Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[Gorkington]

i think i want this
VOTE: bingle

[popsofctown]

I feel like Gorkington is probably town
But I cannot sponsor his endeavor

[Gorkington]

Again, why are we lynching a confirmable role?

reminder that bingle was pushing this over and over without trying to produce any alternative.

feeling fake productivity vibes on it.

im probably going to throw effort at parsing fish/jjd tonight if i feel like procrastinating on more important things.

p-edit: wellp.
is it just that you still feel like pelican is the better lynch here?

[kuribo]

reminder that bingle was pushing this over and over without trying to produce any alternative.

Aren't you endorsing that very stance by voting Bingle instead?

[kuribo]

Unless you're just voting to be seen voting, by not lynching one of them you're going along with Bingle's "let the vigs Cross shoot"

And then criticizing Bingle for saying it

[Gorkington]

i dont really see how disliking bingle for detracting from a wagon without providing an alternative is an anti-endorsement of anything else he was saying.

[popsofctown]

Bingle is very scummy but Pelican has a higher probability to flip red and immediately remove some red power from the game.

I want to say "much" higher because Pelican is pretty close to confscum.
But Bingle is trying to race up there too.

[kuribo]

i dont really see how disliking bingle for detracting from a wagon without providing an alternative is an anti-endorsement of anything else he was saying.

Because you're criticizing and voting Bingle for detracting from a wagon while detracting from that same wagon.

And if you say oh well he didn't offer an alternative, it's like... neither are you. There's approximately a zero chance Bingle gets lynched today at this rate, so really you're voting Bingle for the same thing you're doing.

[kuribo]

Like I couldn't care less if you scum read Bingle because my teeth itch about the slot too


But damn at least don't be hypocritical when giving your reasoning

[popsofctown]

I can see how "lynch Bingle and let the vigs cross shoot" is different from "intend to make the vigs cross-shoot while still taking almost no stances until deadline except to write choose your own adventure books about the caffeine mechanic".

[Bingle]

Because confirming it doesn't make it town. FG likes scum vigs.

Scum vig is a fuckton of power, especially in a game where there's an alternative scum wincon anyway. Press Doubt to X.

[Gorkington]

pretend im stupid
and i need to be hit in the face with very blunt and direct reasoning why someone is scum

is there a way to convey why its almost definitely the case that pelican cant be town who just didnt check their rolePM and latched onto the PT description?

Because you're criticizing and voting Bingle for detracting from a wagon while detracting from that same wagon.

And if you say oh well he didn't offer an alternative, it's like... neither are you. There's approximately a zero chance Bingle gets lynched today at this rate, so really you're voting Bingle for the same thing you're doing.

the alternative in this case would be bingle and theres really no reason to assume theres a 0 chance that anyone is lynched when we still have 48 hours left and i literally drove a decent part of the momentum on the pelican wagon in the first place?????

[Gorkington]

and the momentum swung in like
a period of 8 hours.
so
super baffling take on someone trying to push something they think is scummy.

[popsofctown]

i dont really see how disliking bingle for detracting from a wagon without providing an alternative is an anti-endorsement of anything else he was saying.

There's approximately a zero chance Bingle gets lynched today at this rate, so really you're voting Bingle for the same thing you're doing.

This is true and I think it'd bad dayplay yet I also townread it, especially with the timing.

[Gorkington]

i literally drove a decent part of the momentum on the pelican wagon in the first place?????

this is maybe an exaggeration.
but i feel like im not exactly not confident in my ability to drive momentum on wagons.

[kuribo]

and the momentum swung in like
a period of 8 hours.
so
super baffling take on someone trying to push something they think is scummy.

So you're good with Bingle's idea of letting the vigs "cross shoot?"


Otherwise you wouldn't be trying to derail the wagon.

[Gorkington]

i mean, sure?

i never said i wasnt????

[Bingle]

Again, why are we lynching a confirmable role?

who should we be lynching bingle

and why are you not hitting people in the face to try to make that wagon happen alternatively?

Because RL?

The last time I looked, Pine and Fish Monger were the reasonable alternatives not being actively pushed by the people in the 1v1. I don't understand why the Pine wagon exists, (and asked) and I think kuri's murderboner for Fish Monger is largely NAI, but that that's still a better lynch than the fucking claimed vig on D1.

If it weren't a terrible idea for me to do so, I'd be voting there.

People I'd like to be talking about but are largely not here include: ofrhz, Croag, Kags, JJD, Pongwin, and you.

People I'm townreading fairly solidly are: DoL, kuribo.

People I'm desperately hoping are town but am largely procrastinating on until the Night Phase are: Marquis/Vecna.

People I don't want to touch until this whole mess sorts itself out are pops, FL, Perry, Chandra.

[popsofctown]

pretend im stupid
and i need to be hit in the face with very blunt and direct reasoning why someone is scum

is there a way to convey why its almost definitely the case that pelican cant be town who just didnt check their rolePM and latched onto the PT description?

Because you're criticizing and voting Bingle for detracting from a wagon while detracting from that same wagon.

And if you say oh well he didn't offer an alternative, it's like... neither are you. There's approximately a zero chance Bingle gets lynched today at this rate, so really you're voting Bingle for the same thing you're doing.

the alternative in this case would be bingle and theres really no reason to assume theres a 0 chance that anyone is lynched when we still have 48 hours left and i literally drove a decent part of the momentum on the pelican wagon in the first place?????

If you need a kicker my role has a lovely flavor to it that makes my passive dirty investigates ability dovetail with my other ability(s) and that flavor is not "spending so much time in an abandoned warehouse causes you to smell bad" or something.
So as a dirty vig it should have been similarly evocative.

[Bingle]

high effort sounding stuff

This isn't high effort. This is me being crazy busy IRL and setting up complicated games, and doing what I can with minimal effort.

I've been pretty up front with that.

[Gorkington]

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

people having real lives is TRASH!!!!!!!

[Bingle]

^^Wants to get tracked visiting and dead body and still be allowed to fakeclaim Fruit Vendor

?

Marquis is immune to tracking, because you know, immune to everything neighborhood. WTF even is this?

[Gorkington]

idk i still kind of think bingle is scum here but im a coward and its

pointless

because im only allowed to vote for pelican at this point.
so im just going to flap my arms about and absolve myself of all responsibility in this game until D2.

[Vecna]

oh I forgot I wanted to say re: kuribo, he's a player I don't particularly want to lynch because I think he generally has good townplay utility, but do want to see an actual vig call his bluff and shoot him lol

basically I don't want to read him because he puts on the angry voice as scum too and I'm susceptible to being misled by emotion

Calling for a vig to shoot an uncounterclaimed parity cop


Lmao back into the scum pile with you

I mean......

does it only count when others do it, but its fine if u do it?

[Gorkington]

i guess im also a coward because im waffling on peli partially based on the possibility of him flipping town vig too.
:V

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