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Post Post #3375 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:02 pm

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In post 3336, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3331, Alisae wrote:
In post 3329, the worst wrote:It was like the optimal scum NK you fools
yeah because you made it
Duh
No one ever talked to me about tw I. comparison to The Thread Title Sucked (from what I saw) and now 1 of the 2 who could have helped me there is dead
Fire fucking help explain why tw isn't playing like that game
think this is a real thought btw. townread on Gamma instated.
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Post Post #3376 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:03 pm

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none of that is proof of the claim but I'm still inclined to believe it I think
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Post Post #3377 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:03 pm

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Btw I won't be campaigning for a Krazy lynch yet but it's definitely something I'll keep in mind, I kinda expect good things from Krazy
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Post Post #3378 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:03 pm

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In post 3375, the worst wrote:
In post 3336, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3331, Alisae wrote:
In post 3329, the worst wrote:It was like the optimal scum NK you fools
yeah because you made it
Duh
No one ever talked to me about tw I. comparison to The Thread Title Sucked (from what I saw) and now 1 of the 2 who could have helped me there is dead
Fire fucking help explain why tw isn't playing like that game
think this is a real thought btw. townread on Gamma instated.
still very ambivalent towards fire
ur just playing hard to get with me and u know it
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Post Post #3379 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:04 pm

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that's correct but I'm not doing it for no reason :<
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Post Post #3380 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:04 pm

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Alright it looks like there's already been some discussion on whether Ank has a comprehensible crumb. I'm not sure my theory is better than anyone else's but I figure it's at least worth asking about.
In post 1548, Ankamius wrote:Ankamius
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Roughly where my reads are at atm
In post 1906, Ankamius wrote:4. I'm pretty much always a nightkill by scum this game as town, most likely in midgame somewhere before I hit my stride and start hitting outright solves. I'd be surprised if scum didn't have at least one person that was aware of this, and Pine has seen a recent enough example to believe it.

5. Alisae, this is specifically to you: I've literally never played with Menalque before. I don't know how he plays. He fits the specific type of player I've been trying to hunt for because the way I'm seeing the game, that specific type is the most likely to hold scum. His response to me was horrific. At best, he has a playstyle that will always result in false positives for me, but I don't actually understand what about him is townreadable unless he just has one of those weird playstyles I can't actually read.
1906 is Ank's longest post, and she spends a whole point emphasizing how likely she is to be killed at night, and then immediately follows it with a discussion of Menalque and how difficult it is to read him, specifically calling out Alisae. I'm just saying, given 1906 is Ank's longest post, she wanted Mena basically all day, but she also wanted him gone *in part because she felt he was unreadable* he sounds like someone she would be very inclined to want a mech result on, unlike other people who she only mentioned in passing. Additionally, given her reads list on 1548, there's no reason to think she would have had an incentive to seriously reconsider her reads after LLD's flip.

I say this as someone who spent day 1 mostly townreading Menalque, and I am well aware I could be wrong here. But she was still scumreading Mena late into the day and ultimately I've only played with scum Mena once so I have to consider I was just wrong there.

Obviously other people have theories on what might have been Ank's most likely crumb, but overall I think ignoring Ank's actually likely targets is a bad idea. In any case I do see there being likely opposed candidates for crumbs from later in the day but to me this really looks like a Mena check.

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Post Post #3381 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:04 pm

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In post 3000, Ankamius wrote:because pops isn't town
Huh.

Gonna have to sell me on NOT doing this.

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Post Post #3382 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:05 pm

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In post 3379, the worst wrote:that's correct but I'm not doing it for no reason :<
Care to share unsaid reason? Or are you also being coy for a reason?
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Post Post #3383 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:05 pm

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Aren't role PMs supposed to be insanely customized or some shit? Mastina quoting hers is extremely ehhhhhhh
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Post Post #3384 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:06 pm

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Yeah I don't think lynching Krazy today is a good idea
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Post Post #3385 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:06 pm

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In post 3381, GreyICE wrote:
In post 3000, Ankamius wrote:because pops isn't town
Huh.

Gonna have to sell me on NOT doing this.

Vote: Pops
I had the same thought but Krazy's Mena case above looks more familiar and I think I kinda agree w people saying she wasn't likely to try and kamikaze I guess *sigh*

I'm not very convincing I guess but we are the minority.
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Post Post #3386 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:06 pm

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I don't think menalque is anymore likely than pops or chennisden or any of her other scum reads she repeatedly pushed throughout D1
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Post Post #3387 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:06 pm

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In post 1, Jingle wrote:Hello, [Playername]! I'm Jingle and I'm here to welcome you to Alisae's Revenge! You're a Loyal Retainer to the rightful Lord of the Land, Alisae. Unfortunately, the wicked tree that controls the Dark Forest has been acting up, causing insurrections left and right. Alisae has called an end to this nonsense, and is preparing to ride forth. Some of my messages have been compromised, however, and a few among you were recruited by the terrible monster to put an end to our quest before it even begins!

We must purge our party of those who have no loyalty, or we shall surely fail.

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Post Post #3388 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:07 pm

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I'm still 100% down for a Krazy lynch

his posts at the end of D1 were disgusting
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Post Post #3389 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:07 pm

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In post 3367, mastina wrote:Hello, mastina! I'm Jingle and I'm here to welcome you to Alisae's Revenge! You're a Bodyguard Loyal Retainer to the rightful Lord of the Land, Alisae. Unfortunately, the wicked tree that controls the Dark Forest has been acting up, causing insurrections left and right. Alisae has called an end to this nonsense, and is preparing to ride forth. Some of my messages have been compromised, however, and a few among you were recruited by the terrible monster to put an end to our quest before it even begins!

