Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[Perry Pelican]

I don't get what you mean.

[Perry Pelican]

I have some last thoughts I'll save till L-1.

[Fish Monger]

You claimed miller
FL says he knows you cant be a miller because your info does not match his
You said something about the hood affecting your infos
Nobody has come forward to collaborate this?"

[Fish Monger]

Im under the impression that the vig claim from you is false as well, simply because there would be no reason to claim it, even if true.

[Perry Pelican]

I was asking if it affected roles. That's what the whole slip thing is about.

[Fish Monger]

i will read up tomorrow

[Perry Pelican]

Im under the impression that the vig claim from you is false as well, simply because there would be no reason to claim it, even if true.

Two slots I felt were town until they dug in to this scumslip thing banded together on it idk frustration maybe. Like idk how many times I could hint to pops that I'm going to shoot her in the face if she keeps pressing false narratives before she got it so I went blunt.

[Flavor Leaf]

You were pushing that I was going to shoot her in the face, and playingin a way to make sure I did.

[kuribo]

Im under the impression that the vig claim from you is false as well, simply because there would be no reason to claim it, even if true.

Two slots I felt were town until they dug in to this scumslip thing banded together on it idk frustration maybe. Like idk how many times I could hint to pops that I'm going to shoot her in the face if she keeps pressing false narratives before she got it so I went blunt.

So they're both scum, tag teaming you on day 1?

[Flavor Leaf]

Pops, I’m going to bed soon, ready to make the hot tag?

[Perry Pelican]

Im under the impression that the vig claim from you is false as well, simply because there would be no reason to claim it, even if true.

Two slots I felt were town until they dug in to this scumslip thing banded together on it idk frustration maybe. Like idk how many times I could hint to pops that I'm going to shoot her in the face if she keeps pressing false narratives before she got it so I went blunt.

So they're both scum, tag teaming you on day 1?

Nah, I think pops believes what she's pushing. I feel FL took advantage of that with pops as a shield, it only goes sideways if I live till the night because then I'm a threat to him. If I'm lynched it's unlikely FL hangs for it despite me flipping town.

[kuribo]

If pops believes what she's pushing, how is she pushing a "false narrative" as you put it?

A false narrative implies deception with intent.

[Perry Pelican]

Then not false narrative, incorrect line of reasoning?

[Perry Pelican]

She's digging for gold with a fork.

[Flavor Leaf]

She's digging for gold with a fork.

I’m actually from a small town called Coarsegold outside of Yosemite, and elementary school we have to go over the gold rush and whatnot so we did a lot field trips since we lived in a prominent spot for it, and this is actually possible with the right setup.

[kuribo]

I was about to say that seems like an odd analogy

[Day One Wagon]

Gork, I fell like jumping ship, can you promise not to lynch me like in RFB?

[Vecna]

Wary of FL but feel I can read him if I effort, haven't decided on efforting yet. Fish and pops fall on the town side today. Ram is just town here, LNT is a good indicator of his town game and he's counterpushing in much the same way that makes you want to WK for him since he's going to ruffle feathers.

itd be great if people dobt use so many abrevs, esp if it refers to a main list.

itll make posts a lot more readable for those that are not on a lovers level of intimacy with everyone in the setup.

on a sidenote, it has become rather hard to keep on feeling like i have to scumread pops.

[Day One Wagon]

Wary of FL but feel I can read him if I effort, haven't decided on efforting yet. Fish and pops fall on the town side today. Ram is just town here, LNT is a good indicator of his town game and he's counterpushing in much the same way that makes you want to WK for him since he's going to ruffle feathers.

itd be great if people dobt use so many abrevs, esp if it refers to a main list.

itll make posts a lot more readable for those that are not on a lovers level of intimacy with everyone in the setup.

on a sidenote, it has become rather hard to keep on feeling like i have to scumread pops.

Ram is me

[Vecna]

What I'm getting at is that Miller can be a role or a modifier, and the reason I was asking was because it's useful to know what all these millers have been told in their neighborhood and do you understand what I'm saying or do I have to dumb it down?

I'll give you an example: there's a huge difference between "everyone in this neighborhood is a Ninja" and "everyone in this neighborhood has the ninja modifier."

I'll let Perry answer this

What I'm getting at is that Miller can be a role or a modifier, and the reason I was asking was because it's useful to know what all these millers have been told in their neighborhood and do you understand what I'm saying or do I have to dumb it down?

I'll give you an example: there's a huge difference between "everyone in this neighborhood is a Ninja" and "everyone in this neighborhood has the ninja modifier."

I'll let Perry answer this

Nope I'm good.

