Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Katsuki]

HOPE EVERYONE REALIZES WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THIS GAME TO LYNCH THE EVER ELUSIVE LEXISCUM D1 THIS GAME CAN WE NOT LET THIS CHANCE SLIP BY OUR HANDS TIA

PAGETOP

[Aristophanes]

Vote LLD?

No, I don't think I will.

Sorry for spurring that on. I didn't mean to unleash the beast, I swear.

If it's any consolation, I don't think you're undraftable, and I have a huge amount lf respect for your gameplay fond moments and many lessons have been learned in games with you, and as a direct result of you!

And I think overall my read is town on you, as I mentioned previously. Ny "I'm scared to vote LLD" was literally me kidding around!

I'll still consider what GreyICE said when rereading you, as promised. I never said it would have a bearing on my read though

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I LITERALLY GOT TAUNTED BY PINE FOR FUCKING BEING UNDRAFTABLE BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE ME FUCKING SERIOUSLY AND IGNORED IT BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE STUPID FOR EVEN DISCUSSING PINE, BUT APPARENTLY HE'S FUCKING PSYCHIC BECAUSE I'M LITERALLY SAT HERE WITH TWO SCUM UNDER MY BOOT, DOING ACTUAL LITERAL SCUMMY THINGS UNDER MY WATCH, AND Y'ALL LIKE.

Sure I'll buy xof

but the jjf vote was fucking trash

and you're not town if you made it

You really don't think that dude's votes are scummy?

I literally gave reason. I didn't just vote him cause he was pissing me off.

I showed people his votes.

He reacted to defend himself.

I pressed on it.

He reacted poorly.

I voted to see how it would go, and because I thought he was scum.

Did you even bother to read the post I made about his vote progression or the ISO I did on it?

[jjh927]

Oh shit it's Krazy don't leave

VOTE: Krazy

Are you questioning the party train?

Yeah I reckon you're a solid scumpick by Pine although nobody has really touched on that. Perhaps especially because nobody has really touched on that. And you've done fuck all to convince otherwise

[Katsuki]

ARI THERES A FINE LINE BETWEEN BEING NICE AND BEING A FOOL

LEXI IS A JOY TO PLAY WITH BUT FEELINGS SHOULDNT PRECLUDE YOU FROM LYNCHING HER WHEN SCUM

ILL ASSUME PINE DRAFTED YOU AGAIN IF I DONT SEE A VOTE IN YOUR NEXT POST ARI

[Aristophanes]

Kats, are you a Lexi Pro? Because Lexiscum isn't in my Lexicon, though it sounds like it might be one.

[Katsuki]

YES

SHEEP ME ARI IM GIVING YOU ONE MORE POST TO VOTE

[Aristophanes]

ARI THERES A FINE LINE BETWEEN BEING NICE AND BEING A FOOL

LEXI IS A JOY TO PLAY WITH BUT FEELINGS SHOULDNT PRECLUDE YOU FROM LYNCHING HER WHEN SCUM

ILL ASSUME PINE DRAFTED YOU AGAIN IF I DONT SEE A VOTE IN YOUR NEXT POST ARI

Oh, I got ninja'd!
Whoops! XD

I guess LLD and I are scummates. You've got me!

[Katsuki]

WELL THATS MOST UNFORTUNATE AINT IT

[Aristophanes]

YES

SHEEP ME ARI IM GIVING YOU ONE MORE POST TO VOTE

Whoops, I got ninja'd again...

This really is not working out in my favour! :O

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: Krazy

VOTE: Firebringer

Gonna go back to voting Krazy

VOTE: Krazy

VOTE: Ari

Would have kept my vote on Krazy since I think he was a bit sketch but Ari is far worse

It's one of the 3 valid reasons Mastina could have for putting me near the bottom of her readslist but I won't go into the other 2.

Damn LLD

I like there being an angry voice of reason

VOTE: Xofelf

Yeah sure I guess I'm down for this

Also
think I'll go back to

VOTE: Krazy

I'd rather do Fire than tw

Ali

Where are you on Gamma Emerald

Because I could vote there

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

Here we are, in order, JJH's votes and commentary about his votes between votes.

