Micro 887: the coaLITion [game over]

[Spangled]

@Spamgled
I won't have time to address your questions point by point until later tonight. Will get to it then.

Some quick notes:
- the formality of some of my posts is perhaps due to my area of study + work. Some of those posts you linked look like the way I structure some emails.
- the paranoia is normal. Almost every player in nsg's game was convinced the coalition would fail + were thus paranoid. (*remind me later to find the scum pairings post by Almost50 -- we may be able to use his logic here).

Honestly conflicted feelings on EP.
He did some stuff early game, but lately there’s been a lot less activity etc.
He does a lot of info-gathering early game... AI? Mystery — yes, (after-game-)coincidence — maybe, hotel? Trivago.
I also think he had first tr on Hectic? I like his progression on Hectic early-ish game but there hasn’t been much since...?
I don’t really want him lynched today, but the feeling is a lot less strong than on NC, actually, weirdly enough.

I’m not the reason the coalition failed. Why do you think Espresso over LUV/Gamma?

I... what?
I think I must have been unclear on that last sentence. What I meant was: ‘I don’t want EP lynched today, but that feeling [not lynching here today] is stronger on NC 39, which is the opposite of how it’s been most of today’.
Maybe that still doesn’t make sense, but NC>EP for not-lynching, is what I’m saying.

[NC 39]

VC 1.17 Mod note: The coalition of [ EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, NC 39, RC most awesomest ] has failed! Hectic (2): YOUAREGREAT, Spangled Lil Uzi Vert (2): Gamma Emerald, EspressoPatronum Spangled (1): RC most awesomest Alchemist21 (1): Hectic EspressoPatronum (1): Lil Uzi Vert Not Voting (2): Alchemist21, NC 39 With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-12 18:00:00).

[/u]

Underline mine.
Both coalition and lynch must happen in ‘day phase’ one.

Oh really?

@Sky, I think we need more time. Not everyone has even posted yet. Any chance we can get an extension?

[Spangled]

I’m going to be around probably until the next :00; I need sleep soon; important things are happening tomorrow.

[NC 39]

I mean since coalition failed. We need reactions, especially from LUV.

[Spangled]

@NC 39
Thoughts on Gamma and my case on him?

[Spangled]

Actually, my head’s telling me pretty unconditionally that it’s sleep-time now. G’night; this has been caffeinated, tired Spangled.

[NC 39]

I mean Sky hasn’t even posted an updated vote count yet. I think we lose if we don’t get an extension.:/

We need 5 votes for a majority. How the fuck is that even going to happen in the next 10 hours?

Sky, please, we’re probably going to no lynch if you don’t give an extension.

I thought we had another 7 days to figure this out.

[NC 39]

@Spamgled
I won't have time to address your questions point by point until later tonight. Will get to it then.

Some quick notes:
- the formality of some of my posts is perhaps due to my area of study + work. Some of those posts you linked look like the way I structure some emails.
- the paranoia is normal. Almost every player in nsg's game was convinced the coalition would fail + were thus paranoid. (*remind me later to find the scum pairings post by Almost50 -- we may be able to use his logic here).

Honestly conflicted feelings on EP.
He did some stuff early game, but lately there’s been a lot less activity etc.
He does a lot of info-gathering early game... AI? Mystery — yes, (after-game-)coincidence — maybe, hotel? Trivago.
I also think he had first tr on Hectic? I like his progression on Hectic early-ish game but there hasn’t been much since...?
I don’t really want him lynched today, but the feeling is a lot less strong than on NC, actually, weirdly enough.

I’m not the reason the coalition failed. Why do you think Espresso over LUV/Gamma?

I... what?
I think I must have been unclear on that last sentence. What I meant was: ‘I don’t want EP lynched today, but that feeling [not lynching here today] is stronger on NC 39, which is the opposite of how it’s been most of today’.
Maybe that still doesn’t make sense, but NC>EP for not-lynching, is what I’m saying.

Oh I see, that makes a lot more sense.

[NC 39]

VC 1.17 Mod note: The coalition of [ EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, NC 39, RC most awesomest ] has failed! Hectic (2): YOUAREGREAT, Spangled Lil Uzi Vert (2): Gamma Emerald, EspressoPatronum Spangled (1): RC most awesomest Alchemist21 (1): Hectic EspressoPatronum (1): Lil Uzi Vert Not Voting (2): Alchemist21, NC 39 With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-12 18:00:00).

