Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[MariaR]

@maria why am I a bad wagon?

Don't know or really care. You're gonna get yourself killed regardless whatever your alignment is. I think it's a waste of time trying to read you so I'll let others try to do it for me. So you're not a 'bad' wagon but you're not a good wagon.

B) Unless you're LLD you have no reason to vote xof because it's a meta read. You should be waiting for them to post more

This is a really poor argument and I think you should be aware of that

We're not far out of RVS here

Please don't try and tell me you're gonna try and play off your vote as RVS at this point? I doubt LLDs vote is and we can't say the same for others. I believe

you

should be aware that it's not gonna be treated as such. So, if your vote is random and you don't want it to be treated as a real vote I suggest you take it off. Why is my argument poor? Let us assume for a moment that you're correct and it's still random voting stage. My logic would still stand because the start of the wagon was clearly not RVS. Perhaps I should just wait and catch up and use my notepad so I don't waste my time with stuff like this.
Pedit: Interesting. Alright then. Good luck on whatever reaction test you appear to be trying to do.

[Firebringer]

Don't know or really care. You're gonna get yourself killed regardless whatever your alignment is.

this isn't a dance game u fuckin newb. Ur not gonna be able to take this attitude with reading me.

[Ankamius]

Legit I feel like Firebringer is just town???

[chennisden]

Maria you dont sound like your town self.

But I agree with a lot of the points you're making. Who cares if it's RVS, you're accountable for your fucking votes

Also "dont try to read me until d2" isn't great

[jjh927]

@maria why am I a bad wagon?

Don't know or really care. You're gonna get yourself killed regardless whatever your alignment is. I think it's a waste of time trying to read you so I'll let others try to do it for me. So you're not a 'bad' wagon but you're not a good wagon.

B) Unless you're LLD you have no reason to vote xof because it's a meta read. You should be waiting for them to post more

This is a really poor argument and I think you should be aware of that

We're not far out of RVS here

Please don't try and tell me you're gonna try and play off your vote as RVS at this point? I doubt LLDs vote is and we can't say the same for others. I believe

you

should be aware that it's not gonna be treated as such. So, if your vote is random and you don't want it to be treated as a real vote I suggest you take it off. Why is my argument poor? Let us assume for a moment that you're correct and it's still random voting stage. My logic would still stand because the start of the wagon was clearly not RVS. Perhaps I should just wait and catch up and use my notepad so I don't waste my time with stuff like this.
Pedit: Interesting. Alright then. Good luck on whatever reaction test you appear to be trying to do.

It's not an RVS vote and I think you're missing the point

[mastina]

BTW debated on whether or not to actually claim this, but ehhhhh, fuckit, I'll take the risk.
I'm a bulletproof vigilante with a "masonry" (read: neighborhood) with Pine.
Decided to claim because neighbor with confscum, Vig I won't use, and Pine probably already guessed the bp part, so.

[Ankamius]

^ not buying that

[chennisden]

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

[mastina]

Not sure with how willing people are on fire when it comes to that but like also
I really think Pine’s dreamteam is
Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, jjh, the worst, Katsuki, and GreyICE
And if thats the fucking team I am going to shit bricks dude

Damn. Ali got half of you. This may be more difficult than expected.

Fruit is a game mechanic, read the OP

Oh, Pine hands them out for WIFOM purposes. Gee. So Katsuki was goodvoting I see.

Pull back the wide-eyed innocence, it's awkward on you

You commented on Alisae's guess accuracy but not mine. I feel neglected.

[Ankamius]

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

why would Jingle give this role to her

[Firebringer]

BTW debated on whether or not to actually claim this, but ehhhhh, fuckit, I'll take the risk.
I'm a bulletproof vigilante with a "masonry" (read: neighborhood) with Pine.
Decided to claim because neighbor with confscum, Vig I won't use, and Pine probably already guessed the bp part, so.

who do you think is stupid enough to believe this

[Firebringer]

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

spoke too soon. lol

[jjh927]

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

why would Jingle give this role to her

Krazy's anime upick

[Ankamius]

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

why would Jingle give this role to her

Krazy's anime upick

you're telling me that jingle would give a bulletproof vigilante role to somebody who isn't going to shoot?

[Firebringer]

I chose who would be town power roles (With the exception of the masonry), ostensibly to give town the best chance possible.

(I was more concerned about fun

. Deal with it.

lol so much fun giving mastina bp and vigilante.

[jjh927]

Oh I thought you were asking about the probably real bit

[Pine]

BTW debated on whether or not to actually claim this, but ehhhhh, fuckit, I'll take the risk.
I'm a bulletproof vigilante with a "masonry" (read: neighborhood) with Pine.
Decided to claim because neighbor with confscum, Vig I won't use, and Pine probably already guessed the bp part, so.

I fucking love you. It's always beautiful watching you detonate.

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

This one right here!

