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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:04 pm

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[/color]HEAL: Gamma

The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.

HEAL: Spangled

Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 100, EspressoPatronum wrote:HEAL: Gamma
The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.

HEAL: Spangled
Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
Oh whups, I tried using Sky's formatting for the Hurt + Heal thing but I also took the colour. EBWOP.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:32 pm

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VC 1.03


Coalitions:

Alchemist21 (5): Alchemist21, EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, NC 39, RC most awesomest

Hectic (3): EspressoPatronum, Hectic, Spangled
EspressoPatronum (3): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Spangled

RC most awesomest (2): RC most awesomest, Spangled

NC 39 (1): NC 39

Gamma Emerald (0):
Clemency (0):
Lil Uzi Vert (0):
Spangled (0):

Lynch:


Lil Uzi Vert (2): Hectic, Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (7): RC most awesomest, EspressoPatronum, NC 39, Clemency, Lil Uzi Vert, Spangled, Alchemist21

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-08 18:00:00).
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:12 pm

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In post 100, EspressoPatronum wrote:[/color]HEAL: Gamma

The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.

HEAL: Spangled

Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
I’ve seen UTRs be scum, but the biggest, most-AI thing is (in my limited experience) why they end up being UTRed. I don’t know how many people here know emps, but he’s been UTRed up until around EoD2 as scum before, mostly due to tone, and a sheer number of posts, most of which were actually pretty contentless, but seemed helpful.
Townreads everyone agrees on win games, though, especially this one.

Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:13 pm

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@Alchemist
Got any reads yet?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm

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In post 89, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 83, Spangled wrote:
In post 64, NC 39 wrote:
In post 55, Hectic wrote:so since i like Espresso and
Spangled
so far:
y?


HEAL: NC 39

HURT: Spangeled
Making a nice and pointed statement there.

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Was people adding themselves to their own coalitions helpful and/or useful in that D1 town-win game?
Yes.
I have to admit, not really the answer I was expecting. Why, though?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:32 pm

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In post 105, Spangled wrote:
In post 89, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 83, Spangled wrote:
In post 64, NC 39 wrote:
In post 55, Hectic wrote:so since i like Espresso and
Spangled
so far:
y?


HEAL: NC 39

HURT: Spangeled
Making a nice and pointed statement there.

@Gamma
Was people adding themselves to their own coalitions helpful and/or useful in that D1 town-win game?
Yes.
I have to admit, not really the answer I was expecting. Why, though?
In Skitter’s game, scum!Sky made it a point of objecting to be added to any coalition, in case it failed. The other scum in that game, Urist, I think it was, did make a coalition with him in it but then pretty much flaked afterwards.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:34 pm

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In post 78, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 56, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Cool, this has finally started. I was in Skitter’s game and we actually won on D1, only to have RAS cheat us out of a much deserved win.
How did you get cheated out of the win?

Can you share with us some of the things town did well in that game that we can implement in this game?
RAS was scum IRL basically. Iow, he cheated.

Sure, we were really careful about who we put into the coalition and didn’t rush things. I had 2/3 scum right in that.

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79751&start=750

Here’s the link.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:14 pm

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i personally feel like trying to avoid setup spec in a game like coalition is pretty sus

like, i'm usually the type to promote just 'playing the game', but coalition feels so mechanic-centric that i feel it's anti-town to try to avoid that
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:15 pm

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In post 96, RC most awesomest wrote:nancy, clem, where are youuuuuuuu

-nsg
sorry i have a career now D:
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:42 pm

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@Clemency
Any reads yet?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:00 am

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In post 103, Spangled wrote: [...]

Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
My thinking on the Gamma read was this: as long as I believe their argument wasn't SvS, at least 1 of them is town. I agree that Gamma doesn't look
super
towny from the exchange, but he definitely looks more towny than LUV, meaning that he's more likely the town in a TvS scenario.

Regarding the defensiveness, I agree with Gamma. LUV's "no u" reaction wasn't helpful to anyone. In addition, I don't like LUV's answer to my question on why we shouldn't be discussing mechanics.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:57 am

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In post 82, Spangled wrote:Aye, ‘tis null. Exactly. But Hectic, to me, was making out that it was scummy... and I disagreed... and told him so...
I imagine you try and call people out on things you disagree with — I like to do that too.
My initial reaction to this was "thats not why he's voting him!" but looking back he did say.
In post 21, Hectic wrote:weakest entrance thus far imo
So I could see where you'd get that and I guess I was just projecting my own feelings.
In post 17, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 12, RC most awesomest wrote:
In post 8, Hectic wrote:this looks like fun

HEAL: Hectic, NC 39, Spangled, Alchemist, Espresso

VOTE: RC most awesomest

i can provide a few walls later if people doubt these reads
can I, without giving a long winded explanation of why these kinds of posts even made ironically throw me off and make me dislike the game, ask everyone who wants to win as town to not do this
A-fucking-men!
Still dislike that. It's buddying up to RC. Its clearly a joke and RC is being a bit of a whiney head but part of me can certainly understand how jokes can mess with one's head.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:12 am

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In post 108, Clemency wrote:like, i'm usually the type to promote just 'playing the game', but coalition feels so mechanic-centric that i feel it's anti-town to try to avoid that
There's only 1 mechanic? pass an all town coalition. Am I missing something b/c this honestly doesn't sound like some big mechanic fest?
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:29 am

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In post 104, Spangled wrote:@Alchemist
Got any reads yet?
Still think Espresso is Town. Pretty sure RCMA is Town.

