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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 1586, Skygazer wrote:i'd also like to point out that gobble has acted to remove pressure from drew;
Also note that they were voting each other a fair amount yesterday, but now they're back to back on my wagon.

Doubtful scum buddies would be that obvious, but it sure seems like one of them is scum trying to pocket the other.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:53 pm

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In post 1578, gobbledygook wrote: You've hardly been here. How am I supposed to interact with you if you've hardly been here? My vote was rotting on your wagon because of your extended V/LA so it was doing nothing. I voted Drew to avoid a stalling game, but once I was satisfied with his claim I moved it back to you.
Fair enough, but:
In post 1598, gobbledygook wrote:I would like it if everyone could comment on my Persivul case. :)
Now I AM here, and instead of interacting with me and trying to sort me, you're going to others to talk about me.
I will reiterate that you have not been here much so there really has not been much for me to interact with. And how am I supposed to know that you sheep?
You weren't supposed to know that. But, now I've told you about it. Instead of discussing that with me, which you seem to think is the proper way for town to sort, you're getting defensive.

Can't you see where I'd view your charge that I haven't been interacting and sorting as disingenuous coming from you?
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:58 pm

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In post 1586, Skygazer wrote:i'd also like to point out that gobble has acted to remove pressure from drew;

fake-hammer gambit -> oh don't worry you weren't hammered!
i declare intent to try and put some imminent pressure for drew to actually complete their claim w crumbs/their target -> immediate unvote
so wait what's the conclusion from this
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:09 pm

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The posts you’re quoting ARE me interacting with you Persivul. Why don’t you see that? :? I can’t interact with a wall. You hadn’t responded by the time I asked for other people’s opinions on it so I asked for further attention on the case with the hopes that it would help increase activity and also get people to examine you because I really feel like you’re flying under the radar.

What makes you think I am getting defensive? My use of And to start that last sentence?

No, I can’t really see how you see it as disingenuous. Other than the IC stuff this is the first time I’ve felt like you are genuinely interacting and contributing to the game and it’s only coming after I started to put pressure on you.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:24 pm

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Wait, Turkey.......you voted me because you thought the game was stalling? And what did you mean when you said 'guess I was right' before you voted me?
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:28 pm

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In post 1600, Persivul wrote:
In post 1586, Skygazer wrote:i'd also like to point out that gobble has acted to remove pressure from drew;
Also note that they were voting each other a fair amount yesterday, but now they're back to back on my wagon.

Doubtful scum buddies would be that obvious, but it sure seems like one of them is scum trying to pocket the other.
Can't speak for him, but like I said I thought he saw my crumbs and unvoted me. Me surviving the night, and him not blindly jumping on my wagon led me to believe he is not scum. But I do admit some of this was based off me believing he saw my crumbs.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:41 pm

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Like, what happened to your Philammon (Rick Dalton) scum read?

At the end of yesterDay, he was your second strongest scum read behind Thespio. You have completely ignored that slot toDay. Are you still scum reading him, are you not scum reading him? Why haven't you said anything about him, to him, or generally tried to even sort him?

I went through your posts to see what your activity flow has been and it is pretty weird. There is a marked decrease ebb and flow pattern to it. You post a lot then will mostly disappear for a day or so and then post a lot and then go back to lurking. It looks and more importantly
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I even did a quick chart to show it since you don't have very many posts.

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Y axis is the number of posts, X axis is the days. It isn't perfect, but I've included the data below so you can verify for yourself. I included the 1 post you had on the 4th.

Spoiler: Data
July 18 -- 9 posts
July 19 -- 2 posts
July 20 -- 14 posts
July 21 -- 3 posts
July 22 -- 1 post
July 23 -- 0 posts
July 24 -- 9 posts
July 25 -- 3 posts
July 26 -- 2 posts
July 27 to 29 Night
July 30 -- 7 posts
Aug 1 -- 1 post
Aug 1 to 4 VLA (you did have 1 post promising content on Aug 4)
August 5 -- 0 posts
August 6 -- 12 posts
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 1604, Doctor Drew wrote:Wait, Turkey.......you voted me because you thought the game was stalling? And what did you mean when you said 'guess I was right' before you voted me?
In general, if a wagon has trouble getting to L-1 or L-0 it is because it might be scum not bussing. That was what I was referencing with "guess I was right". The game was stalling so I put you at L-1 so we would at least have new information in your claim to evaluate.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:47 pm

