the thread title sucked the whole game

[Garmr]

?? Why is this not Ico fishing??

Scum wouldn't need to fish at this point they would be trying to lynch fire or bob look at that blake wants both lynch blake

What are you going to do after I flip town Garmr?

If you flip town I will first laugh because I didn't think someone would write a post so shit like 837 and believe it. Then I'd look at your scum reads and see if you stumbled into a correct read by chance because after 837 i doubt you could find one using logic and facts.

But you'll flip scum because I dont think your that bad.

[schadd_]

Vote count 2.4

DrDolittle (3):

emps, the worst, Iconeum

Blake Belladonna (3):

Fire Assassin, Garmr, Gamma Emerald

Mislynch Bait (2):

bob3141, Skygazer

Iconeum (1):

DrDolittle

Fire Assassin (1):

Blake Belladonna

not voting (1):

Mislynch Bait

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. day 2 ends august 17th at 10:10 central US time; in (expired on 2019-08-17 10:10:00)

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[Fire Assassin]

Blake you are arguing two separate points that contradict:

1) I can make a decent fake claim
2) My claim is so vague and gives lots of outs to avoid full claiming.

Want to chose one and stick to it?

I never said the outs were for you to avoid claiming.

The outs are for you to avoid giving more information. This is true regardless of whether the claim is known or not, since I trust you are smart enough to be able to figure out how to do it.

"avoid giving more information" = "avoid full claiming"
You are describing the exact same thing.

If I can make a decent fake claim, why would I be scared or avoid full claiming or as you want to continue putting it "putting out more information". Either I am not good enough to make a believable fake claim, or theres nothing I am trying to avoid.

No.

No result, target went nowhere, target didn't commit the nightkill, target has no ability to kill (psychologist role), etc.

There's ways to avoid giving information regardless of what claim you end up giving. I don't buy that you are self-resolvable because of this, since stalling your own death is all you need to do this game.

If I claim this kind of information it is in effect the same as full claiming.

You aren't this fucking stupid.

[bob3141]

VOTE: Blake

Not that I think this vote is misplaced but from you it does look out of the blue. As I don't think I've seen you ever mention before now a leaning towards her being scum. Even after pressing from several players on what your reads were. At most I can find is post were you tell her that your leaning towards that. But that was all the way back on 25th july and since not much

So, what in the various cases convinced you to scum read bella. Cases that weren’t being pushed before now that actually made you decide to vote for bella.

From you iso you don’t even interact with her much. Which I find quite odd if that original lean was genuine. I would have thought you would have pushed her at least a little. Which makes me think that if were right on bella that you have much higher equity of being her partner in crime. As your attempts to interact with her have been very small.
And even if were wrong your vote and bella flips town. Your vote certainly quite sheepish and ever so opportunistic.

So again why now is it that you finally cast a vote on bella.

[bob3141]

I don't it wise to speculate on exactly what sort of role fire has and how he got the info. As I can see this only benefiting scum as it will help them fit more of the pieces around his claim.

Unless scum got really, lucky with a rolecop and found a pr in either me or emps. Even with them knowing who they failed to kill it would still be fair bit of guess work for scum. When they could simply have played space.

I just hope this isn’t just another were town are the only ones attacking the pr and scum have just swallowed it. Like in the game were nero attack on axe managed to convince him against all reason that nero was scum.

[bob3141]

I'm up here in your face calling you out. Don't misrep me bro. I ain't shading.

You don't wanna give important reads '

because you don't trust town to use that information properly

'. At the same time you are pushing FireAss for holding information back, or claiming in such a way he doesn't have to provide information.

I want your reads

Basically, yes.

Do you think town is going to win in the case that scum have already secured themselves as a townread? Town is so far tunneled on the least popular slots of the game that basically everybody else can just coast without having to go deep into anything.

Tell me that outing any scumread within that unpopular list won't get people to focus on them instead of the slots that actually have a chance to endgame.

I ask you though if you are in fact town and not how it does look to me. Why is it so important to you lynch fire today. As if he is as you claim to believe scum, are there still not 2 of his accomplices out there.

As if fire is town wouldn't the scum be trying to silence him.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Blake

Not that I think this vote is misplaced but from you it does look out of the blue. As I don't think I've seen you ever mention before now a leaning towards her being scum. Even after pressing from several players on what your reads were. At most I can find is post were you tell her that your leaning towards that. But that was all the way back on 25th july and since not much

So, what in the various cases convinced you to scum read bella. Cases that weren’t being pushed before now that actually made you decide to vote for bella.

