Project ARCH - Epilogue

Dunnstral · Post Post #4950 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:38 am

In post 4912, KidAmn wrote:Who got serum from our gifter?

Weren't they turned into a miller several nights ago?

Bambi Jay · Post Post #4951 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:42 am

In post 4950, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4912, KidAmn wrote:Who got serum from our gifter?
Weren't they turned into a miller several nights ago?

We're talking about the one who gave 2 serum to Sakura yesterday.

Dunnstral · Post Post #4952 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:47 am

In post 4911, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 4909, Bambi Jay wrote:Honestly I think Cloud might actually have info with how he's acting. I'll see if he explains it though.
Meh, its from an old MariaR's post and im not sure i read it correctly after all

She wasn't a cop

Rautherdir · Post Post #4953 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:48 am

There's another person apparently able to give out Serum, and they gave two to Sakura on Night 2 and if Bambi is to be believe two to her on Night 3.

VOTE: Oversoul
If Bambi wants to use Serum in order to help town then I'm okay with that, it shouldn't be treated as a scum claim. Besides, we can just make sure that Bambi is on the lynch tonight and if she did get serum last night then her event will trigger from it.

CloudKicker · Post Post #4954 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:48 am

Bambi not lying would be more sus than anything, I support lies that benefit own’s wincon

CloudKicker · Post Post #4955 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:50 am

In post 4953, Rautherdir wrote:There's another person apparently able to give out Serum, and they gave two to Sakura on Night 2 and if Bambi is to be believe two to her on Night 3.

VOTE: Oversoul
If Bambi wants to use Serum in order to help town then I'm okay with that, it shouldn't be treated as a scum claim. Besides, we can just make sure that Bambi is on the lynch tonight and if she did get serum last night then her event will trigger from it.

All the roles seems doubled; letter senders, bgs, vt/bp, masons etc
Also, i disagree with this vote. Can you summarize your case on them & iso dive primate for me. Remember that you should be a public servant

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4956 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:52 am

In post 4950, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4912, KidAmn wrote:Who got serum from our gifter?
Weren't they turned into a miller several nights ago?

There's another serum vendor that gives 2 instead of 1, i received 2 serum N2 from them.

Zaphkael · Post Post #4957 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:54 am

Vote Count 4.02

Cloudkicker-

[0]

KidAmn-

[0]

Rautherdir-

[0]

Alisae -

[0]

Bambi Jay -

[1] Oversoul

Gamma Emerald -

[0]

Fish Monger -

[0]

RedPanda -

[0]

Oversoul -

[1] Rautherdir

Primate -

[1] Cloudkicker

Sakura Hana-

[0]

Dunnstral -

[0]

Not Voting -

KidAmn, Alisae, Bambi Jay, Gamma Emerald, Fish Monger, RedPanda, Primate, Sakura Hana, Dunnstral

Mod Notes –

With 12 Alive, It Takes 7 to Lynch.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2019-09-12 10:37:10).

CloudKicker · Post Post #4958 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:54 am

@sakura & dun

Hey, how does miller works in multiball?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4959 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:56 am

In post 4958, CloudKicker wrote:@sakura & dun

Hey, how does miller works in multiball?

Presumably, OS claimed he appears as simotech aligned, so i assume that's how?
Note 1: It's hard to believe that post was him lying unless he's scum and had it written for him by a scummate who's more knowledgeable about flavor
Note 2: This was before we knew Aeon was an alignment.

It's an interesting question.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4960 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:57 am

Note 3: The serum they presumably gave to Dunn never happened.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4961 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:58 am

Like there's a lot of "wtf this doesnt make sense" going in my mind with all this, but i still have a hard time believing this was faked:

In post 2082, Oversoul wrote:I am Lucy Wngard with the GenX company. My original role was a Serum Vendor. It did not require serum to activate and it did not have a serum uptake. I could target 1 person per night and give them 1 serum. Additionally, I was informed that Simotech knew of my role's existence.

N1, I chose to give 1 serum to Dunn because he was my strongest townread from my quick read of the game. I do not know if my ability was successful.

NOW drum roll ladies and gentlemen!! I am now no longer a serum vendor. Instead I am a miller and will show up as if I was aligned with Simotech (Simotech was read in the pm so I am assuming scum). I do not have any active abilities. I do not have any BP abilities. I am now just a fucking miller.

