micro 886: mbos6 william tatney. game ogre

[Hectic]

Why would claiming to be mafia be a scumtell?

-Hop

It certainly doesn't help town.

Are you saying it's a joke that mafia are more likely to make than town? I suppose, I, Bobby, don't know you after all, Charles. I had you confused with another good friend of mine. How DISAPPOINTING.

[Citceh]

Why would claiming to be mafia be a scumtell?

-Hop

It certainly doesn't help town.

Are you saying it's a joke that mafia are more likely to make than town? I suppose, I, Bobby, don't know you after all, Charles. I had you confused with another good friend of mine. How DISAPPOINTING.

^

[Charles510]

Are you saying it's a joke that mafia are more likely to make than town?

Yes

[Doctor Hopson]

Am I missing an obvious way it benefits mafia?

[Doctor Hopson]

Am I missing an obvious way it benefits mafia?

-Hop

How do you feel about the other comments I've made Charles? You seem to be focusing on very specific things for each player rather than a holistic take.

-Hop

[Charles510]

I'm going to STFU for a few hours.

[EspressoPatronum]

I kinda want to policy Doc H because the hydra shenanigans are going to be a pain.

Icing on the cake that others think Doc H is scummy.

Anything that ends in -Hop is definitely something I post. I think it's reasonable to ignore the rest (except for the two I forgot to do it for that are surrounded by other posts ended in -Hop).

Thanks for the clarification.

Why is it reasonable to ignore your other hydra head?

Why is other people disliking me a good sign? I'd have thought the opposite.

If I want to policy you, it helps that others find you scummy bcz the lynch is more likely to go through.

[EspressoPatronum]

Clemency feels like town that people want to buddy.
Tris and Citceh seem fine as a light read.
Espresso could be legitimate or could be positioning. Bears further reading/meta sometime.
Charles could be bad or people are taking advantage of him. Want to hear the meta reads the docs are basing their reads on.
Drew I could see as town. Want to look at their meta though.
Dolittle I dislike.

-Hop

Why do you dislike Dolittle, Hop? It looks like 102 is your Doc hydra head talking.

Can you speak to your Charles read a bit more?

[EspressoPatronum]

Hello people. I am here. Let me read the thread again and I will try to come up with some kind of insight or analysis on the game. This is like my second game of mafia in a long time, so please go easy on me. Trying to figure out how to play mafia.

Am I missing an obvious way it benefits mafia?

-Hop

How do you feel about the other comments I've made Charles? You seem to be focusing on very specific things for each player rather than a holistic take.

-Hop

@Charles, I'm '+1ing' Hop's comment re the way you're playing. Your specific responses add to your post count, but they don't seem to be generating much content.

Can you post a list of your reads? Even just a few town and a few scumleans is fine for now. Make sure to include WHY you read ppl the way you do.

[EspressoPatronum]

Macro reads list

NB - I'm not really sure how to approach hydra sorting. Imma split the personalities for now + worry about combining them later.

Town

Drew - feels town. Bit of confusion, bit of scum hunting
Doc Hop (Hopkirk) - very active.
Citceh (LvE) - reasonable and diplomatic
DrDolittle - willing to engage in discussion. Scum hunting

Null

Clemency - I agree with his posts, but he hasn't said much
Citceh (Hectic) - annoying posting style.
tris - nothing stood out as super towny

Scum pool

Mastina - lurking and blatant sheeping. Policy candidate.
Doc Hop (Doctor Watson) - derailing convos
Charles - unhelpful posts thus far. Unwillingness to engage in discussion


As a note - my D1 reads usually skew toward activity = town. Lurkers and unhelpful townies make it harder for us to catch scum later, so my general approach is to cut them early before we get to the late game.

[EspressoPatronum]

VOTE: Charles

Reasons above

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Charles

Reasons above

If this were last game I would vote you here, but you live and you learn. You are playing just like last game, and turned out you were town. So for now I will lean town on you.

But, I don't like the vote on Charles. I get what you don't like about him, but seems more NAI then anything.

And the hydras are really getting to me this game, and I guess it is the DocWat head that is bothering me the most. I don't know if I can call it scummy though.

Tris does seem different, almost seems she is just going to sit back and let town fight amongst themselves......same could be said for mastina.

And espresso, we are not policy lynching.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: tris

Just had to give the ol vote count a quick check

[Charles510]

Charles - unhelpful posts thus far. Unwillingness to engage in discussion

I am perfectly willing to engage in discussion. Let's discuss

[Citceh]

Reads:

Maybe Town - EspressoPatronum, Dr Drew
Both give me Town vibes, and are genuinely engaging with the game in a useful way.

