Open 765: Haunted Village (Over)

[benhalkum]

Was obviously referring to your time on this site.

Was mostly referring to the other poster. Multi-quoted you as you were able to provided my activity here accurately.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like your issue is we have no information? No lynching does nothing to fix that. And we do have information, we know the scum roles. From that we've speculated town roles, which can be sorted by analyzing if the speculation someone is doing seems genuine. So maybe do that. Or realize that no one is lying to themselves, and D1 isn't as much of a crapshoot as you think.

[Gamma Emerald]

/saltyrant

[NaCl]

Obviously no no-lynch. Based on setup spec, I don't really think we have the strongest PRs out there, given the scum's choices of Zombie.

Hey, Ben, I'd like to ask something about what you've said before...why did you think there was no set-up page, back in one of your earlier posts?

And also, could you tell me about who you think is scum?

[benhalkum]

Obviously no no-lynch. Based on setup spec, I don't really think we have the strongest PRs out there, given the scum's choices of Zombie.

Hey, Ben, I'd like to ask something about what you've said before...why did you think there was no set-up page, back in one of your earlier posts?

And also, could you tell me about who you think is scum?

I did not see the spoiler tag initially. The places I've played previously, in the first post there's a storyline type write up that kind of explains things. This being my first game in here in, well, forever and never before really participating, it was a n00b move to not look closer. TBH I was like "So weird not having anything to go off of" until I went back and looked.

As for scum, my thoughts currently is, everyone is suspect until we have more info. lol

[Platinum Phoenix]

I think Gamma and PP are both scum.
Could everyone who thinks we're scum please explain why.

- Phoenix

[Platinum Phoenix]

Your thought process described here is even more scummy than if you'd just vote and start another wagon tbh.

The reason I actually voted Ben was to spark discussion at an otherwise stagnant point in the game. Which worked.
- Phoenix

[Vorkuta]

Which worked.

Yes... it was your vote that....
What else would you like to take credit for?
Just...

And you ASK us why we think your slot is scummy

[Platinum Phoenix]

Which worked.

Yes... it was your vote that....
What else would you like to take credit for?
Just...

And you ASK us why we think your slot is scummy

I'm massively failing to see your point here.
And you still haven't said why we're scummy

- Phoenix

[Vorkuta]

-Trying to take credit for ben rejoining us (when he was clear out for IRL issues) is complete BS
-You're scummy because everything you do is scummy.
The fights you pick, the tone with which you pick the fights, the 360-moonwalk shift in your meta from "chenny-the-lurker" to "chenny-the-powerplayer" is something I want to put back on the shelf with every single post of yours.
-Your votes are trash and are on people you have a grudge/ego battle with or low-hanging-fruit that you want to mislynch ASAP.
-Your playstyle is extremely reactive and it's almost as if you show no interest in solving the game, but rather want to stir the pot and encourage infighting.

Case in point- trying to shift the BoP is lazy, especially when it's pretty damn clear why half the roster scumreads you.
Just let me take credit for CJ rejoining us, then I'll be on your wagon as well.

[Elements]

-Trying to take credit for ben rejoining us (when he was clear out for IRL issues) is complete BS

I never tried to take credit for Ben rejoining us. I said I sparked a discussion in an otherwise stagnant point in the game.
- Phoenix

[Vorkuta]

I said I sparked a discussion

you sparked discussion...
your sparked 2 posts and everything else was unrelated

[Platinum Phoenix]

-You're scummy because everything you do is scummy.

Cyclical and stupid point.

The fights you pick, the tone with which you pick the fights, the 360-moonwalk shift in your meta from "chenny-the-lurker" to "chenny-the-powerplayer" is something I want to put back on the shelf with every single post of yours.

I can't comment on Chennis' plays. We're a very dysfunctional hydra.

-Your votes are trash and are on people you have a grudge/ego battle with or low-hanging-fruit that you want to mislynch ASAP.

Can you provide the votes that relate to this because you are wrong.

- Phoenix

[Platinum Phoenix]

Spoiler:

Phoenix. Your post 596 mentions about Ben:

i don't really understand why the wagon is happening and i dont think its great. it's very easy to vote someone because they made a few shitty posts early game about jesters (17 & 28) and haven't had overall great tone. but i don't think the wagon has much substance because at EoD i doubt benhalkum will be lynched. like, a lot of stances wrt this slot feel like "im lazy and ill vote here" rather than "solvey" - a lot of votes on him feel convenient rather than solvey.

Why the sudden change?

Ah i see.
Vote count?

(I hope)

hec pls confirm kthnx

HA, don't be ridiculous. There's no way I'd spend 4 hours everyday coming up with memes. It's 9 or 10, easily.

Could someone remind me why Chenn is acting scummy this game?

-Hectic

Ben is such a lazy wagon to be parked on right now, he literally hasn't posted any content in 4 days. Looks like an easy scapellama for scum. His lynch gives us basically nothing as well.

