Open 765: Haunted Village (Over)

[Unstuck in Time]

Ok I am gonna try and recommit to this game. I iso'd Platinum (I'll decide who the real PP is after I figure out whether one is scum). 137 posts. I felt like all of it was light on analysis for my taste, but I recognize that I post giant things that most players don't like. Nonetheless, I felt like you could show your work alot more. I think ironically I liked your comments on the zombie. When you townread or scumread there werent really any explanations. A decent chunk of your posts were you refusing to give explanations when asked. For the reads analysis, I saw 545, 642 (I really liked), 716 felt like an honest comment on why you've been light on analysis, but the complaints about being scumread then took up a good chunk, and I thought 797 showed legitimate thoughts. But I highlighted less than 10 posts out of 137. That's not all that helpful. Certainly doesn't feel game solvey. And alot of it was shading different forms of activity. It felt hella shitposty. My partners scumreading you and I can get why. I'm lost in this game, so trying to read you overall is difficult, but I think complaining about the scumreads is a bit unmerited.

BP

[Unstuck in Time]

Ben is really fencesitty with all his posts. He can't even commit to a game theory discussion. I like where my other head put the vote. I think Ben mentioned a catch-up, but he's made posts since then without a catch-up. Is one on its way?

[Platinum Phoenix]

i think you're approaching our slot and the game in general in good faith which is why i TR you

[Platinum Phoenix]

do you not think it's a bit hypocritical of vorkuta to talk about "convenient votes" when he's voteparking on cj though?

[Unstuck in Time]

@NaCl - I can't answer your 48 question for my other head. 57 was me
I felt he got it because it felt game solvey early. I actually felt like if it continued past five pages then it was just looking for town cred, but given the issues that kept coming up and that Vork kept referring back to it, I felt like it was merited at the time.

I also didn't understand 237.

I was talking about zero escape and I observed a newbie game that you played in against my friend MadAlfred. I felt like you were pretty active there as well.

Not a whole lot to comment on here. I like that there's a reads list. I like that there's analysis in it. I think I'm gonna need a new day before I can analyze it though.

@pedit - I'm gonna try and get to Vork. I started with you but I wanna work from low post count to higher. And Vork and the other PP are at the top.

[Platinum Phoenix]

Could you possibly go back and defend your own statements from the perspective of being wrongly-accused by wrong!town?

actually

i think i have a better/more succinct answer

generally when i play town i play very aggressively early game and i prioritize being townread

however i play more conservatively in hydras early game

and a large portion of people are misreading me because a) they're not used to town chennis w/o a shit ton of room to work with and dictating the game and b) i'm not used to playing town without a shit ton of room. because when you're scum you know EXACTLY where to make room for yourself but like if you're town you generally play a bit more conservatively because you can push something bad

[Platinum Phoenix]

like i dunno

i guess ppl remember me more for a) scumgames like Gay dance and b) towngames like well really anything recent minus newbie 1946

this game is much more a newbie 1946/mini normal 2076 situation than a "chennis normal towngame situation"

[Platinum Phoenix]

idk both those games i think i deathtunneled someone wrongly and really bad.

it could be the same here, sure, but idk.

[Platinum Phoenix]

i think i probably need to reread the game in a new lens

[Unstuck in Time]

I feel like the concern about the speed of the wagon on vorkuta is fake considering it was just an rvs wagon. And I don’t like how you’re just shading an entire wagon without saying who you didn’t like on it.

VOTE: unstuck in time

-still o

this post isn't genuine but I'll bite.

Vorkuta being on the Vorkuta wagon is indeed incredibly scum-AI, but I can't help but feel Vorkuta is leanscum at worst. Considering a zombie/delayed lynchproof exists this might be feasibly interpreted as a

scumclaim

.

PenguinPower's vote is a basic RVS vote, it is NAI to the power of 1.

NaCl's RVS/RQS combo vote on Vorkuta is probably towny.

It's pretty obvious I don't like ben on the Vorkuta wagon for the vote-waffling.

RCE's vote is L-2 but a basic RVS vote... I can't give anything beyond an incredibly miniscule scum dot worth like 1/1000 scum points



TL

Weren't you townreading Vorkuta earlier?

Oh! oops! VOTE: 60 was supposed to be a vote for VOTE: Unstuck in Time! I would like you to answer my question.

Can't answer your question from post 60, that's for the other head. As for 148, I was townreading Vork early for the setup spec. I'll see where I'm at now.

Reading through the iso, I think I'm gonna need to get through the other players before I have thoughts here. Most posts were light on analysis. Only explained reads in two locations. The penguin one was meta based so I'm gonna have nothing to say there.

[Unstuck in Time]

I feel like the concern about the speed of the wagon on vorkuta is fake considering it was just an rvs wagon. And I don’t like how you’re just shading an entire wagon without saying who you didn’t like on it.

VOTE: unstuck in time

-still o

this post isn't genuine but I'll bite.

Vorkuta being on the Vorkuta wagon is indeed incredibly scum-AI, but I can't help but feel Vorkuta is leanscum at worst. Considering a zombie/delayed lynchproof exists this might be feasibly interpreted as a

scumclaim

.

PenguinPower's vote is a basic RVS vote, it is NAI to the power of 1.

