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[Carcalilly]

If you are SERIOUSLY doubting he's a mason, than what am I to you?

[Rick Dalton]

The fact that both Cliff and I have wagons is ridiculous and proves scum is taking advantage and discrediting is because they didn’t want us pairing up together.

Splitting Cliff and I up like that was necessary.

[Rick Dalton]

If you are SERIOUSLY doubting he's a mason, than what am I to you?

Someone going along with their gambit.

I’ll believe it when I see it, either in play, or flip.

You guys are claimed, so we’ll see what happens.

Rarely do actual masons claim like that Day 1.

[Carcalilly]

How are wagon's splitting you two up?

[Rick Dalton]

Because his push on me is bad and straight up wrong.

I’m not saying that necessarily what he said was wrong, but the application to the specifics here is incorrect.

[Rick Dalton]

How are wagon's splitting you two up?

Not like that, like they’re trying to split us away and keep us as like a “scummy duo” so we can’t pop off.

[Carcalilly]

Well I didn't want to personally, but JJD caught on, probably jokingly, and gamma just decided to confirm it.

Look back at every single time I mention gamma and tell me again that I joined this on a whim.

[Carcalilly]

How are wagon's splitting you two up?

Not like that, like they’re trying to split us away and keep us as like a “scummy duo” so we can’t pop off.

People scumreading you does not inhibit YOUR play in any way. Only the perception of others.

[Elements]

Titus vote Rick

Nah. I'm much more happy on Elements because of the resistance to him and his AtE when I was last reading.

There has been less resistance to my wagon then to anyone else's. I'm also the joint highest, L-5, of any wagon currently. This looks like an excuse to keep your vote on me.

[Rick Dalton]

Well I didn't want to personally, but JJD caught on, probably jokingly, and gamma just decided to confirm it.

Look back at every single time I mention gamma and tell me again that I joined this on a whim.

It’s easy to crumb in a fake mason fashion. I’m never gonna truly believe it.

Like sure, you may be masons. Doesn’t change the fact Gamma has a straight up incorrect application of the meta read.
And if you truly are masons, then this would be GOOD that I am pushing it like this because it protects from potential Night kills, which is another reason I’m not fully believing.

[Carcalilly]

As much as I want to defend you more elements, I'm just not sure enough to put it up.

[Elements]

I’m an investigative.

I’m a Day 3 IC.

Which one are you?
Or is the IC claim you saying you'll be obviously town at that point?

[Rick Dalton]

Titus vote Rick

Nah. I'm much more happy on Elements because of the resistance to him and his AtE when I was last reading.

There has been less resistance to my wagon then to anyone else's. I'm also the joint highest, L-5, of any wagon currently. This looks like an excuse to keep your vote on me.

I am cooling on you as well, but the case on me is trash. And if you’re town, yes, there is scum on you, but there’s scum on me right now too.

[Elements]

As much as I want to defend you more elements, I'm just not sure enough to put it up.

That's fair. I think I've crumbed my role sufficiently that if I have to claim I'll be believed and not lynched.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m an investigative.

I’m a Day 3 IC.

Which one are you?
Or is the IC claim you saying you'll be obviously town at that point?

I’m both.

You new here?

[Carcalilly]

how in the holy fuck would we coordinate that if we weren't??
Honestly I feel like right now you're just being stubborn with your beliefs

And, I'm not going to invalid your point of view on gamma's "case" because that's perfectly valid, I'm just slightly alarmed at how defensive you are now and (less so) with cliff.

[Elements]

Titus vote Rick

Nah. I'm much more happy on Elements because of the resistance to him and his AtE when I was last reading.

There has been less resistance to my wagon then to anyone else's. I'm also the joint highest, L-5, of any wagon currently. This looks like an excuse to keep your vote on me.

I am cooling on you as well, but the case on me is trash. And if you’re town, yes, there is scum on you, but there’s scum on me right now too.

Yea, your defence seem highly aggravated, genuine and passionate too.

[Carcalilly]

..... and is there a downside?

[Elements]

I’m an investigative.

I’m a Day 3 IC.

Which one are you?
Or is the IC claim you saying you'll be obviously town at that point?

I’m both.

You new here?

relatively

[Carcalilly]

I honestly have never been so confused on how to take a reaction or situation

[Rick Dalton]

how in the holy fuck would we coordinate that if we weren't??
Honestly I feel like right now you're just being stubborn with your beliefs

And, I'm not going to invalid your point of view on gamma's "case" because that's perfectly valid, I'm just slightly alarmed at how defensive you are now and (less so) with cliff.

What do you mean?

You don’t have a way to talk outside of the thread...?

I’m cool, consistent, and collected as scum, so why is defensive setting you off?

I’m like...only defensive as town.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m an investigative.

I’m a Day 3 IC.

Which one are you?
Or is the IC claim you saying you'll be obviously town at that point?

I’m both.

You new here?

relatively

I have a high fake claim meta, but people accept that I have a weird style.

I don’t fake claim, I true claim roles that aren’t mine.

I have proven success with catching scum with my style, and generally it all makes sense why I claim specific things I do.

You can check the Competitive Compromise Coalition thread in MD discussion to see a social deduction I created, and essentially that game is all about fake claiming over and over, and teaches you how to read that kind of thing.

[EeveeLution Army]

unofficial vc

Elements(5): Hopkirk, Rick Dalton, Cliff Booth, Titus, Sharon Tate
Rick Dalton(3): Elements, Gamma Emerald, AaronFrost
Cliff Booth(3): Carcalilly, Hectic, Billy Pilgrim
Tchill(2): Garmr, YOUAREGREAT
KOP(1): bob3141
Hectic(1): Profii
Billy Pilgrim(1): KOP
Davesaz(1): EeveeLution Army

Not voting: Davesaz, Tchill, Judge Joseph Dredd

I think i missed smth why so many people on elements

[Carcalilly]

This is the most serious you've been all game, most of your posts we're either silly or some form of meta

pedit: speaking of meta.......

[Carcalilly]

unofficial vc

Elements(5): Hopkirk, Rick Dalton, Cliff Booth, Titus, Sharon Tate
Rick Dalton(3): Elements, Gamma Emerald, AaronFrost
Cliff Booth(3): Carcalilly, Hectic, Billy Pilgrim
Tchill(2): Garmr, YOUAREGREAT
KOP(1): bob3141
Hectic(1): Profii
Billy Pilgrim(1): KOP
Davesaz(1): EeveeLution Army

Not voting: Davesaz, Tchill, Judge Joseph Dredd

I think i missed smth why so many people on elements

I was surprised as well