Project ARCH - Epilogue

[pisskop]

nor is this pagetop.

ill protect you though

[PenguinPower]

[Tanaka]

Btw I was re:reading some past pages (haven't fully read the game yet) and I ended up embarassing myself. I guess playing mafia when you aren't in a good mood isn't a bright idea.

Sorry?

By the way my weak scum read on CK isn't bias, it's just kind of there. It might change after I read the game fully.

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 2.13

Cloudkicker-

[0]

MariaR-

[0]

KidAmn-

[0]

Rautherdir-

[5] Primate, WhemeStar, PenguinPower, Bambi Jay, Sakura Hana

PenguinPower -

[1] Pisskop

Tanaka-

[0]

Bambi Jay-

[0]

Gamma Emerald -

[0]

Chemist1422 -

[0]

Pisskop -

[2] MariaR, Almost50

RedPanda -

[0]

WhemeStar -

[0]

Oversoul -

[0]

Almost50 -

[3] RedPanda, Gamma Emerald, Oversoul

Primate -

[1] CloudKicker

Sakura Hana-

[0]

Dunnstral -

[0]

Not Voting -

Rautherdir, Chemist1422, RedPanda, Tanaka, Dunnstral

Mod Notes –

This post was hyjacked by Zaph

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Lynch.

Day 2 Ends In (expired on 2019-08-19 16:42:34).

[Primate]

I've been a bit ill the past couple of days sorry. This is mostly going to be catchup.

I will consider bambi as confirmed 3p until proven otherwise, i believe his claim because I read him 3p pretty fucking hard throughout the game on a level that i doubt could be sustained from a scum game, he just has no agenda but pure opportunism/survival, which I read as scum early on but its better explained by a 3p

Someone later asks how you can read bambi as 3p, and I didn't at the time, but in the context of now her murder fixation and general ease to wagon hints really strongly at survivor and she's been doing it since the beginning of the game. I think it's whataboutery to not include a miller in a townblock unless I'm way out of the loop and townblocks are legally binding now.

Don't have issues with massclaim.

I think the pisskop thing was annoying because it's based on something that he had no control over, and even if FTC's meta is rock solid replace out as scum, it's a dumb argument, as he could have replaced out for whatever reason and the replaced player can't argue about it. I think if you want pisskops lynched you can let a potential FTC read influence you but you really need to be coming up with reasons why pisskops is scummy.

I was wrong about chemist I guess. Makes my townread on the slot weaker.

MariaR's take on Cloud being lynched for information is bizarre at this stage.

I don't really understand why PP voted PK if he's not using the creature justification.

@Tanaka: So you have town/3p reads on everyone else then?

[Tanaka]

Primate, more or less.

They probably aren't Simotech, that is my conclusion.

[Tanaka]

I'll explain my reasoning a bit more later

[Primate]

Sure.

[PenguinPower]

I don't really understand why PP voted PK if he's not using the creature justification.

I was voting because of creature meta but then unvoted when I remembered this:

Scum creature doesn't usually get replaced though? Typically they prod dodge/low effort until they get lynched ime.

[Zaphkael]

I'm making it a votecount right now, sorry to betray you firebringer

[Bambi Jay]

I'm making it a votecount right now, sorry to betray you firebringer

Well considering he's the co-mod and has more VCs... It's time to retake control, champ.

[PenguinPower]

Snark to the mod...usually not a wise choice.

I approve.

[Rautherdir]

Okay, now that over half of the playerlist has claimed, it might be time for everyone to claim. Then we can probably PoE everything down. Having said that, I'm not going to make the problem worse and claim my own role until other people agree that a massclaim is the best course of action at this point.

[Tanaka]

Anyhow I actually put in my due diligence and

The problem I have with this Gamma/RC thing (and it is presumably just the RC head right now) is that I have little to zero reason to trust either of them. Gamma because... and RC because they're always like this and it's always infuriating and takes over the game, town or scum.

over a very large sample size, this post comes from scum an exorbitant percentage of the time.

VOTE: Kidamn

This is a good post from RC imo. I'm in synch with it.

[Primate]

I don't really understand why PP voted PK if he's not using the creature justification.

I was voting because of creature meta but then unvoted when I remembered this:

Scum creature doesn't usually get replaced though? Typically they prod dodge/low effort until they get lynched ime.

You said you preferred PK to A50 though in #3000. Regardless of whether you have a townread on A50 or it's something else, why include PK as a pref? Is this because you consider PK scummy despite thinking FTC wasn't creature? Or did you just use him as an example because people were talking about him at the time?

[Tanaka]

Okay, now that over half of the playerlist has claimed, it might be time for everyone to claim. Then we can probably PoE everything down. Having said that, I'm not going to make the problem worse and claim my own role until other people agree that a massclaim is the best course of action at this point.

Trying to draw everyone roles like this sounds rolefishy.

Rolefishy sounds scummy.

[Tanaka]

wheme whatever take you would have had on my meta is a year out of date and you couldn't even read me when your meta on me was fresh
if you're asserting that you can read me in what you perceive to be good faith then I'm going to take that as a scumclaim and pursue your lynch because that makes you either scum or a dumbass.

and you should genuinely consider yourself lucky as either alignment that I'm giving you that much of a break. i don't count my winrate in hydra games i don't have to tolerate your shit.

I'm smirking right now.

[Rautherdir]

Right now, (and especially if I have to claim due to being up for lynching) scum probably has more information then town does. The point of the massclaim is to get information so that we can use it to PoE who scum is. Th e reason you don't usually do it is because it tells scum who to target. At this point I no longer see that as being a valid reason to not mass-claim

[Primate]

I'm not sure that scans. If you think the scum have more info than the town then you're less likely to catch them out with their claims, making the whole thing less useful? Unless you're talking about co-ordinating roles?

[Rautherdir]

Yeah, if we have investigative roles then they would be able to freely share information after a mass-claim. It looks like we might have more then one protective role as well, so that should help.

[Primate]

Imho the motivation of a d2 massclaim like this needs to be to hope the scum haven't got proper false claims or they've misread some aspect of the setup. I don't think it's advantageous for co-ordinating info roles at all. One scum rb and all you've done is give them a target list.

[Rautherdir]

With the claims we have, they already have a target list. We also had a town roleblocker, so I'm not sure if scum would also have the same role. (I mean, they might.)

[Oversoul]

I feel Penguin is softing a guilty but did not act like he had a guilty at the start of this day

[PenguinPower]

I feel Penguin is softing a guilty but did not act like he had a guilty at the start of this day

You either aren't reading or are intentionally shading me...

1st post of day 2:

I don't think A50 should be lynched today, js.

Like 7th post of day 2:

But A50 would be a waste today imo.

[pisskop]

yea os is being dense.