[chennisden]

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

spoke too soon. lol

not what i said but you do you firecringer, you do you

[popsofctown]

If we condemn town for asking for fruit, then scum can get the powers. I realize I'm going solo on this, but y'all are gonna have to policy lynch me to keep me from asking for fruit. Hate me, I don't care.

@Pine - what does the fruit do?

Oh noes, I can't join LLD on xoflynch because I'm going to be too busy policy lynching Chickadee

If we condemn town for asking for fruit, then scum can get the powers. I realize I'm going solo on this, but y'all are gonna have to policy lynch me to keep me from asking for fruit. Hate me, I don't care.

@Pine - what does the fruit do?

Why would scum get the powers?

Also, it will be less of a policy lynch, more of a "You are acting against the interests of town and refusing to see sense which indicates that you are scum" lynch. Which is really just a regular lynch

There's no way to tell if it's true, but Pine did say if no one asks, he get's to choose who to give it to. I'm not willing to take that chance.

And As I get them, I'll be giving input on reads, and playing the game. So I'm not acting against the interests of town. FB already summarized why it would be a policy lynch. So I'm not gonna go on and on about this point.

What's your counterargument for having Alisae select a player to ask, and having only that player ask?

Anyone who is townreading me gives me the willies

Nothing I've done so far is significantly AI

May I scumread you though?

Legit I feel like Firebringer is just town???

Man, Firebringer is a lot easier to read when I'm scum. But I

think

so.



@Mastina vig is a beautiful role and if you're town I want you to change your ways and shoot all the scums.
Think about glory.
And win%.

[Chickadee]

I don't really have a counterargument. I just want fruit. I know I'm town and that's good enough for me. I'm not here to be liked. I'm here to drown in a huge game, and god damn if I'm gonna drown and be miserable, I'm gonna eat fruit.

I don't dislike the plan of Ali suggesting fruit bargainers, but there's nothing to say Pine has to go for anyone Ali suggests. And Ali doesn't have all the answers anyway.

[jjh927]

Pine can either go for who Ali suggests or choke on the stockpile of fruit he can't give out

[popsofctown]

I don't really have a counterargument. I just want fruit. I know I'm town and that's good enough for me. I'm not here to be liked. I'm here to drown in a huge game, and god damn if I'm gonna drown and be miserable, I'm gonna eat fruit.

I don't dislike the plan of Ali suggesting fruit bargainers, but there's nothing to say Pine has to go for anyone Ali suggests. And Ali doesn't have all the answers anyway.

You're using rational logic instead of superrational logic.

"There's 100 free newspapers, the sign says Take One, about fifty people will be interested today. I can take 3 extra for my kids to make paper airplanes today and there will still be plenty for everyone"
"If only I throw this plastic bag in the ocean, I won't extinct the cute dolphins, I just assume not everyone else will."


If every town aligned player adopts your approach, then every single player asks for fruit, and Pine gets to select whoever he wants, and asking for fruit in no way increases the odds a town aligned player gets a fruit, because now it's become an acceptble strategy for a scum player to ask for fruit, because everyone asks for fruit.

I think Ali can develop a townread better than flat unaltered odds.

Your approach to the game comes off kind of selfish and self-centered.

[Alisae]

I am so confused on the idea lmm pace for this game. So far It has felt pretty ideal tbh. 25 pages a day is a lot, even with a large playerlist.

25 pages means 1 page per player no?

[Alisae]

I get why people wouldn't read all that's been posted so far, but something about Chickadee's post feels funny to me. I'm not saying she's scummy, just something about the tone is registering strangely to me.

I'm not really familiar enough with everyone playing, even Pine, Jingle, and Alisae, to really speculate how they may have chosen scumteam and who would do well here, so I'm not going to speculate on that. That feels like far too much of a distraction. Same with the fruit. I think that fruit will be important later and is a good mechanic to keep track of, but it's very much going to be an incredible distraction. I don't think just Pine will use it that way, but everybody honestly could.

I realize this really isn't all that much of real substance or anything, but this is what I'm thinking so far, and I think the best thing I can do in this game is to share my thoughts. I'm not really one who builds solid readlists or has all sorts of logic to back up a lot of what I think, so apologies in advance if that's what you're looking for.

from what I’ve seen, most people who try to do this don’t do it well. I have my notes from previous iterations so I can try but generally, its not going to end up well if you don’t know what you’re doing/

[Alisae]

Not sure with how willing people are on fire when it comes to that but like also
I really think Pine’s dreamteam is
Firebringer, Gamma Emerald, jjh, the worst, Katsuki, and GreyICE
And if thats the fucking team I am going to shit bricks dude

Damn. Ali got half of you. This may be more difficult than expected.

Fruit is a game mechanic, read the OP

Oh, Pine hands them out for WIFOM purposes. Gee. So Katsuki was goodvoting I see.

Pull back the wide-eyed innocence, it's awkward on you

ok cool lets lynch in there!