it's really interesting to me to see you go gung-ho about a coalition that doesn't include you, though. if i'm to continue my spiral of confirmation bias when it comes to your being scum, obviously it would point towards your partner being among one of those people. i think even from a standpoint of not previously scumreading you, an argument could be made that that interpretation makes sense – after all, you were just talking about paranoid you were of everyone. passing a coalition that doesn't include you doesn't seem to me like the actions of someone who only trusts themselves, but that's just me.
In post 553, RC most awesomest wrote:so i think i have about 5 people to fill 4 spots in my coalition so basically i need to exclude one person
luv, espresso, gamma, alchemist, youaregreat
haven't really put in the effort to read nancy at all this game and it might be too late to do that (or thats just an excuse for me being lazy)
hopefully at most only one scum is in that group or i shall look Foolish
anyways i guess right now i lean towards excluding youaregreat. maybe i should reread alchemist
-nsg
Look, if you’re cool taking Alch out of there, I can get behind that coalition.
This is the coalition that we’re doing, I think — I am not cool adding Alch in. HURT: EspressoPatronum, NC 39, RC most awesomest, Spangled, YOUAREGREAT HEAL: luv, espresso, gamma, alchemist, youaregreat
Let’s go; we gotta get it moving.
Why are you putting in all 5 of those names when NSG was trying to figure out which one to exclude? They’re not going to exclude themselves and it’s weird you’re excluding both yourself and the player’s list you’re copying but including a guy you’re not cool with adding. It just doesn’t make sense.
the funny thing (to me, and pretty much only if spangled is scum) is that given that spangled townreads gamma, he will need to come up with a last minute reason to scumread me if he does not want to sheep my coalition by removing youaregreat and adding me.
(again, i look foolish if i'm wrong, but i guess i'm used to that by now)
@NSG our coalitions are almost the same except you have Gamma and I have NC 39.
Is there a reason you exclude NC? Any reason I should reconsider on Gamma?
P-edit: So far I’ve only seen the meta that that Gamma is only willing to reconsider as Town but I don’t think that’s very strong meta and given their earlier interactions I would pick NC over Gamma every time unless someone gives a really strong reason to do otherwise.
RC was scumreading nancy earlier in the game and didn't want to bring it up. now that he's mia and the day is nearly over it's probably not really important to keep that top secret anymore.
both of us i would say have really good handles on reading nancy. i haven't really put in any effort to read nancy this game, i put a not insignificant amount of weight into rc's read there and i would rather err on what i believe to be the side of caution.
something to consider is that nc39's coalition is more different to yours than mine is—and is unlikely, in my opinion, to change very quickly. if you were to heal nc39, you would not necessarily be able to rely on nc39 reciprocating by also sharing your coalition.
gamma, on the other hand, still has an open coalition. (
@gamma
)
basically, even if you consider the two options relatively equal in terms of reads, the quicker path to a compromise is by healing gamma.
In post 589, RC most awesomest wrote:something to consider is that nc39's coalition is more different to yours than mine is—and is unlikely, in my opinion, to change very quickly. if you were to heal nc39, you would not necessarily be able to rely on nc39 reciprocating by also sharing your coalition.
gamma, on the other hand, still has an open coalition. (
@gamma
)
basically, even if you consider the two options relatively equal in terms of reads, the quicker path to a compromise is by healing gamma.
-nsg
That first part isn’t true. If you take out Spangled and put in LUV then NC 39’s Coalition is exactly like mine, which means they are also only one away from your Coalition too.
In post 594, RC most awesomest wrote:alchemist, if you were scum in this setup do you think you would townread your partner or scumread them
-nsg
Given how I was out of everyone else’s Coalition until now I would have been Townreading them. In this setup scum have to make sure one of them is in the Coalition, so if I were scum with nobody putting me in their Coalition I would need to help my buddy get in instead. Scumreading them would be a bit counterproductive to that goal.
@NC
i didn't clarify it very well in my catch-up post, but i'm starting to feel that you are town. i think your evaluation of LUV's alignment was solid and well-articulated, and i think my initial evaluation of your play was too harsh. on top of that, your interaction with hectic made me feel like it wasn't likely you were teamed. since hectic is my top scumread, that's another reason why i'm changing my read on you.
