Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[Marquis]

I don't like either of Bingle and JJD here fyi.

[Bingle]

Town you would NOT be "not voting" under these circumstances. You just want to appear super town, like "hey.. I've got this power and I'm not using it!"

Nope. Any me would not be using my vote power because doublevoter is negative utility for town and insane utility for scum. It's one of the worst designed roles in the game. It gives a disproportionate amount of power to the reads of one player, enables shitty lolhammers, and fucks the shit out of VCA. Note, that I have mentioned a few times who I would have been voting if I wasn't a terrible role, and currently that is you.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

1- I need no progression, and you know that well. I just get them voices talking to me.

2- By deepwolfing I mean appearing the towniest you could be, and I see ONLY 3 vote on you, so where's that half of the playerlist that's willing to lynch you?

3- You also are trying to solve ONLY using "mechanics", and you yourself told me that's a scum tell of yours. You try mechanical solves as either alignment, but limiting it to mechanics AND trying to suggest -what I see as a bad move- to the best mechanical move is explicitly scum you.

Now I would still be willing to lynch Pelican today (I'd rather not), but I had to lay down all my thoughts because the subtle moves your team has made suggest you were testing the waters to guage if it was better for you to shoot me or line me up for a late lynch (like you just did in Role Call. Maria tested the waters, then you guys decided I wasn't much of a threat so she reversed her read on me)

[Bingle]

like in my memory it was someone all like oh I was somehow mistaken I thought all hoods had daytalk. yours doesn't? ok cool moving on
ugh where

quoting this so I don't forget to look into i during RL tomorrow if we get there.

I checked, it was either you or Perry, depending on which one you're thinking of.

You had a potentially faked townslip of not realizing scum had daytalk early one which DoL and Vec both commented on.

Perry said that I was probably scum if I hadn't posted a plan for the caffeine mechanic in the neighborhood.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Nope. Any me would not be using my vote power because doublevoter is negative utility for town and insane utility for scum. It's one of the worst designed roles in the game. It gives a disproportionate amount of power to the reads of one player, enables shitty lolhammers, and fucks the shit out of VCA. Note, that I have mentioned a few times who I would have been voting if I wasn't a terrible role, and currently that is you.

Then why did you out it (if it wasn't for the sole reason to appear townie)? You could've claimed you had a post-restriction that prevented you from voting under the threat of being modkilled if you do. I would have bought that.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

And this ladies and gentlemen ends my session for today. See you after commercials (that's ion 10-20 hours)

[Bingle]

Why would I?

What could I possibly gain, as town, from lying about my confirmable role?

The argument you have is that I'm not using my role for towncred, which assumes that THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO AS TOWN.

[Bingle]

3- You also are trying to solve ONLY using "mechanics", and you yourself told me that's a scum tell of yours. You try mechanical solves as either alignment, but limiting it to mechanics AND trying to suggest -what I see as a bad move- to the best mechanical move is explicitly scum you.

Yes, lack of playing the game can be a scumtell for me if I'm not busy in RL. No, I don't argue suboptimal mechanical play. Ever. If I say I think it's the right move, it's because I think it's the right move, or at least that I think it would be the right move with the information town me has available.

I'm fairly certain I have to say that in literally every game.

[Bingle]

kuribo/pops/FL/? scumteam?

Is that... like too out there?

Are you just picking the least scummy players

No?

Towncase kuribo or pops without using the word claim.

[Day One Wagon]

That's some spicy scumteam guess there, Bingle 2 scum in miller hood, I know, I know, I shouldn't try outguess host, but daaaamn

[ofrhz]

D1L response to me "hinting" at the neighborhood is townie. Gork's is NAI but he is being lazy. ofrhz' deflected and then tried to pass me as a suspect of hers.

Where did I deflect

I’ve said why I scumread you but I don’t know why you scumread me

[Chandra Nalaar]

I'm sorry. Mafia is one of those games where generally being more confident in your reads gets you townreads and leadership cred and damn I wish I had that rn to be a better town player.

That's what I thought when I created this account

It hasn't gone so great

[Bingle]

Eh. It's almost certainly wrong. That was just an off the top of my head guess while I wasn't really caught up.

Pops is probably town on the back of Pelipper interactions, but like fuck if that's not a scummy slot outside of that.

kuri's interactions with gork don't make sense in the context of him scumreading me.

FL would have been necessarily scum with the assumption that they (pops and FL) were lying about the composition of their role PMs. Perry endorsing their version of the PM changed that, though.

[Chandra Nalaar]

Nor that badly - I do get my targets lynched eventually, havent been lynched all the way (only run up to L-2 uh... like 10 out of 15 days I've played)

But damn do I have to fight for it every single time

[ofrhz]

D1L response to me "hinting" at the neighborhood is townie. Gork's is NAI but he is being lazy. ofrhz' deflected and then tried to pass me as a suspect of hers.

Where did I deflect

I’ve said why I scumread you but I don’t know why you scumread me

Also if we’re going to start discussing about our hood amongst us now, why did you think there was only 0-1 scum in the hood when you weren’t townreading any one of us

And you explicitly stated gork was “not a townread” at the time

[Chandra Nalaar]

I don't like either of Bingle and JJD here fyi.

Relateable content

[Chandra Nalaar]

fucks the shit out of VCA

Oh no even the same players in this game are in the colored vote counts cult

[Chandra Nalaar]

Sane

[Chandra Nalaar]

kuribo/pops/FL/? scumteam?

Is that... like too out there?

Are you just picking the least scummy players

No?

Towncase kuribo or pops without using the word claim.

I've had to explain my pops TR several times already

[kuribo]

kuri's interactions with gork don't make sense in the context of him scumreading me.

I didn't say you're scum, I said you make my teeth itch, ie, I hesitate to hard townread you

[Chandra Nalaar]

I'm so tired and it's only day 1.

Please let me rest.

[Marquis]

I'm locking in kuribo town don't egg me

UNVOTE: again....I do think Perry is the most logical play. not quite ready for day to end. I'm a hypocrite yes. want to see a few more things

[Bingle]

Sane

[kuribo]

I'm so tired and it's only day 1.

Please let me rest.

Nope if I'm stuck here so are you

[Day One Wagon]

D1L response to me "hinting" at the neighborhood is townie. Gork's is NAI but he is being lazy. ofrhz' deflected and then tried to pass me as a suspect of hers.

Where did I deflect

I’ve said why I scumread you but I don’t know why you scumread me

Also if we’re going to start discussing about our hood amongst us now, why did you think there was only 0-1 scum in the hood when you weren’t townreading any one of us

And you explicitly stated gork was “not a townread” at the time

I'd say it's a mechanical guess and I agree that we have max 1 scum, it's not scum-friendly hood