In post 1623, Persivul wrote:You're right, I hadn't been putting much time into this game. I explained why a long time ago. You can check the first two things yourself as the games are now complete. I pay a lot more attention to the game where I'm scum in a difficult lylo, than to a game where I'm town on D1/D2. Also go look at Mini 2091 The Purge. I modded that game. Over a couple days I had: one player urging others to post from a mason thread into game thread; one player posting the HOME TOWN of another player in the game thread; and one player SENDING A PM to another player. It was a shit show and took a lot of my time to straighten out. It's all in the game if you don't believe me.
So, now you think I'm "genuinely interacting and contributing to the game," and you know why that I'm only doing so now.
I will concede that you had other things going on which has affected your activity, but the crux of my original case against you still stands. You are not scumhutning. Heck, your vote on me is purely reactive. You're not being proactive. The only thing you're being proactive is against me and that is very survivalistic. You have barely gone outside of interacting with me since your other distractions have calmed down. Who are your scum reads outside of me?
In post 1625, Persivul wrote:Second...Rick replaced in, and so far he's pretty obvtown. Do you disagree? Do you think he's a high priority sort at the moment? I think you and your interactions with Drew are much higher priority at this point.
I do disagree that he is being "obvtown". I think he is being town, but calling it "obvtown" is a stretch. Again, if that really was the case, why not say something about him? Say anything about him at all? The only interaction with him that you have for the entirety of toDay is two joke posts that do nothing to imply you think he is obvtown. What makes you say that Rick is obvtown? Would you say that Sakura is obvtown?
In post 1625, Persivul wrote:Yeah, I talk about activity levels when I'm scum, too. Fact is that other games and real life happen. There's a reason we have long phases and 2-day activity timers here. Sometimes inactivity/catchups works for people's schedules.
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Activity is one of the reasons that I am suspecting you. If you notice, in my original case against you in
1538 I do not use the word activity once. What I said still applies just because you're sheeping other people. Sheeping by definition is essentially not attempting to sort.
In post 1634, Persivul wrote:Except he wouldn't have been in imminent danger of a mislynch if you hadn't put him at L-1 in the first place. The wagon might have dissolved, and the presumed doc wouldn't be outed.
I disagree with this completely. This day was stalling. It was a week to deadline and pretty much everyone in the game stopped trying. Which is a real shame. I put him at L-1 because I feared that his wagon stalling meant scum was not bussing. At the very least, I thought, we would get his claim and could evaluate it from there. The fact that he is outted I think saves the town a lot of heartache. Do you disagree that it is better to mislynch a doctor than it is for a doctor to get nightkilled?
In post 1634, Persivul wrote:And if you're town that's conf bias, aka tunneling. For scum, activity levels are always an easy push. Now that I'm here, you know you don't have that going forward, so you just cast shade by showing...I'm not even sure what you think you're showing, actually. Since you've never done it before, you have no idea if that pattern is scummy in general, or for me in particular. If you had come in and said you'd done the same for my past 10 games, there's a clear difference between my town and scum games, and this is my scum pattern, that might have been something. Or if you had done it for many people over a number of games and found it to generally be a scum pattern, that would be weaker, but still something. But coming in and doing it once, for a player who had previously noted that he had outside issues preventing him from posting as much as he would like? That's scum under pressure trying anything to build a counter wagon to his own.
You're latching on to this activity thing, but like I said, you're not trying to parse this game. I've said that from the beginning. The activity thing was just another thing that I noted when I looked deeper into your play. The fact that you are latching onto the activity is interesting to me. I think you're going hard at this angle when it wasn't a core component of my original read because you think you can easily refute it.
I don't know what type of time you think I have to go through your games and make a chart for each one, but I do not have that time. If your wiki was updated, maybe, but it isn't, so I would waste even more time trying to find games you've played in. I might be able to do it over 2-3 real life nights, but I'm not even sure you're going to give me that much time.
That said, you acknowledge that if I did this across games to get a general pattern, you could believe in it, so you
do
think there is merit to activity. Do you disagree with this statement: Scum are more likely to be less active. If so, why?
