Micro 887: the coaLITion [game over]

[Alchemist21]

At some point I think my give-a-damn broke.

If I were scum I would be flailing a lot more to avoid a D1 lynch.

[Hectic]

you're flailing

i think me saying that makes us both more likely to be scum now, so even happier with this lynch

/s

[RC most awesomest]

Why don't you vote Gamma alch?

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Gamma

[Skygazer]

VC 1.19 Alchemist21 (4): Hectic, Spangled, NC 39, RC most awesomest Lil Uzi Vert (2): Gamma Emerald, EspressoPatronum Hectic (1): YOUAREGREAT EspressoPatronum (1): Lil Uzi Vert Gamma Emerald (1): Alchemist21 Not Voting (0): With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-14 23:59:59).

[Hectic]

can we hammer before i call it a night?
want to see this flip

[EspressoPatronum]

VOTE: Alchemist

[Skygazer]

VC 1.20 Alchemist21 (5): Hectic, Spangled, NC 39, RC most awesomest, EspressoPatronum Lil Uzi Vert (1): Gamma Emerald Hectic (1): YOUAREGREAT EspressoPatronum (1): Lil Uzi Vert Gamma Emerald (1): Alchemist21 Not Voting (0): With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-14 23:59:59).

[Skygazer]

Alchemist21 has been lynched! They were Town . It is now night one . Night one will end in (expired on 2019-09-16 19:20:00).

[Skygazer]

RC most awesomest died last night! They were Town . It is now day two . Day two will end in (expired on 2019-09-23 19:25:00).

[Skygazer]

VC 2.00 Not Voting (7): Hectic, Spangled, NC 39, EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, YOUAREGREAT, Lil Uzi Vert With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-23 19:25:00).

[EspressoPatronum]

Welp, time to go back to square one... we vote within the coalition no matter what. I won't be caving on this stance under any circumstances.

The scum thankfully helped us out by killing off one of the potential lunch candidates.

[NC 39]

I think the fact that scum decided to kill within the coalition is pretty telling.

[EspressoPatronum]

I think the fact that scum decided to kill within the coalition is pretty telling.

Telling of what?

[Spangled]

i think it's a significant mistake for anyone to have spangled in their coalition right now and i feel like doing so is literally making the classic mistake that loses towns games: overlooking the silently scummy people coasting by in favor of focusing on the outrageous or distracting things.

I would like to offer an opinion, here — that

maybe

some of the fairly inactive people could be scum here, doing the same thing you’re accusing me of doing; coasting, hoping I get lynched today and generally sheeping you, hiding behind the reasoning of how you’re ‘just that awesomely good’, and then maybe letting you lynch EP, and then shooting you N2 once you’ve served your purpose. Or maybe shooting you N1 if Coffeelad is, actually, scum, or if you change your mind or something, I don’t know.
This is not me saying you’re bad at the game, either RC or nsg — but scum can use people whose reads are pointed in the wrong direction.

This post could have aged worse.

Too tired this afternoon; will go back to actually thinking about the game tomorrow, or in a few hours.

[Hectic]

sending my thoughts and feelings over to you guys while i'm away

@mod: V/LA 17th to the 21st.

[NC 39]

I think the fact that scum decided to kill within the coalition is pretty telling.

Telling of what?

Maybe I’m wrong and it’s WIFOM and RCMA was pretty townie but I nevertheless find it interesting that first scum kill was inside the coalition, don’t you?

[NC 39]

i think it's a significant mistake for anyone to have spangled in their coalition right now and i feel like doing so is literally making the classic mistake that loses towns games: overlooking the silently scummy people coasting by in favor of focusing on the outrageous or distracting things.

I would like to offer an opinion, here — that

maybe

some of the fairly inactive people could be scum here, doing the same thing you’re accusing me of doing; coasting, hoping I get lynched today and generally sheeping you, hiding behind the reasoning of how you’re ‘just that awesomely good’, and then maybe letting you lynch EP, and then shooting you N2 once you’ve served your purpose. Or maybe shooting you N1 if Coffeelad is, actually, scum, or if you change your mind or something, I don’t know.
This is not me saying you’re bad at the game, either RC or nsg — but scum can use people whose reads are pointed in the wrong direction.

This post could have aged worse.

Too tired this afternoon; will go back to actually thinking about the game tomorrow, or in a few hours.

The irony is that I removed both you and Alchemist from the coalition. I really should have stuck with my gutread on him but my reads were bad in Surprise and when someone with a scumhunting rep like RC, says he has a100% BoP on a slot, it’s hard not to doubt yourself.

[Spangled]

Okay, compiling some reads/thoughts here so I can sheep past!me:
Town:
NC 39
Hectic
Gamma/GREAT/EP/LUV (confusing mess)
Scum

Gamma was being nonchalant and I can totally see that coming from both sides, but maybe slightly more town?
I still really like Clemency’s entrance for town; it sounds like someone, to me, who knows their own meta, and is confident that they can be good for town this game. Please challenge me on this, perhaps, everyone?
EP - good at the start on both tone and content, has dropped majorly since.
LUV - nothing much? Maybe some slight towniness-es, but...

This game sucks to try and solve, especially when I start to second guess myself on Hectic and NC 39.

[EspressoPatronum]

I think the fact that scum decided to kill within the coalition is pretty telling.

Telling of what?

Maybe I’m wrong and it’s WIFOM and RCMA was pretty townie but I nevertheless find it interesting that first scum kill was inside the coalition, don’t you?

Yes. I find it very interesting because RCMA was a sub-optimal kill target imo.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Spangled, what specifically about me was good from a tone and content perspective, and what specifically has changed?

You've been slowly walking your town read of me back + it looks like you're positioning to scumread me. I can't address your read of me if it's vague though, so I'd like you to drill down on the specifics.

[EspressoPatronum]

In:

RCMA

NC
EP
LUV
Gamma

Out:

Alchemist

Spangled
Hectic
GREAT
__________________
Legend:

In!X = town/scum in the coalition
Out!X = town/scum outside of the coalition
IN - inside the coalition
OUT - outside of the coalition
1-1 = 1 in!scum, 1 out!scum

My guess is that scum killed inside the coalition because they're 1-1. If they killed outside of the coalition (bringing it down to two players OUT) + we assumed 1-1, then the remaining out!town would have conf!scum on the other out!slot, and the rest of us would have a 50/50 shot.

With that in mind, scum probably killed IN to either:
a) prevent the above from happening, or
b) make us think they were preventing the above from happening.

It's probably option a over b, but that's pretty WIFOMy. Bearing in mind we have two MLs before game loss, I propose we lynch IN:
Example:

Spoiler:

RCMA

NC
EP

LUV

(hypothetically)
Gamma

Out:

Alchemist

Spangled
Hectic
GREAT

If we're right, we have 2 lynches to find the remaining scum in the 3 out!slots. If we're wrong, we force the scum to bring one category (IN or OUT) down to 50/50, meaning we enter LYLO with decent odds of hitting scum.

All of the above assumes 1-1. If it's 2-0, then we for sure need to be voting IN.

[NC 39]

Why do you have LUV crossed out?

[NC 39]

Why do you have LUV crossed out?

in the spoiler section?

[EspressoPatronum]

Why do you have LUV crossed out?

Hypo example. Is that all you took from the post??