Slightly Town - Doctor Hopson
With the exception of lots of memes, I think Hopson has been useful this game. Bobby’s opinion may differ, and he is normally better at reading Hopkirk than me. I’m on Board with policy Lynching for the OwO.

Null - DrDoLittle
Initially got townie vibes from them. The unannounced L - 1 was weird, but not really beneficial for mafia. They may have initially been avoiding conversation, but have commented on everything now in an ok-ish way.

Null - Mastina
Hasn’t posted much

Null - Charles
Getting bad vibes, but apparently he has a reputation for that so I’ll wait a little longer before judging him too harshly for that.

Slightly Mafia - Tris
Also hasn’t posted much, but I’m getting bad vibes at the moment. She has mentioned a couple of times now that she has things to say, but will only say then later.

That’s all from my confusing reads list! I hope it is helpful as promised.

- Lilimip von Egg

[Citceh]

Good wishes, everyone. It is I, Serena "Hoctic" Serene-a.

Doctor Drew:

I've noticed that several of your reads on others are based on meta from previously playing with them. Is there a recent game you could link me which had 3 or more of you in it? It would certainly be fruitful to read through such a game.

Scum pool

Mastina - lurking and blatant sheeping. Policy candidate.

I assume the "blatant sheeping" part of this read is in jest. However, why do you mafiaread Mastina for her recent inactivity since the game commenced? Is this based on previous meta with her?

I am still unhappy about this post:

I'm just going to come out and claim I'm the mafia lynchproof cop (you were close though). I know it's an odd move, but I've got a hunch this game is bastard and there's actually 7 mafia and 2 town.

-H

WTF?

VOTE: Hopson

Especially since Charles acknowledges it to be a joke here:

Are you saying it's a joke that mafia are more likely to make than town?

Yes

His initial reaction to it and vote seems over the top to me. Happy to leave my vote on Charles for the time being. That'll be all for now, if any of you are suffering from untimely stress or agitation, I recommend a healthy dose of meditation, and a prompt visit to the nearest Paranoid Gun Owner. Good day.

-Hectic/Serena

[Clemency]

Reads:

Maybe Town - EspressoPatronum, Dr Drew
Both give me Town vibes, and are genuinely engaging with the game in a useful way.

Slightly Town - Doctor Hopson
With the exception of lots of memes, I think Hopson has been useful this game. Bobby’s opinion may differ, and he is normally better at reading Hopkirk than me. I’m on Board with policy Lynching for the OwO.

Null - DrDoLittle
Initially got townie vibes from them. The unannounced L - 1 was weird, but not really beneficial for mafia. They may have initially been avoiding conversation, but have commented on everything now in an ok-ish way.

Null - Mastina
Hasn’t posted much

Null - Charles
Getting bad vibes, but apparently he has a reputation for that so I’ll wait a little longer before judging him too harshly for that.

Slightly Mafia - Tris
Also hasn’t posted much, but I’m getting bad vibes at the moment. She has mentioned a couple of times now that she has things to say, but will only say then later.

That’s all from my confusing reads list! I hope it is helpful as promised.

- Lilimip von Egg

tfw so useless people forget you're here

[Citceh]

Charles - unhelpful posts thus far. Unwillingness to engage in discussion

I am perfectly willing to engage in discussion. Let's discuss

Sure, Charles. Let's discuss.

It's bucking Bobby again. Why are you treating his "7 mafia and 2 town" claim seriously? You're a good friend of mine Charles, and we go WAY back, but seems like a flimsy reason to vote someone.

We do not go way back. I am not your friend.
I've voted people for flimsier reasons.

In fact,

VOTE: Citceh

Is this vote on me because you mafiaread me, or was it borne of frustration at Bobby insisting you knew each other?

tfw so useless people forget you're here

I'll help my associate out:

VERY Slightly Null Mafia - Not contributed much. Given out a few reads without reasoning behind them.

-Hectic/Serene-a

[Citceh]

This isn’t the first time I’ve missed someone off my list, I really need to organise my notes.
Null - Clemency
Hasn’t posted anything that seems alignment indicative to me
- L v E

[Clemency]

and i never will

[Charles510]

This isn’t the first time I’ve missed someone off my list, I really need to organise my notes.
Null - Clemency
Hasn’t posted anything that seems alignment indicative to me
- L v E

and i never will

That sounds like someone who is scummier than me for not contributing

[Clemency]

sounds like your mom

[tris]

Yeah, I think espresso's town.

[tris]

Not really getting much of a read from the Egduf head.

[tris]

Actually, I would like to know why she felt the need to unvote in [post]60[/vote]. Especially since I wasn't at L-1 anymore.