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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:50 pm

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It’s not just me, Marquis.

Pops saw it too.

It’s not a case of not reading role PM’s because Pelican was making a point to say it

And I did say it. I’ve said that multiple times, it just gets lost. :lol:
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:51 pm

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also FUCK ME i didnt do a readslist i really wanted to out of nostalgia
,,but nobody reads readslists unless theyre cherrypicking associatives ugh
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:52 pm

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I would prefer perfume over cologne pls


Pelipper I want us to both die in this game so we can queue for a funner game together and have fun. I like you and I think this one has wound up a little stupid.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:52 pm

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In post 1426, Marquis wrote:also FUCK ME i didnt do a readslist i really wanted to out of nostalgia
,,but nobody reads readslists unless theyre cherrypicking associatives ugh
Please make them rainbow flavored, and i might consider it.
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:53 pm

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In post 1427, popsofctown wrote:I would prefer perfume over cologne pls


Pelipper I want us to both die in this game so we can queue for a funner game together and have fun. I like you and I think this one has wound up a little stupid.
The cologne bit was just a reference to a gambit for him, which is how he confirmed he knew I was a vig.

@Marquis - he even confirmed he thought this earlier.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:54 pm

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I mean to be fair I would prefer you not vig me either!
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:56 pm

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in case day ends while im asleep

my personal town bloc: flavor, chandra, vecna, ...pops maybe?
town enough for me to not wanna lynch for now?: jjd, fish, day one

could be a pelican partner but otherwise good enough of a player to wanna keep them around: gork

keeping an eye on bc i think they could be scum but all my scum feelings are kind of mellow rn: pine, bingle, croag slot bc it feels like a newbie scum lurk


gotta think about motivations: penguin
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:56 pm

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In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
In post 1219, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
It's clearcut in mine
In post 1221, Perry Pelican wrote:Meaning you have a modifier that says informed?

Here is one of the interactions.

Pelican said it wasn’t clear cut, and pops and I both have it as clear cut as can possibly be.

We’re informed in our neighborhood section, and in neighborhood, we all investigate as mafia.

Our ability section, you can see in the sample role pm, also tells us that we will investigate as mafia. Pelican doesn’t have this in his because he is mafia, thus the slip.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:57 pm

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In post 1430, popsofctown wrote:I mean to be fair I would prefer you not vig me either!
I’m not gonna vig you.

I’m probably no shooting N1 based on Pelican being lock scum.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:57 pm

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In post 1429, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1427, popsofctown wrote:I would prefer perfume over cologne pls


Pelipper I want us to both die in this game so we can queue for a funner game together and have fun. I like you and I think this one has wound up a little stupid.
The cologne bit was just a reference to a gambit for him, which is how he confirmed he knew I was a vig.

@Marquis - he even confirmed he thought this earlier.
Which contradicts you saying my claim was to verify your role.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:58 pm

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In post 1427, popsofctown wrote:I would prefer perfume over cologne pls


Pelipper I want us to both die in this game so we can queue for a funner game together and have fun. I like you and I think this one has wound up a little stupid.
Maybe an open would be pretty fun.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:58 pm

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In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
Our clear cut is that we definitely do investigate as mafia because of our roles. It is our role. I understand exactly how it happened, and Pelican’s probably over it by this point, because it really is caught out on a technicality.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:58 pm

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My thing is this.

I don't completely understand the Pelican "slip." Maybe my eyes have just glazed over in the last 58 pages, but that's where I am.

I also don't understand half the tells and half the in-jokes in this game.

I don't understand current setup meta, and so my brain just glazes over the speculations.

I don't even understand what the hell "pocketing" is.

I do understand counterclaims and softing.

I'm inclined to believe FL over Perry. Even if Perry is town (and I'm not leaning that way), I do believe Flavor Leaf is probably town and earnestly believes this case. And I do believe pops possibly believes it as town as well. I don't see FL + pops tag teaming Perry as scum buddies. I don't. It's too much risk and too little reward. I could see pops as scum helping FL tunnel on a town Perry, but I don't believe that's the case here. And if the scum is pops + Perry, pops doesn't need to bus Perry right now. But... pops isn't even voting Perry.