JJD asked about the slip, this is where Pelipper is outed as scum.
We are informed in our role PM that everyone in our neighborhood investigates as scum. We are not informed the reason each individual in our neighborhood investigates as scum, just that we all do.

Kuribo asked whether we each have a modifier on our roles giving us the "investigates as scum" quality, or whether we don't. In the latter case the entire neighborhood would be composed of mafia and millers, since miller is the only role that doesn't need a modifier to investigate as mafia.

Pelipper declines to answer the question and incriminate himself. If Flavor Leaf and I are both simply Millers, then it will sound fishy if he claims he is a vig with a "checks as scum" modifier or a doctor with a "checks as scum" modifier or etc. If Flavor Leaf and I are vigs/doctors/cops etc with the "checks as scum" modifier, it will sound suspicious if he claims he doesn't have a modifier. (it's actually not that suspicious if he's a miller, but he really missed the timing on his shot for claiming miller.)

In reality, I do have a modifier. The modifier is integral to my identity as my furriness and it applies even if I leave the neighborhood.

Except it also states it explicitly in the neighborhood pt. I don't know what the last line is about, I didn't know leaving neighborhoods was a thing?

ill again refer you to my posts. its a thing

[Vecna]

What I'm getting at is that Miller can be a role or a modifier, and the reason I was asking was because it's useful to know what all these millers have been told in their neighborhood and do you understand what I'm saying or do I have to dumb it down?

I'll give you an example: there's a huge difference between "everyone in this neighborhood is a Ninja" and "everyone in this neighborhood has the ninja modifier."

I'll let Perry answer this

What I'm getting at is that Miller can be a role or a modifier, and the reason I was asking was because it's useful to know what all these millers have been told in their neighborhood and do you understand what I'm saying or do I have to dumb it down?

I'll give you an example: there's a huge difference between "everyone in this neighborhood is a Ninja" and "everyone in this neighborhood has the ninja modifier."

I'll let Perry answer this

Nope I'm good.

JJD asked about the slip, this is where Pelipper is outed as scum.
We are informed in our role PM that everyone in our neighborhood investigates as scum. We are not informed the reason each individual in our neighborhood investigates as scum, just that we all do.

Kuribo asked whether we each have a modifier on our roles giving us the "investigates as scum" quality, or whether we don't. In the latter case the entire neighborhood would be composed of mafia and millers, since miller is the only role that doesn't need a modifier to investigate as mafia.

Pelipper declines to answer the question and incriminate himself. If Flavor Leaf and I are both simply Millers, then it will sound fishy if he claims he is a vig with a "checks as scum" modifier or a doctor with a "checks as scum" modifier or etc. If Flavor Leaf and I are vigs/doctors/cops etc with the "checks as scum" modifier, it will sound suspicious if he claims he doesn't have a modifier. (it's actually not that suspicious if he's a miller, but he really missed the timing on his shot for claiming miller.)

In reality, I do have a modifier. The modifier is integral to my identity as my furriness and it applies even if I leave the neighborhood.

Except it also states it explicitly in the neighborhood pt. I don't know what the last line is about, I didn't know leaving neighborhoods was a thing?

ill again refer you to my posts. its a thing

[Vecna]

I don't really like the nuke list. So maybe nuke the bottom list but switch Chandra with jjd.

Yeah, the nuke list is really poor, and if it wasn’t just a reaction test and based off actual reads, I’d say it was a scum move from scum trying to discredit specific players early not knowing how hard that would actually be with that PL.

This post.....not a favorite

[Vecna]

Well I mean you have a factional NK so yeah

Pelipper if you had read the sample role PM in the OP that actually would have explained to you that the neighborhood characteristics are Informed and not a grant of the ability, since the one in the OP fails to grant anyone in particular an ability. So you could have avoided scumclaiming that way. For next time.


hoods are kuribo hood: it happens to be the case that everyone in this hood is ninja
marquis-bingle-vecna: it happens to be the case that everyone is reflexive vanillerizer
FL-pops-Pelipper: it happens to be the case that everyone in this hood investigates as mafia

for us it is actually linked to being in the hood and not our own private role pm. if someone does target us and join us, they will also become a feflexive roleblocker / vannilizer

[Vecna]

To be fair, I’m not a miller, but it is part of my role that I investigate as Mafia, so I believe being vanilla’d does in fact take that away.

it does indeed not change the faction in your role pm

[Flavor Leaf]

To be fair, I’m not a miller, but it is part of my role that I investigate as Mafia, so I believe being vanilla’d does in fact take that away.

it does indeed not change the faction in your role pm

Pretty sure it does.
it’s specifically labeled in our ability list. Read the game, Pelican’s already outed scum.