That's why I wanted to know if Dunn's thing was reflexive. I don't understand why the fuck would I be targeted would I be targeted with this ability when I just replaced in. I don't really know anyone in this game and looking through Vifam's iso it wasn't like he crumbed or anything.

Because of the strength of this ability I think the person who did this to me is on the wagon. This is where I want to hunt. Sakura, Cloud, and Dunnstral are my only townreads on that wagon. We need to purge it with fire. Of the people on that wagon, I think Almost is the most likely to be scum.

VOTE: Almost50

Along with everything that happened before it.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4962 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:59 am

Note 4: This happened when we believed Dunn to be a miller.

CloudKicker · Post Post #4963 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:01 am

In post 4962, Sakura Hana wrote:Note 4: This happened when we believed Dunn to be a miller.

True, its not an obvious effect/role to claim when an universal tr claimed miller, its easy to think that 2 miller in a game doesnt work so well

CloudKicker · Post Post #4964 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:01 am

In post 4962, Sakura Hana wrote:Note 4: This happened when we believed Dunn to be a miller.

Will you help me lynch primate sakura?

Rautherdir · Post Post #4965 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:02 am

Also, did anyone else notice that MariaR/Ankamius had immunity from serum upkeep, but no abilities that had an upkeep? That might have been just an immunity from Bambi's event (Corroborating her role, actually), or there might be the ability to gain other abilities or a factional ability to impose a serum upkeep on another player. On another note, is there anyone else from WNGD still alive? (Not counting Sakura since she was fired) I'm wondering if both the deaths being from the same company isn't just a coincidence.

p-edit:
Oversoul mentioned specifically that he shows as Simotech to a cop. Also I realized my main reasons for suspecting Oversoul aren't valid anymore. (Before Penguin's flip I thought Oversoul might be a Simotech traitor, and after that I wasn't actually sure if we had Simotech as a faction. I no longer believe a traitor would exist in this game due to Aeon and Simotech's win conditions, and we did get a flip from Simotech) UNVOTE:

Dunnstral · Post Post #4966 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:04 am

Reading a50's role it's possibly for a strongman on mariar/ankamius to have caused 2 deaths

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4967 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:04 am

Also see guys i told you that MariaR scum wouldnt flake.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4968 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:05 am

In post 4966, Dunnstral wrote:Reading a50's role it's possibly for a strongman on mariar/ankamius to have caused 2 deaths

The question is.
Why would scum kill MariaR
Why would A50 BG MariaR

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4969 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:06 am

conversely didnt A50 say he wanted to activate last night again?

Dunnstral · Post Post #4970 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:07 am

Actually I don't think that a50 was bodyguarding maria

Rautherdir · Post Post #4971 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:07 am

Simotech would kill MariaR because her posting habits strongly suggested her to be Aeon.
Why Almost would bodyguard MariaR though... I have a more difficult time understanding that.

Bambi Jay · Post Post #4972 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:07 am

In post 4968, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4966, Dunnstral wrote:Reading a50's role it's possibly for a strongman on mariar/ankamius to have caused 2 deaths
The question is.
Why would scum kill MariaR
Why would A50 BG MariaR

This is where I mention I told Fish Monger about my first track on Maria visiting Sakura, I guess.

I thought she was the Serum Vendor since she went to Sakura who announced the Serum out loud.

1 for Maria, 1 for Gamma. There you go.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4973 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:09 am

In post 4971, Rautherdir wrote:Simotech would kill MariaR because her posting habits strongly suggested her to be Aeon.

Their wincons indicate they can joint tho.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #4974 (ISO) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:10 am

In post 4972, Bambi Jay wrote:
In post 4968, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4966, Dunnstral wrote:Reading a50's role it's possibly for a strongman on mariar/ankamius to have caused 2 deaths
The question is.
Why would scum kill MariaR
Why would A50 BG MariaR
This is where I mention I told Fish Monger about my first track on Maria visiting Sakura, I guess.

I thought she was the Serum Vendor since she went to Sakura who announced the Serum out loud.

1 for Maria, 1 for Gamma. There you go.

Maria sent me a spooky message instead.