Let it be known that I am a proud advocate of vote hoping to apply pressure, so it is not merely that he is moving his vote frequently that bothers me.

It is that he seems to present no motivation in where his vote goes and is far more concerned with putting it somewhere than what it is actually doing.

Which makes me feel the vote hopping is performative, not analytical.

For example, constant votes on Krazy, a player with exactly zero traction, may as well be unvoting.

Moved onto FB is a sketch way as described above, then never talked about him once before moving back off onto Krazy, coincidentally when the FB wagon took off and got large. Which is another mark against him doing this for pressure.

Ari vote is ?!? because there's lots of reasons to vote Ari and this dude doesn't give a single one of them. And it's not as if he's seeking to silent vote here, he does think Ari is scum in this case per his own posting, but has no interest in pushing it as an agenda it would seem.

Then he tests the waters on GE with Ali, seeing if a vote there is possible.

Then he takes a few wacks at UT with something flimsy, and I think he knew it was flimsy, and I think that was the point.

From what I can tell of this dude's voting record, he's erratic and without real motivation to seek answers or drive his reads.

Which means to me one of two things:

1) he's fabricating those reads and is actively seeking to do this as a form of subterfuge.
2) he has no fucking idea what he's doing

I lean 1) heavily, but no matter which one it is I don't feel comfortable being on a wagon with it.

I wrote this, thinking he was scum but wanting to wait on a vote. It made more sense to wait because I could see what people did.

Then he came in and literally flail defended against my points, naming none of them and just kind of throwing generalized barriers.

The defense and reaction were awful, so I voted him and put pressure there in the way I did because I wanted to see who would join for what reasons.

If I didn't think he was scum I would have changed my vote. I'm not above a gambit, but this isn't one.

[Aristophanes]

WELL THATS MOST UNFORTUNATE AINT IT

Only for the town, since I'm a bomb and she's the bomb!

[popsofctown]

Lynching LLD because she's good at scum is gross. That's not playing to wincon.

[GreyICE]

I LITERALLY GOT TAUNTED BY PINE FOR FUCKING BEING UNDRAFTABLE BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE ME FUCKING SERIOUSLY AND IGNORED IT BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE STUPID FOR EVEN DISCUSSING PINE, BUT APPARENTLY HE'S FUCKING PSYCHIC BECAUSE I'M LITERALLY SAT HERE WITH TWO SCUM UNDER MY BOOT, DOING ACTUAL LITERAL SCUMMY THINGS UNDER MY WATCH, AND Y'ALL LIKE.

Sure I'll buy xof

but the jjf vote was fucking trash

and you're not town if you made it

You really don't think that dude's votes are scummy?

I literally gave reason. I didn't just vote him cause he was pissing me off.

I showed people his votes.

He reacted to defend himself.

I pressed on it.

He reacted poorly.

I voted to see how it would go, and because I thought he was scum.

Did you even bother to read the post I made about his vote progression or the ISO I did on it?

Yeah i read it

Yeah you have no idea how I play, it's cool

he didn't give two shits

crapping christ how is that a bad reaction? he's telling you he dgaf

he clearly doesn't have strong reads which is unsurprising, a lot of people are there

and krazy's content is a fucking joke, the best reason to town read her is the idea that Pine wouldn't draft her if that's how much she's gonna post

[GreyICE]

Lynching LLD because she's good at scum is gross. That's not playing to wincon.

that'd be a stronger argument in games where alignment is randomly decided

but overall that's not what anyone is saying anyway. they're saying she's harder to read because she's a good player

what's gross is this argument, congratulations on taking your town read and burning it

[popsofctown]

Lynching LLD because she's good at scum is gross. That's not playing to wincon.

that'd be a stronger argument in games where alignment is randomly decided

but overall that's not what anyone is saying anyway. they're saying she's harder to read because she's a good player

what's gross is this argument, congratulations on taking your town read and burning it

This is narrowly about Katsuki making up an Xbox Live Achievement worth 13 Gamerscore for lynching LLD in a day 1.

[Katsuki]

Lynching LLD because she's good at scum is gross. That's not playing to wincon.

