Normal 222: Black Versus White Mafia (Endgame)

[Rick Dalton]

I only vote early when I’m scum. Where should I vote?

[Rick Dalton]

I’ve been saying all day that the two people I wanted were you and Roster, and you coming at me and taking the stance you have doesn’t change any of my thoughts towards you.

[Mumble]

I'm not asking why you aren't voting. Why don't you have a vote? You don't show up at all.

VC 3.01

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Vaultdweller

-: rosterfoster, mumble, Darth Baker, Lil Uzi Vert

Rick Dalton

-: Chickadee, Vaultdweller

vorkuta

-: Almost50

Not voting

-: johhny sno, Croag, Creature, vorkuta, Clemency
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Lynch Info

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Day 3 ends on 01/09/2019 ((expired on 2019-09-17 10:00:00)).

[Rick Dalton]

I’m in a situation where I wanna vote Mumble, but i’ll likely get mislynched in that scenario because he’d Have scum advantage.

[Rick Dalton]

I'm not asking why you aren't voting. Why don't you have a vote? You don't show up at all.

VC 3.01

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Vaultdweller

-: rosterfoster, mumble, Darth Baker, Lil Uzi Vert

Rick Dalton

-: Chickadee, Vaultdweller

vorkuta

-: Almost50

Not voting

-: johhny sno, Croag, Creature, vorkuta, Clemency
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Lynch Info

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Day 3 ends on 01/09/2019 ((expired on 2019-09-17 10:00:00)).

Oh, I got tree stumped then.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I tracked Vault to Ethos. He’s telling the truth.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! I also happen to be ascetic. There is no way you could have tracked me

VOTE: Rick Dalton

VOTE: VaultDweller

Why didn’t you claim that you are ascetic in your opening posts then?

Umm, for this exact situation?

Letting town know that you possess a negative utility modifier is far more important than trying to catch someone lying. That’s just selfish play.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Are you seriously pushing a mod error Mumble?

[Mumble]

How do we know it's a mod error and not the result of something?

[Mumble]

I looked up tree stump and the wiki says that "Instead of a normal kill, a killing role may instead turn players to Tree Stumps instead." So, I think it's a valid question.

[Rick Dalton]

Pretty sure it’s mod error. It’s a normal game.

[Rick Dalton]

I don’t think I’ve nearly controlled the game enough for people to see me as legit scum, tbh

[Rick Dalton]

Someone’s just trying to push a mislynch on me

[Rick Dalton]

I like it when you call me senorita

[Almost50]

Like, I am trying to wrap my head around everything that's been said and done here..

So, RD claimed Tacker but he really isn't. Fine. VD claimed the shot on eth0s. OK. RD says he tracked VD to eth0s (implying he does believe the claim of "1-shot Even Night Vig/1-shot JK"). VD says he is also Ascetic. RD reveals he was gambiting and had crumbed it earlier. Meanwhile, Chickadee had CC'd RD as Tracker.

Why would "Ascetic" scum!VD out town!RD when they could have kept him alive and benefited from it, knowing RD is BSing? Why would scum!VD try to lynch his o in scum!RD? Ok, why would scum!RD try to save town!VD from the axe? I can only see this as TvT (and town -yet again- managed to chase its own tail and bite it off). Chicka is obviously now unCC'd Tracker too.

Vorky says he KNOWS VD is lying about his role. If he does know that it means VD isn't Ascetic in the first place, which means VD is trying to mislynch town!RD here and is counting on the fact he can't be "tracked", but had totally missed that he still can be "targeted".

I deduce that flipping VD today is the best move. If he does flip Ascetic then Vorky is scum (who missed the fact VD claimed 1-shot abilities). If he flips scum, Vorky & RD are Town.

VOTE: VD

Sorry, mate. This is the station where you get off.

[Almost50]

Does anyone have a comment on my thought process? I didn't just post it to brag about it, y'know. It was meant to create a discussion for better analysis of the situation.

[pisskop]

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[Vorkuta]

Vorky says he KNOWS VD

Don't drag my name into this- I've never claimed anything of the sort and found myself believing VD up until very recently

[Almost50]

I KNOW that VD is lying about his role.

You are welcome to lynch me tomorrow if it flips town (it won’t).

Chickadee is probably a partner for keeping the vote on RD. Not so sure about others.

I have a feeling Mumble/RD is TvT.

My bad. Replace Vorky with roster in the main post.

[Almost50]

Vorky says he KNOWS VD

Don't drag my name into this- I've never claimed anything of the sort and found myself believing VD up until very recently

So what's your stance now?

[Vorkuta]

Same as it was before: pro-papa dalton

I'm just trying to see where there exists a universe in which these 2 town reads can be reconciled.

[Vorkuta]

It's just that if this is a coordinated play with shenanigans involved... then it feels a bit too early

[Rick Dalton]

Vorkie, you’re giving me such paranoia right now

[Rick Dalton]

Imma just climb into Vorkuta’s pocket, but I’m very aware Vorkuta’s probably scum getting a strong pocket on me

[rosterfoster]

UNVOTE:

There is some weird role stuff mixing with mod errors (I’m allowed to talk about it but I’ve not figured out how to explain it - give me some sleep and I will) which means that while I think VD is probably scum I need some clarification.

So please don’t speedlynch this until I come back.

[VaultDweller]

UNVOTE:

There is some weird role stuff mixing with mod errors (I’m allowed to talk about it but I’ve not figured out how to explain it - give me some sleep and I will) which means that while I think VD is probably scum I need some clarification.

So please don’t speedlynch this until I come back.

MVP this game is "mod error"