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I know you're probably all thinking
Holy shirtballs! The Turkey can do excel!?"
, but 1606 is directed at Persivul in case it wasn't obvious.
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:08 pm

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It is actually worse than I thought because I forgot that July 27 had some day in it before Thespio was strung up and that July is a month with 31 days in it. :facepalm:

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Spoiler: Revised Persivul Data
July 18 -- 9 posts
July 19 -- 2 posts
July 20 -- 14 posts
July 21 -- 3 posts
July 22 -- 1 post
July 23 -- 0 posts
July 24 -- 9 posts
July 25 -- 3 posts
July 26 -- 2 posts
July 27 -- 0 posts
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July 30 -- 7 posts
July 31 -- 0 posts
Aug 1 -- 1 post
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Aug 5 -- 0 posts
Aug 6 -- 12 posts
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:30 pm

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Oh i like activity graphs! Do me! Do me!
I bloom in spring?
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:59 pm

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In post 1610, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh i like activity graphs! Do me! Do me!
You would be the equivalent of a 10 beats per minute ekg.


Hi5 for that extra little doc bread crumb.


Anyone?


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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:17 pm

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In post 1611, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1610, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh i like activity graphs! Do me! Do me!
You would be the equivalent of a 10 beats per minute ekg.


Hi5 for that extra little doc bread crumb.


Anyone?


I will show myself out.
Hana has more posts then you do by a mile. So if she's basically braindead, what's that make you?
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:59 pm

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VOTE COUNT 2.9
gobbledygook (3, L-3!):
Rick Dalton, Skygazer, Sakura Hana

Persivul (2):
Doctor Drew, gobbledygook
Doctor Drew (1):
Formerfish
James Brafin (1):

Formerfish (0):

Spangled (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Skygazer (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Chemist1422 (0):

Rick Dalton (0):

No-Lynch (0):


Not Voting (5):
Spangled, Chemist1422, Persivul, Gamma Emerald, James Brafin
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alive, it takes
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to lynch.
(expired on 2019-08-13 00:35:00) remain in the day.


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- Remember: Flavor is just flavor. Don't use it to make arguments.
- Chemist1422 is V/LA until Thursday, August 8th, 2019.
- Spangled is V/LA until Weekday, Month Day, Year due to being "sicker than any dog you care to name with a diarrhea-and-vomit bug"
- Skygazer is V/LA until Friday, August 9th, 2019.


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- It's debatable if Sakura Hana has recovered from their cold, and their activity is no longer being lessened.
Sakura's signature has informed me that they still have a cold.
- Rick Dalton has corrected me: They don't watch movies, they live them. I can only assume this means their activity will be lessened.
- Formerfish has informed me that they don't watch movies, they direct them and everyone in them. I can only assume this means their activity will be lessened.
- Skygazer was fairly busy today, and will be back tomorrow.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:47 pm

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In post 1612, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1611, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1610, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh i like activity graphs! Do me! Do me!
You would be the equivalent of a 10 beats per minute ekg.


Hi5 for that extra little doc bread crumb.


Anyone?


I will show myself out.
Hana has more posts then you do by a mile. So if she's basically braindead, what's that make you?
She has 193 posts I have 116. I am no math major, and don't know the conversion of posts to units of measurement.......but I wouldn't consider 77 a mile. But thanks for pulling a page out of her book and putting words in my mouth.

Also, you completely and utterly missed the point.

Someone with a 10 bpm heart rate would, on an ekg, beep.......then take a bit.....then beep......and so forth.

What I am saying is, she is here doing stuff.....then gone. Then back with 'Hey I am still active posts'......then gone.

And I didn't really say it is scummy, just an observation.....and it was somewhat a jokey post. Why are you so defensive about it?
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:09 pm

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In post 1596, Spangled wrote:
In post 1577, Rick Dalton wrote:Doctor claiming doctor
No thoughts on any of this?

I’ve already said I think Gobb/doc is scum.

I still agree with my town block. Persivul can even step back in to sample the party.
This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth

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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:15 pm

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In post 1615, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1596, Spangled wrote:
In post 1577, Rick Dalton wrote:Doctor claiming doctor
No thoughts on any of this?

I’ve already said I think Gobb/doc is scum.