[/u]

Underline mine.
Both coalition and lynch must happen in ‘day phase’ one.

Oh really?

@Sky, I think we need more time. Not everyone has even posted yet. Any chance we can get an extension?

So updated VC has RC on me, and you and Alchemist on Gamma.

So, hopefully we get an extension. So we have until 6:00pm.

[NC 39]

@NC 39
Thoughts on Gamma and my case on him?

Wrt 122 and 126, I don’t really understand the connection. I do see your case, which is why my vote will almost certainly be between those two. Fortunately, I will be online before deadline. I still would prefer if Sky extends it though.

I want to get more thoughts on this before I make up my mind. I especially hope LUV will post before deadline. I would really like to feel more confident in my vote.

[Hectic]

@Spangled: i'd like to hear your thoughts on this newbscumness you think i'm exhibiting, do you mean the uncertainty about my reads?

also why do you keep saying my case on Alchemist being bad is a reason to scumread me? do you disagree with me saying i was trying to paint everything he said as scummy, and i found only some of my points to be valid?

[EspressoPatronum]

We don't really have time for much discussion + I think it's a bad idea to not lynch.

[Hectic]

As regards Gamma, 122 and 126 confuse me as a combination. I like their initial progression on me... but then, that progression is townreading me, and after other people started to do the same, so I’m pretty much going to discard that.
Gamma doesn’t express many stances (especially controversial ones) as far as I can see (feel free to prove me wrong though, anyone). Their tone still feels off to me and that pr vs vt explanation still doesn’t sit well with me.

I do like how he reconsidered NC 39, but a lot of his reads are go-with-the-flow kind ones; he trs me when others start to, he trs RCMA when others start to, he reconsiders me when RCMA cases me, he trs NC 39 when other start to, he srs Hectic when I start to... like out of all the slots I’ve looked at I think I like this least; the lack of some really individual reads that others didn’t have first I don’t like. I don’t think anyone’s online now so I’m going to plant my vote here because right now is the last time toDay I’ll be online.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

this is quite interesting and will sheep it if nothing better presents itself

though Espresso's theory on lynching LUV to see if NC + LUV is a thing too could be interesting

apologies for being useless

[Hectic]

i'll do this for now until Gamma gets on to respond to that case:

VOTE: LUV

[EspressoPatronum]

We're down to 8 hours. My vote is on LUV, but I could go for Gamma as well.

I will check in occasionally over the next few hours + will swap my vote as needed to achieve a lynch.

[Hectic]

and yes, i still don't like Alchemist but clearly no one else wants to lynch him today

his response to me earlier was a whole lot of "oh, i wouldn't do this is i was scum" which is LAMIST? and pretty bad

[Hectic]

We're down to 8 hours. My vote is on LUV, but I could go for Gamma as well.

I will check in occasionally over the next few hours + will swap my vote as needed to achieve a lynch.

same

[NC 39]

and yes, i still don't like Alchemist but clearly no one else wants to lynch him today

his response to me earlier was a whole lot of "oh, i wouldn't do this is i was scum" which is LAMIST? and pretty bad

No one - who isn’t gamethrowing - wants to lynch outside of FAILED coalition.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd vote Alchemist

[Hectic]

lul

[NC 39]

We're down to 8 hours. My vote is on LUV, but I could go for Gamma as well.

I will check in occasionally over the next few hours + will swap my vote as needed to achieve a lynch.

Same. It’s really so frustrating with so many non-active players. I don’t know why some people even sign up for these games.

@Sky, is it possible to prod LUV and YOUAREGREAT?

[Alchemist21]

We're down to 8 hours. My vote is on LUV, but I could go for Gamma as well.

I will check in occasionally over the next few hours + will swap my vote as needed to achieve a lynch.

Same. It’s really so frustrating with so many non-active players. I don’t know why some people even sign up for these games.

@Sky, is it possible to prod LUV and YOUAREGREAT?

You need to place a vote.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What’s the case on Alchemist again?

[EspressoPatronum]

What’s the case on Alchemist again?

There isn't one rn because he wasn't in the coalition

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think limiting the lynch pool solely to those who were in the failed coalition is more likely to lead to a town loss.