THATS NOT WHY WE'RE LYNCHING HER

WE'RE LYNCHIGN HER BECAUSE SHE'S SCUM THIS GAME

IDGAF WHOS GOOD AT SCUM AND WHOS NOT

MY LAST 10 GAMES ARE A GOOD ILLUSTRATION FOR WHY TOWNS SHOULD JUST SHEEP ME
IVE DEMOLISHED SCUM IN EVERY GAME IVE PLAYED IN THE PAST TWO YEARS AS TOWN

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I LITERALLY GOT TAUNTED BY PINE FOR FUCKING BEING UNDRAFTABLE BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE ME FUCKING SERIOUSLY AND IGNORED IT BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE STUPID FOR EVEN DISCUSSING PINE, BUT APPARENTLY HE'S FUCKING PSYCHIC BECAUSE I'M LITERALLY SAT HERE WITH TWO SCUM UNDER MY BOOT, DOING ACTUAL LITERAL SCUMMY THINGS UNDER MY WATCH, AND Y'ALL LIKE.

Sure I'll buy xof

but the jjf vote was fucking trash

and you're not town if you made it

You really don't think that dude's votes are scummy?

I literally gave reason. I didn't just vote him cause he was pissing me off.

I showed people his votes.

He reacted to defend himself.

I pressed on it.

He reacted poorly.

I voted to see how it would go, and because I thought he was scum.

Did you even bother to read the post I made about his vote progression or the ISO I did on it?

Yeah i read it

Yeah you have no idea how I play, it's cool

he didn't give two shits

crapping christ how is that a bad reaction? he's telling you he dgaf

he clearly doesn't have strong reads which is unsurprising, a lot of people are there

and krazy's content is a fucking joke, the best reason to town read her is the idea that Pine wouldn't draft her if that's how much she's gonna post

it's bad because it's LITERALLY DEFLECTIVE, KEITH.

IF HE'S TOWN, WHY DOESN'T HE GO "SO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I PLAY AT ALL, LOL. HERE'S WHY"

he doesn't. He just deflects. That makes me think he's hiding something and I've struck a nerve.

YOU KNOW HOW I PLAY. TELL ME IN WHAT WORLD I DON'T POUNCE ON THAT AS TOWN TRYING TO FIGURE SHIT OUT.

[Katsuki]

WELL THATS MOST UNFORTUNATE AINT IT

Only for the town, since I'm a bomb and she's the bomb!

GODDAMNIT ARI
IM SLIGHTLY SALTY THAT PINE DIDNT DRAFT ME
ILL BE COMING FOR YOU TMR

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lynching LLD because she's good at scum is gross. That's not playing to wincon.

that'd be a stronger argument in games where alignment is randomly decided

but overall that's not what anyone is saying anyway. they're saying she's harder to read because she's a good player

what's gross is this argument, congratulations on taking your town read and burning it

It's stronger in games where my alignment ISN'T RANDOMLY DETERMINED and YOU ARE IN THE GAME.

Pine already had a chance to draft me before and didn't because of the literal reasons no one ever drafts me into a scum team, which you won't acknowledge.

But worse than that, if your logic holds, he chose to draft me and not you.

WHAT KIND OF PLAY IS THAT?! WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC IN THAT WORLD. EITHER HE DRAFTS US BOTH OR NEITHER OF US AT ALL.

I HAVE LESS EQUITY AS A RESULT.

[Firebringer]

So Grey ice is scum and Katsuki is trolling

What else is new?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So Grey ice is scum and Katsuki is trolling

What else is new?

He's not likely scum for the same reason I'm not likely scum.

You make us both town, we'll be at each others throats before you know it.

I'm sure Pine did research before drafting, I mean the message I got was way to involved for him not to have.

So I'm assuming he knows this. I wasn't drafted, and if you don't draft me you definitely don't draft my husband because I might turn around and go "you're making me paranoid" and lynch him for no good reason.

Hell, I say this now but ask me in two days and I might still do the same. That's how my diseased brain works, lol.

But he's not scum, not likely.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Katsuki on the other hand, could easily be scum with this method of approach, issue is, I'd have no clue because Katsu does this as town just as often.

It's an enigma of shitty play.

[Firebringer]

His scumread is like the same scumread he used on you last time I saw both of you in game

[Firebringer]

And he was scum in that