I still agree with my town block. Persivul can even step back in to sample the party.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:16 pm

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He’s in the town block
This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth

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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:23 pm

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In post 1586, Skygazer wrote:i'd also like to point out that gobble has acted to remove pressure from drew;

fake-hammer gambit -> oh don't worry you weren't hammered!
i declare intent to try and put some imminent pressure for drew to actually complete their claim w crumbs/their target -> immediate unvote
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:24 pm

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In post 1592, gobbledygook wrote:Normally, I would agree that Doctor is a convenient thing for scum to claim, the thing is that scum almost never claim it. I think I was reading a mafia discussion post and a player named Radiant Cowbells made the same assertion (or maybe he refuted, can’t remember), but in Normals at least, Town doctors have been lynched at higher rates than scum fakeclaiming Doctors. Granted, I think the sample size was small (3 town doctors to 1 scum fakeclaiming).
Link the post please
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:28 pm

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In post 1615, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1596, Spangled wrote:
In post 1577, Rick Dalton wrote:Doctor claiming doctor
No thoughts on any of this?
I’ve already said I think Gobb/doc is scum.
I don’t think I can see them theatering this together as scumbuddies.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 1619, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1592, gobbledygook wrote:Normally, I would agree that Doctor is a convenient thing for scum to claim, the thing is that scum almost never claim it. I think I was reading a mafia discussion post and a player named Radiant Cowbells made the same assertion (or maybe he refuted, can’t remember), but in Normals at least, Town doctors have been lynched at higher rates than scum fakeclaiming Doctors. Granted, I think the sample size was small (3 town doctors to 1 scum fakeclaiming).
Link the post please
I'm not going to care about a post where RC talks about town docs getting strung up.

I've been in 2 (at least that I can think of off the top of my head) games recently where it was used as a fake claim and ive become blase to them. Hell, I used it as a fake claim years ago and was lynched for town to win the game.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:55 pm

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In post 1614, Doctor Drew wrote:Why are you so defensive about it?
I didnt take that part as the jokey part. And I just think its a little fucked up to talk about someone elses activity as a negative when you own is significantly lower. Would you consider 40% more posts than you as being significantly lower, or do you want to hash this out more.

If it was a joke, then fine, its just not one that you have much room to make, so when you do make it, it comes off flat and hollow.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:35 pm

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In post 1603, gobbledygook wrote:The posts you’re quoting ARE me interacting with you Persivul. Why don’t you see that? :? I can’t interact with a wall. You hadn’t responded by the time I asked for other people’s opinions on it so I asked for further attention on the case with the hopes that it would help increase activity and also get people to examine you because I really feel like you’re flying under the radar.

What makes you think I am getting defensive? My use of And to start that last sentence?

No, I can’t really see how you see it as disingenuous. Other than the IC stuff this is the first time I’ve felt like you are genuinely interacting and contributing to the game and it’s only coming after I started to put pressure on you.
Consider this post itself. First paragraph defends against the charge you're not interacting. Second paragraph defends against charge that you're being defensive. Third paragraph defends against charge of being disingenuous.

Regarding the last sentence, did you miss this?
In post 1182, Persivul wrote:I hate to make excuses, but:
- I just had a lylo game finish
- The game I'm modding just ended phase
- I'm going camping later today and won't be back until sometime Sunday

I have every intention of catching up when I get back and participating live well before end of phase. Thanks!

mod: VLA until Sun 8.4


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You're right, I hadn't been putting much time into this game. I explained why a long time ago. You can check the first two things yourself as the games are now complete. I pay a lot more attention to the game where I'm scum in a difficult lylo, than to a game where I'm town on D1/D2. Also go look at Mini 2091 The Purge. I modded that game. Over a couple days I had: one player urging others to post from a mason thread into game thread; one player posting the HOME TOWN of another player in the game thread; and one player SENDING A PM to another player. It was a shit show and took a lot of my time to straighten out. It's all in the game if you don't believe me.

So, now you think I'm "genuinely interacting and contributing to the game," and you know why that I'm only doing so now.
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:36 pm

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In post 1605, Doctor Drew wrote:Can't speak for him, but like I said I thought he saw my crumbs and unvoted me. Me surviving the night, and him not blindly jumping on my wagon led me to believe he is not scum. But I do admit some of this was based off me believing he saw my crumbs.
When you're town, do you go hunting for deep crumbs like those? I know I don't.

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