site's tradition of bus'ing is alive and well.

I don’t bus. It’s negative EV for scums

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I honestly feel like I got what you were trying to say until you said "only a slight scumlean." Consider me very confused.
"X could only be scum with me" is a plausible thing for town to say to townread someone else. Something like "Because of X's interactions and blablabla, the only way X could be mafia is if X were partners with me, so [because I'm town] X is town."
I don't get why Serene is leaning scum to you in the world where Serene can only be scum with you.

I have a bad habit of making poor jokes which can be interpreted as scum

slips

- I invite you to look at the start of my previous games if you want some good examples.

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@Mod:

Please sent this to Carl via PM please, don't post it to the main thread)

I'm glad you referred me to your past games. I haven't verified this claim yet,

but I did notice that

edguf*

was in your first newbie game!
Since you two have some past history, why don't you both tell me what you think of the other's play.

Never mind, leaving this up for posterity in the event that game finishes before this one, but it's an ongoing game so don't actually do this lol.

(*: I can't believe I just realized this is supposed to be "fudge" backwards. I've been misspelling it the whole time.)

@all: What are the rules on posting known information from an ongoing game? Hectic has flipped in one that hasn't finished yet and I don't know the extent to which I can cite that game to make a point here. Sorry if this is already too much.

Don’t or you’ll get modkilled in both.

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Most Serene is really

pressuring

me here, and making me

sweat

with their scumread on me, which is preventing me to start

lurking

. In order to alleviate some of that pressure, I shall now place my

vote

on them:

VOTE: Most Serene

Icon:

I'm saying I'm leaning towards their anger being

faked

which is why it's a scumlean. If I was certain it was faked, it wouldn't be a lean.

This is the opposite way to get them to alleviate that pressure

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Hi everyone!
I noticed that last game 6 townies died, most of which announced they were going to shoot rather than barricade during the night, let’s try and avoid that mistake.

6 townies died in the first night I mean.

So, with the exception of the newb tell, we have a player that comes forth with information on why and how town got crushed in a previous run of this game. I'm having trouble seeing the scum motivation for these posts?

It’s more than those posts?

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Serene, just get TD with me and let the guns do the talking tonight

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TD is just as I remember. Sigh

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Carl I read your GTAKS. You are a cool person

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OK, sorry, I should probably stop.

UNVOTE: Vote

Get your butt back on that wagon

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Serene get on TD

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All I remember is that you were unfortunately on my PL list for this exact reason

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Reminder and warning to no one in particular (yet):

3) Be civil and treat other players with respect-attack the case, not the person. Mafia is a heated game, but insults, personal attacks, and bullying are not allowed. I determine what constitutes a violation. It's not up for debate.

Sorry mod. I'm laid up on the beach now and it's very Tranquilo


Other than the little monsters that kept running past real close and getting sand everywhere.

Look guys I made a project so I can enhance my calm




The universe is expanding every moment on a molecular level which means more walking around room for me

LOVE: Sandart
HATE: Your vote

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Another OMGUS, I can't say I am surprised though

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The OMGUS is strong with you

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I’m gonna be so sad if my hunch is correct

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Pretty sure his "Hunch," is that I'm scum since he hasn't actually based voting me on anything xD.

Meh, I always distrust gambits. It's so easy to just go "Oh that was me gambiting, yes, sure, let's go with that." To literally anything.

I’m voting you, so no?

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Vagueposting like it's Instagram over here... what's your hunch?

That Serene is scum :,(

They’ve been talk talk talking about their scum reads but their vote hasn’t moved from EP who they are apparently town reading

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You purge it.

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Even if Serene is scum I don’t have the heart to Strand them.

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VOTE: Hectic
TD can be town

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Delta Klim - town
Hectic - prob town. If you ignore the humour and just read the rest of it
Formerfish - not sure
Egduf - town
Menalque - poss scum?
EspressoPatronum - not sure
Most Serene - prob town
Tet - not sure
Oversoul - poss scum?
TiphaineDeath - town. Ive changed my mind on this
Iconeum - poss scum?
Carl Tuckerson - town

:goodposting:

But I’m not scum

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Just so everyone is aware we should probably consolidate our suspicions. We have about a day left before the deadline strikes.

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Kuribo could you get DGB to give her reads? I think I can read her more easily

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When did I say you ragequit a game? I think that was another player

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I remember reading it. I think FF but I need to crtl+f to find it

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Is this a Berenstrain Bears moment

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Am I going to regret putting you in my townbloc kuribo

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Am I going to regret putting you in my townbloc kuribo

Not if you know how I play scum

wut

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What gives you that impression about Serene games? I don’t think I’ve ever actually played a game with Serene.