-Hectic

So:

VOTE: Phoenix

-Hectic

Phoenix. Your post 596 mentions about Ben:

i don't really understand why the wagon is happening and i dont think its great. it's very easy to vote someone because they made a few shitty posts early game about jesters (17 & 28) and haven't had overall great tone. but i don't think the wagon has much substance because at EoD i doubt benhalkum will be lynched. like, a lot of stances wrt this slot feel like "im lazy and ill vote here" rather than "solvey" - a lot of votes on him feel convenient rather than solvey.

Why the sudden change?

That was my other head.
I want to apply pressure to him so he comes back and posts something of substance.

- Phoenix

He's already got 4 votes on him. It may not be a hydraulic press, but I'd argue that's enough pressure already to encourage him to come back. Seems like the thing stopping him from contributing is out-of-game stuff.

Why not vote somewhere else and form another wagon?

-Hectic

Most active player currently scum read us. If I tried to start a wagon people would start complaining I'm trying to start a wagon and not vote with us, thus destroying my idea of pressure. Voting for an existing wagon - ben being the only current one - I am applying the pressure I wanted to.

- Phoenix

My scum senses are tingling a bit. Your thought process described here is even more scummy than if you'd just vote and start another wagon tbh.

Changing my vote.
VOTE: Platinum Phoenix

I said I sparked a discussion

you sparked discussion...
your sparked 2 posts and everything else was unrelated

Proof to the contrary

- Phoenix

[Vorkuta]

Cyclical and stupid point.

idk its quite par for this game.
Or would you prefer the phrasing "every other post you make makes me pop a vein"?

We're a very dysfunctional hydra.

So are hoptic and yet they aren't doing as bad as you are

Can you provide the votes that relate to this because you are wrong.

oh shit you actually weren't voting the people you were picking fights with.
withdrawn

Proof to the contrary

#708- 1
#710- such discussion
#711- has nothing
#712- 2
#713- inevitable
#715- 3
#717- not in response to your ben vote

*clap clap clap*
Further proof that you're trying to retroactively inflate your """achievement/contribution""" to LAMIST away your scuminess.

[Platinum Phoenix]

Or would you prefer the phrasing "every other post you make makes me pop a vein"?

If that's the case you should get some blood pressure medication.

We're a very dysfunctional hydra.

So are hoptic and yet they aren't doing as bad as you are

Our PT is as barren as the Sahara. Hectic and Hopkirk know each others game very well.

Proof to the contrary

#708- 1
#710- such discussion
#711- has nothing
#712- 2
#713- inevitable
#715- 3
#717- not in response to your ben vote
[/quote]
Some discussion is still discussion.

- Phoenix

[Platinum Phoenix]

So what your points seem to boil down to are;
- you think we're scum so everything we say sounds scummy
- me saying I generated discussion

Such good reasons to scum read us.

- Phoenix

[Vorkuta]

If that's the case you should get some blood pressure medication.

Concern noted
Your tone and arguments are unsoothing to myself and part of the roster

Some discussion is still discussion.

SO. Let's analyze what you're doing here.
I'm telling you that you're backtracking off your ben vote which was obviously scummy, and trying to hiding behind motivating """discussion""" during a state of in-game downtime.

And instead of rebutting the point above ^, you're trying to shift the burden of proof and are derailing by making me fucking COUNT the number of discussion posts that was generated as a result of your ben vote.

Do you not see how your approach is dishonest at best and scummy at worst?

[Vorkuta]

-Your playstyle is extremely reactive and it's almost as if you show no interest in solving the game, but rather want to stir the pot and encourage infighting.

You forgot this right here which is quite a significant portion of what you guys have been doing this game.

But sure, let's reductio ad absurdum everything down to 2 measly points.

[Platinum Phoenix]

Do you not see how your approach is dishonest at best and scummy at worst?

I do now.
You were scum reading me before any of the Ben stuff so you have yet to give a reason for that other than "everything you do is scummy"

- Phoenix

[Platinum Phoenix]

-Your playstyle is extremely reactive and it's almost as if you show no interest in solving the game, but rather want to stir the pot and encourage infighting.

You forgot this right here which is quite a significant portion of what you guys have been doing this game.

But sure, let's reductio ad absurdum everything down to 2 measly points.

I think given the fact the 3? most infulencial players in the game - you, pp, gamma - have been scum reading us for most of the game justifies this.

- Phoenix

[RCEnigma]

You aren't really giving much reason to townread you and yelling why aren't you townreading me.

To your credit I think more and more Vorkuta may be scum so you've got that going for you. But I kind of want to wait for flips to really read you.

[Platinum Phoenix]

yelling why aren't you townreading me.

I'm yelling why are you scum reading me. Which is very different.
- Phoenix

[RCEnigma]

Actually going back and reading through the defense "everyone is scumreading me so I can't be scum" is bullshit when you're voting Ben, whom pretty much everyone is scumreading. I've seen like one post defending him.

[RCEnigma]

Oh. Well things like that ^