We must purge our party of those who have no loyalty, or we shall surely fail.

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(Bodyguard) Each night, you may target a player. Any attempts to kill that player will fail. If you successfully prevent a kill this way, you will die instead.

The town win condition is: You win when all of Pine's minions have been killed.

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Post Post #3390 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:07 pm

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In post 3380, Krazy wrote:Alright it looks like there's already been some discussion on whether Ank has a comprehensible crumb. I'm not sure my theory is better than anyone else's but I figure it's at least worth asking about.
In post 1548, Ankamius wrote:Ankamius
Alisae
Chickadee
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The worst
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Greyice
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MariaR
Untrod Tripod
Krazy
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Xofelf
Pink Ball
Katsuki
Formerfish
PenguinPower
Jjh927
Popsofctown
Gamma Emerald
Iconeum
Dannflor
Mastina
chennisden
Menalque
Lady Lambdadelta
Pine

Roughly where my reads are at atm
In post 1906, Ankamius wrote:4. I'm pretty much always a nightkill by scum this game as town, most likely in midgame somewhere before I hit my stride and start hitting outright solves. I'd be surprised if scum didn't have at least one person that was aware of this, and Pine has seen a recent enough example to believe it.

5. Alisae, this is specifically to you: I've literally never played with Menalque before. I don't know how he plays. He fits the specific type of player I've been trying to hunt for because the way I'm seeing the game, that specific type is the most likely to hold scum. His response to me was horrific. At best, he has a playstyle that will always result in false positives for me, but I don't actually understand what about him is townreadable unless he just has one of those weird playstyles I can't actually read.
1906 is Ank's longest post, and she spends a whole point emphasizing how likely she is to be killed at night, and then immediately follows it with a discussion of Menalque and how difficult it is to read him, specifically calling out Alisae. I'm just saying, given 1906 is Ank's longest post, she wanted Mena basically all day, but she also wanted him gone *in part because she felt he was unreadable* he sounds like someone she would be very inclined to want a mech result on, unlike other people who she only mentioned in passing. Additionally, given her reads list on 1548, there's no reason to think she would have had an incentive to seriously reconsider her reads after LLD's flip.

I say this as someone who spent day 1 mostly townreading Menalque, and I am well aware I could be wrong here. But she was still scumreading Mena late into the day and ultimately I've only played with scum Mena once so I have to consider I was just wrong there.

Obviously other people have theories on what might have been Ank's most likely crumb, but overall I think ignoring Ank's actually likely targets is a bad idea. In any case I do see there being likely opposed candidates for crumbs from later in the day but to me this really looks like a Mena check.

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Post Post #3391 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:08 pm

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In post 3377, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw I won't be campaigning for a Krazy lynch yet but it's definitely something I'll keep in mind, I kinda expect good things from Krazy
Was this in response to something from this dayphase?
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Post Post #3392 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:08 pm

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mastina, i hope u didn't actually copy and paste your role pm in here, because i don't think that's kosher regardless of mod rules.

varsoon literally got banned a few months ago doing that.
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Post Post #3393 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:08 pm

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In post 3388, Dannflor wrote:I'm still 100% down for a Krazy lynch

his posts at the end of D1 were disgusting
Which of my posts specifically were "disgusting"?
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Post Post #3394 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:09 pm

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In post 3392, Firebringer wrote:mastina, i hope u didn't actually copy and paste your role pm in here, because i don't think that's kosher regardless of mod rules.

varsoon literally got banned a few months ago doing that.
and varsoon made an argument that the rules didn't say he couldn't copy and paste his role pm as reason for why he could do it, btw.
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Post Post #3395 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:10 pm

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In post 3393, Krazy wrote:
In post 3388, Dannflor wrote:I'm still 100% down for a Krazy lynch

his posts at the end of D1 were disgusting
Which of my posts specifically were "disgusting"?
These ones:
In post 3019, Krazy wrote:oh ok dann is scum
In post 3023, Krazy wrote:Gamma's also scum lol

this game
In post 3037, Krazy wrote:Yeah except you've literally only ever pushed me when you're scum, Gamma
In post 3055, Krazy wrote:
In post 3015, Dannflor wrote:pedit: also bahahaha this whole "ooh how does fruit work let me bargain for it" the past 10 posts is so fucking fake
town Dann never writes this lol
The OMGUS reaction was extreme and you refused to engage with me beyond that
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Post Post #3396 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:10 pm

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In post 3392, Firebringer wrote:mastina, i hope u didn't actually copy and paste your role pm in here, because i don't think that's kosher regardless of mod rules.

varsoon literally got banned a few months ago doing that.
Every town role pm is going to be the same thing as that with minor changes, the one i quoted is the sample from the OP and it matches mine and Mastinas, cause they all do and the sample is available to veryone
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Post Post #3397 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:10 pm

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Scum!Krazy jumping on the LLD wagon since the beginning before I posted endorsing it?
Idunno dude, I’m not exactly sure about that.
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Post Post #3398 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:11 pm

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In post 3397, Alisae wrote:Scum!Krazy jumping on the LLD wagon since the beginning before I posted endorsing it?
Idunno dude, I’m not exactly sure about that.
decent point, krazy / LLD didn't feel aligned
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Post Post #3399 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:11 pm

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In post 3391, Krazy wrote:
In post 3377, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw I won't be campaigning for a Krazy lynch yet but it's definitely something I'll keep in mind, I kinda expect good things from Krazy
Was this in response to something from this dayphase?
Because of things I talked about with Ali in the endgame of another game I had resolved to push you with renewed vigor but later I changed my mind and decided to hold off. As I see it my decision at this point looks to be the right one.
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