Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps


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Post Post #2900 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 2837, Alisae wrote:WHERE YOU AT
The people town reading LLD, or just not interested in lynching her have spoken. You guys just haven't read it, and if you did, you disregarded it because it didn't fit your agenda.
In post 2842, Alisae wrote:REMEMBER PEOPLE

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Bargain: Watcher

before you start placing votes

THERE'S A BOUNTY ON LLD'S HEAD
AND IF YOU GET THAT
YOU ABOUTA COLLECT DAT BOUNTY
Using fruit to incentivize people to push through a lynch you want is a dirty move, and you're supposed to be our IC.







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Post Post #2901 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:26 pm

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In post 2889, Krazy wrote:Is he mechanically incentivized to give the power to town? Like is he restricted from exclusively giving it to scum? Or can he simply refuse to give out fruit altogether?
He has said he will bargain in good faith but he also I think can just back out if he wants, read the Pine ISO plus the thing in the OP on it for a better description likely
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Post Post #2902 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm

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In post 2900, Chickadee wrote:Using fruit to incentivize people to push through a lynch you want is a dirty move, and you're supposed to be our IC.
Pine was the dirty one who put a bounty on her head
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Post Post #2903 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm

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like thats was just DIRTY
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Post Post #2904 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm

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and also fucking HILARIOUS
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Post Post #2905 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:28 pm

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In post 2896, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2893, Krazy wrote:
In post 2892, Formerfish wrote:monkeys fist situation going on.
what does this mean?
Paw, not fist, my bad

Yeah a monkey fist is a weapon
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Post Post #2906 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm

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In post 2905, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah a monkey fist is a weapon
A knot that people like to make for keychains as well, i suppose as self defense things as well?
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Post Post #2907 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:32 pm

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In post 2899, Dannflor wrote:Why do I feel like you're purposefully playing dumb about this
If it's so obvious why are you passively complaining about GE making a bargain but not actually objecting to it directly?
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Post Post #2908 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 pm

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In post 2907, Krazy wrote:
In post 2899, Dannflor wrote:Why do I feel like you're purposefully playing dumb about this
If it's so obvious why are you passively complaining about GE making a bargain but not actually objecting to it directly?
SPICY!
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Post Post #2909 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 pm

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how many votes we at till hammer
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Post Post #2910 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 pm

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What if i told you guys i think youre both scum?

Spicier?
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Post Post #2911 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:34 pm

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Honestly Dann would be the one playing dumb about the fruit, Pine has already stated I'd no one asks he can do whatever the fuck he wants
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Post Post #2912 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 pm

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In post 2910, Formerfish wrote:What if i told you guys i think youre both scum?

Spicier?
Why Dann? Kinda receptive given my last post but I also townread his early stuff
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Post Post #2913 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 pm

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In post 2909, Alisae wrote:how many votes we at till hammer
shes at l-1 once that person voted after they figured outt hat other person unvoted right, so fuck it, rock and roll and shit, LLD these next 24 hours are yours, see you in the dead thread

VOTE: LLD

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but not really since from this post you have 24hrs.
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Post Post #2914 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:35 pm

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In post 2890, Ankamius wrote:I kinda want to get a reads list out too actually
24 hour twilight, according to FF.

Spoiler: krazy questions catchup slots can skip
If no player offers him a bargain with
bargain:fruit
he loses the opportunity to secretly distribute the fruit at night instead. He kinda seems to regret not saying "if not enough people offer me" fruit instead and he and Jingle have been cagey in future interactions, but if it was 2+ Jingle would have had to correct, and he said it, so it only takes 1 bargain.
We don't know whether Pine can nullify it by saying "if you climb mount everest and show me pix" or reach some other level of ridiculous in the deal.
Pine can stockpile up to 2 Fruit and has admitted some fruit is town-utility-only. He will have to give it out just so that new fruit starts coming in, kind of like an unwanted tetris piece, the way I understand it.
The way he has mentioned a fruit "not being ripe yet" and some of his other comments has implied that he stores his two fruits in a storage area as he accrues them and can offer them in any order he wants. I suspect it's not mandatory for him to give them out but it's to his advantage to do so to keep his fruit income going. Fruit WIFOM + strong chance they have white lie negative passives + actually giving fruit to scum some percent of the time + being on the team that can delete a player holding a beneficial fruit from the game when that's necessary.
All fruits given thus far are 1-shots that last 1 night the immediate following night and the delay of clarifications of such suggests that possibly all the fruits are like that.
There seems to be little preventing Pine from giving fruit to scum besides WIFOM. Leashing one person to bargain according to Ali's preference would work but people are just bargaining anyway and it's anti-town-not-scummy, sadly.
Fruit does not inherently grant multitasking and slots in this game are only multitasking if it says so in their role PM, I spec at least 1 scum role but there's a good chance they all just have it.
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Post Post #2915 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:36 pm

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why'd you fucking do that
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2916 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:36 pm

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you didn't even fucking bargain the fruit
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2917 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:36 pm

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In post 2448, Pine wrote:I’ll give the Watcher fruit to whoever hammers LLD
is this still in effect, Pine? Like is this a mechanically locked Bargain or more just you saying something you'll do? It's really unclear what all is mech and not with your posts tbh
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Post Post #2918 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 2912, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2910, Formerfish wrote:What if i told you guys i think youre both scum?

Spicier?
Why Dann? Kinda receptive given my last post but I also townread his early stuff
his vote on JJh and the reasoning. I think that dan was also one of the people who couldnt understand what chenny meant when he called Mena opportunistic during that while thing, which pinged me. Ive just been sitting back as thing unfold and im starting to get a little inside my head with things now.
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Post Post #2919 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 2916, popsofctown wrote:you didn't even fucking bargain the fruit
i'm so FUCKING TRIGGERED atm

HOLY SHIT
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Post Post #2920 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 2907, Krazy wrote:
In post 2899, Dannflor wrote:Why do I feel like you're purposefully playing dumb about this
If it's so obvious why are you passively complaining about GE making a bargain but not actually objecting to it directly?
i didn't complain about that?

the fruit just probably helps scum more than town
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Post Post #2921 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 pm

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I'm sorry I'm a little drunk.

But that's not teamplay and it's frustrating.

And it's a teamgame.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2922 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 2918, Formerfish wrote:I think that dan was also one of the people who couldnt understand what chenny meant when he called Mena opportunistic during that while thing, which pinged me.
yeah

cuz I town read Menalque for that whole thing
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Post Post #2923 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:38 pm

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wait it's a fake hammer FF is already on LLD I AM drunk UNVOTE:
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2924 (ISO) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:38 pm

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Hmm, is bargaining gated by hammer?

Whatever, I didn't hammer but I'm still curious how all this works

Bargain Watcher Fruit


Is this void since hammer or is the bargaining irrespective of dayphases? It seems like you make the actual choices in twilight?
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