NaCl's RVS/RQS combo vote on Vorkuta is probably towny.

It's pretty obvious I don't like ben on the Vorkuta wagon for the vote-waffling.

RCE's vote is L-2 but a basic RVS vote... I can't give anything beyond an incredibly miniscule scum dot worth like 1/1000 scum points



TL

Weren't you townreading Vorkuta earlier?

Oh! oops! VOTE: 60 was supposed to be a vote for VOTE: Unstuck in Time! I would like you to answer my question.

Can't answer your question from post 60, that's for the other head. As for 148, I was townreading Vork early for the setup spec. I'll see where I'm at now.

Reading through the iso, I think I'm gonna need to get through the other players before I have thoughts here. Most posts were light on analysis. Only explained reads in two locations. The penguin one was meta based so I'm gonna have nothing to say there.

This was BP

[Unstuck in Time]

Norwegian feels pretty open at the moment. Not seeing much attempt at game solving but that fits with what I've seen from their meta.

BP

[Unstuck in Time]

Beta Sapphire:
116 - don't understand the logic
130 - this post feels town
233 - also felt town
Have no thoughts on the penguin meta read
The progressions make sense. I like this iso. This feels town.

[Unstuck in Time]

BP again. I will eventually remember to sign these.

[Unstuck in Time]

This RCEnigma slot is a decent bit of content, but mostly nothing. Who is townreading them at the moment?

BP

[RCEnigma]

It'll be nothing till it's not.

As an aside I hate those kinds of posts. They always come off as asking permission to push there. Like you don't want to make a read if the majority are going to go against it.

[Unstuck in Time]

I'm not seeing alot of analysis from Hoptic. I'm seeing alot of reads disclosed but not much explanation. Why are you uneasy with Beta? And what caused the progression in your read of Phoenix from 495 to 746?

BP

Probably gonna save the last three for tomorrow.

[Unstuck in Time]

It'll be nothing till it's not.

As an aside I hate those kinds of posts. They always come off as asking permission to push there. Like you don't want to make a read if the majority are going to go against it.

That's fair. So much of this game has been steeped in meta that I was planning on asking them why, but that's an explanation that you probably won't trust so it is what it is.

BP

[Gamma Emerald]

Some discussion is still discussion.

That's like, barely any discussion though imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually going back and reading through the defense "everyone is scumreading me so I can't be scum" is bullshit when you're voting Ben, whom pretty much everyone is scumreading. I've seen like one post defending him.

Yea, I shouldn't be voting ben I think he's town.
VOTE: gamma
- Phoenix

Great post lol
I get criticized for being bad about not moving my like I should at times and while I'm just an airhead it is a valid point. So this kind of post imo comes more from scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Was that before or after you picked fights with them? Genuine question about chronology as it might help- did they scum-read you BECAUSE you were so aggressive, or did you become aggressive and escalate stuff afterwards?

PP fight started as a fun "who's the better PP" then PP started scum reading us then we started getting aggressive.
You and Gamma I think started doubting us and questioning us and it turned into scum reading and fighting at a similar rate.
That's from a quick glace at ISO's and memory
- Phoenix

Not featured in this post: an answer to the question.

[Gamma Emerald]

Most active player currently scum read us. If I tried to start a wagon people would start complaining I'm trying to start a wagon and not vote with us, thus destroying my idea of pressure. Voting for an existing wagon - ben being the only current one - I am applying the pressure I wanted to.

- Phoenix

Most active player currently scum read us. If I tried to start a wagon people would start complaining I'm trying to start a wagon and not vote with us, thus destroying my idea of pressure. Voting for an existing wagon - ben being the only current one - I am applying the pressure I wanted to.

- Phoenix

i don't like this post my partner made
My scum senses are tingling a bit. Your thought process described here is even more scummy than if you'd just vote and start another wagon tbh.

Changing my vote.
VOTE: Platinum Phoenix

but i like this even less

Yeah hold up actually. Who is this partner Asgard speaks of?

[Gamma Emerald]

Quote fixed

Oh hell no
VOTE: Plat Phoe
They've still kinda been ??? but I don't like the look of what I just saw.

[Gamma Emerald]

and why is gamma in townblock again?

Tbh I think it's mostly my 290

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok I am gonna try and recommit to this game. I iso'd Platinum (I'll decide who the real PP is after I figure out whether one is scum). 137 posts. I felt like all of it was light on analysis for my taste, but I recognize that I post giant things that most players don't like. Nonetheless, I felt like you could show your work alot more. I think ironically I liked your comments on the zombie. When you townread or scumread there werent really any explanations. A decent chunk of your posts were you refusing to give explanations when asked. For the reads analysis, I saw 545, 642 (I really liked), 716 felt like an honest comment on why you've been light on analysis, but the complaints about being scumread then took up a good chunk, and I thought 797 showed legitimate thoughts. But I highlighted less than 10 posts out of 137. That's not all that helpful. Certainly doesn't feel game solvey. And alot of it was shading different forms of activity. It felt hella shitposty. My partners scumreading you and I can get why. I'm lost in this game, so trying to read you overall is difficult, but I think complaining about the scumreads is a bit unmerited.

BP

I think if it was just Platinum I might townread it