From you iso you don’t even interact with her much. Which I find quite odd if that original lean was genuine. I would have thought you would have pushed her at least a little. Which makes me think that if were right on bella that you have much higher equity of being her partner in crime. As your attempts to interact with her have been very small.
And even if were wrong your vote and bella flips town. Your vote certainly quite sheepish and ever so opportunistic.

So again why now is it that you finally cast a vote on bella.

Blake hasn't felt like anything they've posted really made sense in the way it does when she is town
Also boredom.

[bob3141]

beware boredom

when my mason game was in auto I got fed up and hammered a townie. Was in ever so impatient mood that day. Was think like scum was obviously scum and everyone knows it. Why isn't he and the IC townie hammered him yet. The game then went on for another week till the scum was finally lynched. So I ended up waiting longer in the end

[Gamma Emerald]

Help me get into the game? Like I dont intend to read any large chunks again but maybe call out posts you find AI

[the worst]

blake show me when you arrived at me being scum

[Fire Assassin]

I think if blake is town here and mentally looking at how you approach me. It looks like you are trying to make distance with an ally.

[the worst]

i'm not sure what 1635 means, sorry.

[the worst]

i kinda think my posting today has probably done as much (little) as it's going to, though

[Fire Assassin]

i'm not sure what 1635 means, sorry.

Your approach to me, from an outside perspective looks like it could be distancing in a scum move.

I don't think your scum, but I think from someone who didn't know either yours or my alignment would look at how you approach me and could easily come to the conclusion that you are scum reading me in a way to distance and not vote me for what is weaker reasoning.

I frankly don't understand what about my day play is scummy to you, but you continue to repeat it. I don't need you to explain it though. I think your town worst.

[the worst]

easier for me to explain tomorrow.

[Fire Assassin]

Explain what?

[the worst]

explain why you're scum.

[the worst]

DrDolittle - still not towny
Garmr - probably townier than last time i evaluated
mislynch bait - still not towny
emps - fireass cleared & towny
Gamma Emerald - weird headspace, not scum by meta but i wish he was towning harder (get this is difficult in gamestate)
bob3141 - fireass cleared, playing to scum meta
the worst - quack
Blake Belladonna - waffling a lot on this
Skygazer - kinda same as gamma
Iconeum - kinda playing to what looks like town meta but i think he thinks he's posting better than he is, idk if this is AI but gth i'd call it town
Fire Assassin - blood pact

[Fire Assassin]

DrDolittle - still not towny
Garmr - probably townier than last time i evaluated
mislynch bait - still not towny
emps - fireass cleared & towny
Gamma Emerald - weird headspace, not scum by meta but i wish he was towning harder (get this is difficult in gamestate)
bob3141 - fireass cleared, playing to scum meta
the worst - quack
Blake Belladonna - waffling a lot on this
Skygazer - kinda same as gamma
Iconeum - kinda playing to what looks like town meta but i think he thinks he's posting better than he is, idk if this is AI but gth i'd call it town
Fire Assassin - blood pact

So maybe you should vote Blake?

[Fire Assassin]

explain why you're scum.

Okay.

[the worst]

{tw}
{garmr, emps}
{gamma, skyg, iconeum}
{fireass, bob, blake}
{mlb, ddl}

pretty keen to lynch one of mlb/ddl

[the worst]

DrDolittle (3): emps, the worst, Iconeum
Blake Belladonna (3): Fire Assassin, Garmr, Gamma Emerald
Mislynch Bait (2): bob3141, Skygazer
Iconeum (1): DrDolittle
Fire Assassin (1): Blake Belladonna

not voting (1):Mislynch Bait

this is such a weird vc

[Fire Assassin]

Worst, do you think i should visit you tonight?

[the worst]

DrDolittle

(3):

emps

,

the worst

,

Iconeum

Blake Belladonna

(3):

Fire Assassin

,

Garmr

,

Gamma Emerald

Mislynch Bait

(2):

bob3141

,

Skygazer

Iconeum

(1):

DrDolittle

Fire Assassin

(1):

Blake Belladonna

not voting (1):

Mislynch Bait

fireass if you had to roll the dice on one of the ddl/blake wagons being all town which one would your money be on?

[Fire Assassin]

drdolittle.

Do you think all town wagon means its scum?