Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[Formerfish]

He flipped Tailor, not Traitor

[Spangled]

I’m leaning Skygazer.

I don’t think A50-FF were scum/scum.

I don’t want to think about Sakura tailored.

Talk us through all that, please. What was it about FF and A50's interactions that made you think they weren't partners?
And what about Sky has been scummy?

[Spangled]

Well, I have yet to read a thing., so a brief description of the game status would be much appreciated. Else, I'll be catching up later tonight.

I'm a 1-shot Tracker
Sakura is cleared by both me and the flipped cop but has a small chance of being tailored
Spangled is an IC

FF and Rick are higher townreads, leaving you and Sky in the primary PoE

Chem could have died because of this post.

If sky is scum she would have to kill one of me or Chem because we were both coming after her and a50 hard yesterday. If she kills outside of us then we both come after her again today and now we probably have rick with us as well and then the game is over.

Sky kills chem and not me because chem was cleared. Hana doesnt die because sky wants the wifom around the clear and the tailor to be out there. Rick doesnt die because hes too far down the list and spang is a live because he is rudderless at the moment.

It was Chem or me; we are cleared, but I've been so

unclear

(ba-dum-tish), which is why I am alive. No matter who scum is, they would have killed Chem.

[Formerfish]

I have a conondrum of trusting the townblock and lynching sky, or trusting my gut and not lynching sky.
Spangled, help.
Rick, FF help me whoever is the town of you, or both if you're town.

At some point you just have to take a leap of faith. Like i dont know what you want from me here, i think that scum tipped their hands yesterday and have been trying to come back ever since. I think it really is as simple as sky being the last scum here.

If we are wrong, we gained an extra lynch by hitting correctly with a50, and we can narrow the field down as well. Just means that there is a 3p lylo tomorrow, which i dont think we get to.

[Formerfish]

It was Chem or me; we are cleared, but I've been so unclear (ba-dum-tish), which is why I am alive. No matter who scum is, they would have killed Chem.

I wasnt saying that it was me over you, I was saying that Chems reads were aligned with mine, and letting us both live was something that scum wouldnt be able to do because if its sky then 2 stronger players were coming after her today with a combined effort.

Your reads have been more wishy washy, which may be on purpose to stay alive longer, but you havent been able to really do anything with your position yet, being more on the following end than the leading, so you stayed alive in hopes that whoever is scum can lead you again.

[Formerfish]

And what about Sky has been scummy?

The lolhammer on JB to end the day early
The fake hammer games she and a50 played around my lynch
PoE

[Formerfish]

No matter who scum is, they would have killed Chem.

Not true, non-sky scum would have left him alive so that he and i went after sky.

[Formerfish]

Non-sky scum would have killed you, joined forces with me and chem today against sky, kill chem, and go to 3p lylo with hana, me and rick.

Again, I dont see us getting there.

[Spangled]

It was Chem or me; we are cleared, but I've been so unclear (ba-dum-tish), which is why I am alive. No matter who scum is, they would have killed Chem.

I wasnt saying that it was me over you, I was saying that Chems reads were aligned with mine, and letting us both live was something that scum wouldnt be able to do because if its sky then 2 stronger players were coming after her today with a combined effort.

Your reads have been more wishy washy, which may be on purpose to stay alive longer, but you havent been able to really do anything with your position yet, being more on the following end than the leading, so you stayed alive in hopes that whoever is scum can lead you again.

...Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're saying that my reads have been wishy-washy and pretty rubbish so that I can stay alive... so that 'whoever is scum can lead [me] again'...
I... really don't know how to respond to such a blatant assumption of my basic stupidity...
Wow. Okay. I know my reads have been pretty bad, but I assure you that that has not been on purpose.

And I think trying to read into Chem's death was pointless; he was literally the only good choice for the NK.
Pedit: Maybe. Or maybe 'twas a WIFOM choice.

[Skygazer]

ok so former is just scum panicking bc spangled and sakura are mildly TRing his designated mislynch

[Formerfish]

I... really don't know how to respond to such a blatant assumption of my basic stupidity...
Wow. Okay. I know my reads have been pretty bad, but I assure you that that has not been on purpose.

I wasnt trying to insult you, and im sorry you took it that way.

I wasnt knocking your reads, just saying that scum would see them as an advantage to them and keep you around because of it. Im in the same boat with a little extra water in it because ive been a wagon in the game and scum is going to keep me alive as a possible mislynch as well.

You get the benefit of never being a lynch option.

[Formerfish]

ok so former is just scum panicking bc spangled and sakura are mildly TRing his designated mislynch

Nope. No panic. Just finishing thoughts from yesterday when i called a sky/a50 scum team and we lynched half of that correctly yesterday.

[Rick Dalton]

Well, I have yet to read a thing., so a brief description of the game status would be much appreciated. Else, I'll be catching up later tonight.

I'm a 1-shot Tracker
Sakura is cleared by both me and the flipped cop but has a small chance of being tailored
Spangled is an IC

FF and Rick are higher townreads, leaving you and Sky in the primary PoE

Chem could have died because of this post.

If sky is scum she would have to kill one of me or Chem because we were both coming after her and a50 hard yesterday. If she kills outside of us then we both come after her again today and now we probably have rick with us as well and then the game is over.

Sky kills chem and not me because chem was cleared. Hana doesnt die because sky wants the wifom around the clear and the tailor to be out there. Rick doesnt die because hes too far down the list and spang is a live because he is rudderless at the moment.

The fish is right. This is likely why Chemist died. It was obscure enough to.

The only reason FF could be scum is if Formerfish was going down, and they decided to give up Almost50 instead because he’s tailor. Tailor flip puts Sakura back on the table.

[Rick Dalton]

Also, Skygazer is scum because she said she had an ID on me, yet was defending A50 when I was going after him

[Skygazer]

Also, Skygazer is scum because she said she had an ID on me, yet was defending A50 when I was going after him

i thought u were scum w FF my dude

[Formerfish]

Tailor flip puts Sakura back on the table.

Then why do I kill the person who i could count on to help me lynch sky?

Why wouldnt I kill spang and go ham at sky with chem and bring you along with us?

[Rick Dalton]

I’m also not active enough for Fish to gain much merit from being paired to me like this, which FF-Myself Can’t be a possible team anymore, right?

[Rick Dalton]

Unless Sakura was Tailored, Skygazer —> FF ends this game.

Honestly, I don’t want to get into that WIFOM, even though I think there’s a chance that it happened, but that’s paranoia.

I don’t see why scum wouldn’t try harder to protect A50 there, though.

[Rick Dalton]

@Fish - dw I do believe you are town. I’m pretty sure this game ends with Sky.

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Sky

The agenda im seeing in the moves made recently point to this being scum much mre often than not. I think we lynch here and end the game.

[Rick Dalton]

Thespio (4, L-3!): Jackall711, Persivul, Dry-fit, James Brafin

Dry is gobbledygook and jackal is FF.

This isn’t all scum, Fish is town.

Also, I’d like to point out my slot wasn’t on Thespio Day 1, which flipped town, I was a main pusher of Gobb, I helped push James, and I was pushing A50...so yeah. I’ve actively pushed every scum in this game thus far, and didn’t kill town.

[Rick Dalton]

FF also doesn’t gain much by going heavy on Sky because then he just loses tomorrow.

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Skygazer

[Rick Dalton]

Maybe I’m just hard pocketed but I’m just gonna trust in the early town block

[Rick Dalton]

Although, it’s gonna be so great if we end up in 3p lylo with Fish, Me, Sakura...the town block.

That ending alone makes it so Skygazer’s the right play, because of she’s scum, we win together.