I do think this is probably town you but I’m really

paranoid schizophrenic

nervous

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If he’s scum, definitely no
If he’s town, probably no

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Well i guess if he is a mason he’s definitely dead

But basically the first night I think people should seriously consider not shooting. Masons should definitely protect

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Please explain that read Menalque.

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Doesn’t due to mod’s vla it is going to be a couple of days before we see the

carnage

results from night 1

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Wow. Iconeum has 76 posts and I don’t think I’ve read a single one of them

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VOTE: Tet

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Why is everyone in this game scummy. I think it’s weird that Icon hard scum read Hectic but never actually voted him according to VCs. I also think his point against Hectic is so bad.

I do like his point about Gandalf though.

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Don't distract me Oversoul I'm scum hunting.

You sure about that?

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Not scum but also not trying so it might be a good idea to Strand and shoot me

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I have literally 0 grasp on this game and it’s bad

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Delta townread is also slipping. I only remember their setup discussion. If I missed anything non setup related sorry, I'm willing to look over it again with a nudge.

So annoying when my scumreads do something townie and then my townreads do something scummy :,(

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VOTE: Iconeum

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I will try in this game tonight, I promise.

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That's some wifom stuff right there

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I was actually thinking of aiming elsewhere until you said that >_>

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Who was the person who said I attributed newbscum tell to Gandalf but not anyone else? I can't find it for the life of me. I thought it was Fudge.

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Yo EP do me a solid? Go read his iso then read edfug’s iso then hop on this here wagon with us

Fair. It's mostly a rehash of Delta's arguments. I'm not sure I buy the explanation at 315 as the Gandalf vote being for pressure.

Interesting note - why did Oversoul dislike Gandalf's entrance but not mention edfug? I hate the, 'newb!scum address the thread in entry' theory fwiw, but he didn't apply it to both people.

I'm happy to swap over to edfug, but we really need to keep an eye on FF. From what I've seen, he doesn't coast as town.

Ah. I found it. This isn't what happened. Why did you think I was specifically referring to the "newb!scum address the thread in entry" theory?

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To be fair, Carl fooled me pretty hard if he is scum. I will gladly shoot him tonight though

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@Oversoul you're clearly referring to Gandalf's "hi everyone."

By his intro, I meant like all of his posts up to that point. But thank you for playing Mind Reader. I'd like my money back though.

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I don't like gambits unless I am the one doing them

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I wonder if this is a mason gambit..

VOTE: Carl

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I feel like this is a thought experiment about Iconeum re: Hectic's "slip"

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The reason I don't believe this is because Carl's original post sounds

so

fake. I will trust you father Kuribo

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Lmaoooo

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Slightly annoyed no one shot me. And why is Icon conftown?

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Damn my reads were trash

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Ya Delta’s Strategy wins us the game why the hell the goons didn’t barricade is beyond me

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Yeah idk what Carl was thinking. It didn’t look like a slip though. Maybe he wanted to get out of the game since school starts up soon

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Idk why espresso hard defended the scumslip AND THEN didn't barricade.

Lol this game.

What? You have two people claimining they shot him. Areicade doesnt matter

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I bet you EP shot FF

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EP honestly did us all a flavor by doing that. He consolidated a lot of wayward town shots in guessing

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0 percent chance strongman shot Ep

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Nah I think FF barricaded and got murdered

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WAIT

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SPONGEGAR MEME

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We lose if the mason is paired with the Strongman

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I want to be paired with Tet or the mason

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Wait guys

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I think we should nolynch to get on odds

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Fuck I think it’s too late for that fuck

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You dumb if you think im scum

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Carl was most definitely a gambit not a slip, Tet’s insistence on that is extremely scummy

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I'm definitely going to shoot you if you keep it up mate.

That’s fine baby

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I don’t want to look at that Carl post anymore. It’s literally the abyss. You will lose your minds looking at it

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I’ve lost my mind looking at it

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Hectic is the only person I trust rn this is sad

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We can’t group everyone today. That’s the issue, unless we make a triplet

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Wait the triplet solves everything I’m dumb

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I entrust the town to fudge mouse, Menalque and Tet sheep her

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Yeah that’s why I wanted evens but triplet or circle works. I would rather triplet so things are more self contained

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Wanted out of evens*

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Fudge is mason p sure

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Dang I am bad at this game

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Tiphaine I am not worthy enough to shoot you

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TD what made you shoot FF?

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Iconeum has counterclaimed Gandalf as mason.

One of those two is scum. As such, we will be directing all shots at those two. Iconeum and Gandalf will be cross shooting. Good game, everyone. Nom TD for President,

Shooting Gandalf:

Icon
Egduf
Hectic
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Shooting Icon:

Gandalf
Menalque
Tet
TiphaineDeath

VOTE: No Strand

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Tet, told you I’d shoot you

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GG, TY TD 4 WIN