I personally don’t love Gamma’s posts about LUV but I don’t think they’re really scummy.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:44 am

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I think you’re right about RCMA. I did an ISO check of both RCMA’s only scumgame, where nsg pretty much flaked and one of nsg’s more recent scumgames, where most of her posts were self-centered and defensive. She wasn’t trying to advance the game forward like she is here.
In post 35, RC most awesomest wrote:
In post 10, Alchemist21 wrote:I think the Coalition should be the 5 strongest/Towniest players not just for the obvious reasons of the D1 wincon but also as a weak investigational tool if it fails - if the Coalition fails we know there’s a deep wolf in a group where we might not otherwise suspect scum to be.
my plan always has been and likely always will be to simply pass a coalition of the towniest players – reads above anything else. i fully intend to win day one and i don't believe that making any trade off for the contingency is worth giving up a higher probability of winning.

-nsg
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:52 am

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In post 96, RC most awesomest wrote:
nancy
, clem, where are youuuuuuuu

-nsg
Was this directed to me specifically or my hydra?

I also would like to understand why Espresso is your strongest sr and why you’re tr LUV?

I’m currently tl Espresso and null on LUV, so what am I missing?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:00 am

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If I wanted to buddy up to RC I would be clamoring to sheep him.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:04 am

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What are your reads so far?
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:04 am

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In post 118, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:What are your reads so far?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:24 am

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In post 113, NC 39 wrote:
In post 108, Clemency wrote:like, i'm usually the type to promote just 'playing the game', but coalition feels so mechanic-centric that i feel it's anti-town to try to avoid that
There's only 1 mechanic? pass an all town coalition. Am I missing something b/c this honestly doesn't sound like some big mechanic fest?
i'm saying its central around this one mechanic that should be talked about
barring discussion about it is anti-town, from my perspective
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:24 am

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In post 110, Spangled wrote:@Clemency
Any reads yet?
none i'm confident enough to say
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 103, Spangled wrote:
In post 100, EspressoPatronum wrote:[/color]HEAL: Gamma

The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.

HEAL: Spangled

Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
I’ve seen UTRs be scum, but the biggest, most-AI thing is (in my limited experience) why they end up being UTRed. I don’t know how many people here know emps, but he’s been UTRed up until around EoD2 as scum before, mostly due to tone, and a sheer number of posts, most of which were actually pretty contentless, but seemed helpful.
Townreads everyone agrees on win games, though, especially this one.

Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
I like this question from Spangled
HEAL: Spangled
HEAL: Gamma Emerald as well now that I'm starting my coalition
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:56 am

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In post 106, NC 39 wrote:In Skitter’s game, scum!Sky made it a point of objecting to be added to any coalition, in case it failed. The other scum in that game, Urist, I think it was, did make a coalition with him in it but then pretty much flaked afterwards.
isn't that massively anti-town? townie's are confirmed non-scum to themselves so why sacrifice a chance of winning the game D1 for fear of being scumread for being on a failed coalition? tell me he was scumread for that please
In post 103, Spangled wrote:
In post 100, EspressoPatronum wrote:[/color]HEAL: Gamma

The Gamma v LUV disagreement looks genuine + Gamma came out of it looking more town.

HEAL: Spangled

Liking Spangled's posting style thus far. I'm not yet certain if the wide coalition read on Spangled is a good or bad thing, but I'm treating it as a good thing for now.
I’ve seen UTRs be scum, but the biggest, most-AI thing is (in my limited experience) why they end up being UTRed. I don’t know how many people here know emps, but he’s been UTRed up until around EoD2 as scum before, mostly due to tone, and a sheer number of posts, most of which were actually pretty contentless, but seemed helpful.
Townreads everyone agrees on win games, though, especially this one.

Also, about the Gamma v LUV thing, I think Gamma came out of it
somewhat
towny, but what did you think about LUV? Did you agree with Gamma on his defensiveness?
what's a UTR? ultra townread?

still liking Espresso, not as sure on Spangled but i'll leave him for now
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:58 am

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hmmm, that post is a little lazy but there was honestly nothing else I read that really sprung out as AI, i'll try again tomorrow

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