So pops, how much do you believe in Perry being scum?
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:59 pm

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In post 1434, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1429, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1427, popsofctown wrote:I would prefer perfume over cologne pls


Pelipper I want us to both die in this game so we can queue for a funner game together and have fun. I like you and I think this one has wound up a little stupid.
The cologne bit was just a reference to a gambit for him, which is how he confirmed he knew I was a vig.

@Marquis - he even confirmed he thought this earlier.
Which contradicts you saying my claim was to verify your role.
How?

You laid the reasoning for why it wasn’t down.

You thought I was actually a gunsmith or loyal, which mean you, as scum who knew i was winking a vig towards you, were afraid of vig or gunsmith me. You confirmed my role when you claim and got a successful role Fish.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:00 pm

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In post 1431, Marquis wrote:in case day ends while im asleep

my personal town bloc: flavor, chandra, vecna, ...pops maybe?
town enough for me to not wanna lynch for now?: jjd, fish, day one

could be a pelican partner but otherwise good enough of a player to wanna keep them around: gork

keeping an eye on bc i think they could be scum but all my scum feelings are kind of mellow rn: pine, bingle, croag slot bc it feels like a newbie scum lurk


gotta think about motivations: penguin

please don't tell me you're scum who left me out because you're NKing me
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:00 pm

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In post 1432, Flavor Leaf wrote:Our ability section, you can see in the sample role pm, also tells us that we will investigate as mafia. Pelican doesn’t have this in his because he is mafia, thus the slip.
This is a fairly bold statement, and I mean it sounds like a legit thing.

And with several millers and a whole hood of millers around I cannot see somebody not stepping up to defend pelican if he was right about his claim.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:00 pm

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In post 1258, popsofctown wrote:I wasn't adamant about lynching him D1 even though it's a straight scumslip because I figure the Mafiosi that gets to dodge the cop doesn't get to be the same one that gets the scary powers like forcible caffeine addiction or roleblock.

But I guess it's probably optimal to swallow the unsporting hunt and remove whatever powers he has from the game rather than lynch something that might flip town.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:01 pm

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^^^ is at kuribo about the pelican scum thing.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:01 pm

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In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
Our clear cut is that we definitely do investigate as mafia because of our roles. It is our role. I understand exactly how it happened, and Pelican’s probably over it by this point, because it really is caught out on a technicality.
Still doesn't answer if this is because of the neighborhood. I don't know if I'm just not getting my point across or I'm just lost since no one else is curious about this.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:02 pm

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goddddd that's such a weak explanation from pops


once you start cherrypicking which scum you kill without knowing which roles are which anyway, you're being pointless


you can only lynch one at a time anyway, bearing rolecop stuff, lynching scum would be all you can do
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:02 pm

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To be fair, i think FG transcends current site meta, as do a lot of our current large theme mods.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:02 pm

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In post 1442, Fish Monger wrote:^^^ is at kuribo about the pelican scum thing.

yeah i figured, pops' explanation that "oh i'm holding out for a more powerful scum" is weaksauce
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:03 pm

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In post 1443, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
Our clear cut is that we definitely do investigate as mafia because of our roles. It is our role. I understand exactly how it happened, and Pelican’s probably over it by this point, because it really is caught out on a technicality.
Still doesn't answer if this is because of the neighborhood. I don't know if I'm just not getting my point across or I'm just lost since no one else is curious about this.

That’s why it’s a slip.

We both know it’s our role that causes it, not the neighborhood granting a shroud of power turning us into that. It’s in our ability.

If i didn’t get vanilla’d and i was force switched into another neighborhood, I’d still be a vig who investigates as mafia.
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm

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In post 1445, Flavor Leaf wrote:To be fair, i think FG transcends current site meta, as do a lot of our current large theme mods.
I've literally modded two games that FG designed and he's 1/3 of the Serene2 hydra with me and DGB

The guy is fucking brilliant with modding and good at mafia

so you do have a point
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm

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In post 1445, Flavor Leaf wrote:To be fair, i think FG transcends current site meta, as do a lot of our current large theme mods.
'Site meta' usually refers to normals and opens, imo


Themes are usually in their own league. The 'best' players usually hang out here, for instance.

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