Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[hebichan]

I will be honest, this game hasn't inspired me since the key vote besides maybe townreading Maria more and wondering if kuribo is third party.

What gives you that idea

You keep talking about wanting to be banished. Townies wanting to die in this set up is just...bad

[kuribo]

I will be honest, this game hasn't inspired me since the key vote besides maybe townreading Maria more and wondering if kuribo is third party.

What gives you that idea

You keep talking about wanting to be banished. Townies wanting to die in this set up is just...bad

I didn't say I want to be banished, I said it's inevitable


I just figured you were referring to my apathy in terms of who gets lynched, who gets keys, and who's reading who how

[hebichan]

Then lynch me


It actually increases my odds of winning

Sounds like wanting to be banished.

[Alisae]

Pretty sure implosion townreads TL so you might habe a hard time time with your plan Alisae.

I didn't come up with this plan because I SR TL but rather he's the person I would banish out of us 4 and I don't really care about who gets the key as long as TL doesn't get it. Because one of us has to get banished and its a matter of deciding who gets banished

So why did you default to TL if you didn't scumread him? I agree with the logic of course, just is your read on Implosion and GI that strong?

Pretty much also i think banishing TL is the best play since he's in the lynchpool. And given that we have to banish someone it should be him and not implo or greyice

[MariaR]

Pretty sure implosion townreads TL so you might habe a hard time time with your plan Alisae.

I didn't come up with this plan because I SR TL but rather he's the person I would banish out of us 4 and I don't really care about who gets the key as long as TL doesn't get it. Because one of us has to get banished and its a matter of deciding who gets banished

So why did you default to TL if you didn't scumread him? I agree with the logic of course, just is your read on Implosion and GI that strong?

Pretty much also i think banishing TL is the best play since he's in the lynchpool. And given that we have to banish someone it should be him and not implo or greyice

I'm fine with this outcome.

[kuribo]

Then lynch me


It actually increases my odds of winning

Sounds like wanting to be banished.

Eh I haven't decided if it does or not, I was just pissy

[implosion]

Merci, Madame!

I'm fine with banishing TL from the event.

(also i can't tell if that key is orange or yellow?)

[Alisae]

Merci, Madame!

I'm fine with banishing TL from the event.

(also i can't tell if that key is orange or yellow?)

who do you think the key should go to

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Merci, Madame!

I'm fine with banishing TL from the event.

(also i can't tell if that key is orange or yellow?)

It is

Yellow

[implosion]

ok well here's my plan
2 of {Me, Implo, GreyICE} agree to vote safety while the other votes for the key.
I think thats how we play this out because if TL votes safety, whoever votes key gets the key and banishes TL
and if TL votes key, we just give the key to whoever voted key and we banish TL

I believe this is the only strategy where 3 players in this game can force the 4th to get banished.

Of course, if we want to do that, the theoretical risks are (1) if TL goes safety we have to trust whoever takes the key to banish him, and (2) if TL goes for the key we have to trust the other two to settle it against him, and if one of them is scum/thirdparty and defects, then we might have both people claiming against each other. But that's kind of an acceptable price to pay for a public counterclaim.

I'm also fine with being the one to take the key if we do that plan. If people prefer Alisae I'm fine with that, I'd err against GI but if there's a consensus there then also shrug.

[implosion]

and since I don't think implo needs the yellow key,

Why do you think this, again?

[Alisae]

(1) if TL goes safety we have to trust whoever takes the key to banish him

I think that trust is there.

(2) if TL goes for the key we have to trust the other two to settle it against him

I doubt this will be an issue.

[TemporalLich]

and since I don't think implo needs the yellow key,

Why do you think this, again?

for some reason I thought you were a green key (you aren't, 403 backs that up), but I was still thinking you aren't in need of the yellow key either.

405 is probably the best supporting post for me saying you don't need the yellow key beyond the Town wincon.

[Not Known 15]

Alisae wanted the green key. The key should go to implosion because we already know that Alisae doesn't benefit from it.

[Plum]

Merci, Madame!

Plan looks good to me.

[kuribo]

I object to the plan

[implosion]

on what grounds, your honor

[kuribo]

None I was kidding

[kuribo]

Withdrawn

[implosion]

sustained

[hebichan]

we should probably figure out if implosion or GI need this key color. More Townies having roles unlocked is good.

[GreyICE]

Merci Madame!

This seems like fun. The only strong town read here I have is Alisae.

I do have an ability that works with yellow keys, but it's incredibly silly. I can make people swap their key with mine as long as mine is yellow. I also can just give them a yellow key if they don't have a key to swap with. Because this is super demonstrable, and not game-breaking in any way (unless I've missed something about the setup) then I'd like the key - noting I can give it to a townie with an actual real ability that uses yellow.

I'm obviously for banishing TL on general principal, although I admit to being sad we didn't bring along NK15. Not because I think he's scum (I think he's actually town) he just is the biggest distraction in this game thread and that's grinding my gears. Ah well, water under the bridge.

This also means there's resurrection mechanics just on general math principles, so c'est la vie1

[Alisae]

tbh, I don't think thats super necessary to test?

[Alisae]

if ur the person I'm giving a key too, I'm giving it to you because I TR you not because I want to test an ability.
Either way I'm defaulting my vote to safety, Implo can be the one to decide if u get the key or not.
I just don't think TL should have it

[Plum]

ok well here's my plan
2 of {Me, Implo, GreyICE} agree to vote safety while the other votes for the key.
I think thats how we play this out because if TL votes safety, whoever votes key gets the key and banishes TL
and if TL votes key, we just give the key to whoever voted key and we banish TL

if ur the person I'm giving a key too, I'm giving it to you because I TR you not because I want to test an ability.
Either way I'm defaulting my vote to safety, Implo can be the one to decide if u get the key or not.
I just don't think TL should have it

So: Alisae is voting Safety. Implo and GreyICE need to decide who's voting Key and who's voting Safety among the two of them, correct? I have a slight preference for GreyICE taking the key but the important thing is not to leave it up in the air, we have until 6:59 EDT tonight.