Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

Katsuki · Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:47 pm

who has the key agian?

Katsuki · Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:49 pm

In post 2095, kuribo wrote:
In post 2088, Alisae wrote:- don't know how she got the red key
- didn't explain what she used on me and kats
- You don't need to know how she got the red key. It's a moo point. It's like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. It's moo. There's a need to know basis, and you ain't in that list.

- how does someone in this game with this player list not understand obvious trolling

It does matter actually.

One of you two is hiding something. She either got the red key because she has an ability she's not claiming, or by way of some ability you're not claiming.

It's quite obvious that lynching Maria and denying her access to the Well is the best choice we can make today.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:50 pm

Hebi has the black key

kuribo · Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:46 pm

In post 2098, Gamma Emerald wrote:Uhhh when he's claimed 3P?

@LLD if only third party and town are present at the Well is town's win condition met?

NOPE

Third Party members are not Town for the purposes of the town wincon. This is a flipless game, so all you will be told is that no win conditions have been met.

it's right there in the first post

kuribo · Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:47 pm

it's sad that I've read y'alls win conditions better than y'all

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:29 pm

kuribo · Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:38 pm

In post 2099, Katsuki wrote:and having her pass the key to Kuribo as she will if scum, than any other option today.

That's some bullshit fallacious reasoning right there Kats

If she's town she'll give you the key? Dude, she thinks you're scum. There is zero chance of town Maria sending her scumread to Well of Fears. If given the option of sending a scumread or a claimed third party, any town player will do the same.

Case in point, for all she knows, leaving you out of Well of Fears wins the game for town if they banish me afterwards.

Remember, as long as town doesn't waste their time, they still get banishments after Well. But if the time code reaches zero without town holding every key and without scum finding the key they need, GUESS WHAT? Town loses. Scum loses. And I'll win because you won't be at Well, and neither I or Grey will have the Black Key.

If you're town, TDK, you need to accept that you lynching Maria will actively harm the town win condition.

kuribo · Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:38 pm

Or just let time run out lol idgaf lmao

Katsuki · Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:44 pm

In post 2106, kuribo wrote:
In post 2099, Katsuki wrote:and having her pass the key to Kuribo as she will if scum, than any other option today.

That's some bullshit fallacious reasoning right there Kats

If she's town she'll give you the key? Dude, she thinks you're scum. There is zero chance of town Maria sending her scumread to Well of Fears. If given the option of sending a scumread or a claimed third party, any town player will do the same.

Case in point, for all she knows, leaving you out of Well of Fears wins the game for town if they banish me afterwards.

Remember, as long as town doesn't waste their time, they still get banishments after Well. But if the time code reaches zero without town holding every key and without scum finding the key they need, GUESS WHAT? Town loses. Scum loses. And I'll win because you won't be at Well, and neither I or Grey will have the Black Key.

If you're town, TDK, you need to accept that you lynching Maria will actively harm the town win condition.

?

I don't expect to make it to the Well. It is in town's best interest to keep her from getting there. If she decides to give the key to a claimed 3P then town simply need to lynch you after they get to the Well.

There's no point for me to be making the case to you anyways, since you're not even town. It's kinda obvious though, unless that you believe there to only be a singular Mafioso, that the game will not end upon opening the Well with the current 6, in which Maria will be the first to go anyways. It's unnecessary risk to let her get to the Well when we can very well lynch her here.

Which on that note, there's only 6 lynch options today, none of the other 5 whom I believe to be more likely to be scum than Maria.

Hebi is the most conftown of all players
GE is probably not scum.
GI is town.
Plum is probably town.
Last one left would be Alisae and I don't think Alisae is scum over MAria so.

Katsuki · Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:46 pm

I honestly don't care about making it to the well.

Did you ever make use of what I gave to you btw Kuribo? I don't actually know what I bestowed upon you.

kuribo · Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:36 am

In post 2109, Katsuki wrote:I honestly don't care about making it to the well.

Did you ever make use of what I gave to you btw Kuribo? I don't actually know what I bestowed upon you.

I never got anything from you.

kuribo · Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:37 am

In post 2108, Katsuki wrote:It's kinda obvious though, unless that you believe there to only be a singular Mafioso, that the game will not end upon opening the Well with the current 6, in which Maria will be the first to go anyways.

With all the third parties, as Grey pointed out, that would make it 7:3:3

kuribo · Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:39 am

In post 2108, Katsuki wrote:Which on that note, there's only 6 lynch options today, none of the other 5 whom I believe to be more likely to be scum than Maria.

I'll be real with you, I don't actually care if she's town or not, I have my own reasons for not wanting you me or Grey at Well, which are pretty obvious.

Katsuki · Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:23 am

In post 2112, kuribo wrote:
In post 2108, Katsuki wrote:Which on that note, there's only 6 lynch options today, none of the other 5 whom I believe to be more likely to be scum than Maria.
I'll be real with you, I don't actually care if she's town or not, I have my own reasons for not wanting you me or Grey at Well, which are pretty obvious.

Oh I'm well aware of that. That's why I said my posts were never meant to be a discussion with you, the audience is everyone else.

MariaR · Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:40 am

In post 2099, Katsuki wrote:Yes.

Maria has by far the highest chance of being Mafia, thus it is far better to mitigate the risk of her winning outright by making it to the Well by killing her off now, and having her pass the key to Kuribo as she will if scum, than any other option today.

You guys can figure out who to kill in the Well.

'Highest chance of being mafia' is buzz and filler. You can make this claim about anyone in the game but with nothing to back it up it's just empty shade

Plum · Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:57 am

Let me be real. Maria, you might be Town. If you are, I need to reevaluate a lot. I have reasonably strong Townreads on everyone in the game besides you and kuribo. But most of them are things I

could

be wrong about. I'd just be varying degrees of surprised.

But for fucks sake you have to try and work with what's going on here if you are in fact Town. I don't want to just give in to apathy but the longer things go on the more TERRIBLE EVERYTHING becomes so please

please

convince me to lynch Katsuki, if that's really what you think we ought to do

if you are Town

don't just sit there waiting and doing nothing

I'm begging you

I'm not going to sit here hoping you contribute and not lynching you forever because every moment I do

the game gets more and more terrible

and just

no

MariaR · Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:02 am

What am I supposed to be defending here exactly? You're giving me no room to work with. You're basically saying 'Maria isn't town' like, okay? That's nothing to defend on. No one is listing reasons why I'm scummy. If you're lynching me for the sake of just lynching me then get it done with. I really don't know how any of you have townreading Katsuki with half the stuff they've posted this game. It isn't even an iso thing it's a 'you're openly scummy' but they're getting a pass because it's Katsuki. You do know lynches me accomplishes nothing right? Gamma is checking me to see if the key I have is the 'mafia' key right? That should solve it. I never expected to be let into the wall because 'omg it's Maria she's SCUM'

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:03 am

LLD please mod your game

MariaR · Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:03 am

It's not a 'work with me here' thing.' I've always been open to people asking me questions or asking for my thoughts. Yet no one is doing any of that this game at all. It's a two-way street. Has anyone besides me gone back and read the flipped town reads? No. I bet you haven't. If you're just wanting the game to be over open the god dam gate.

Katsuki · Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:24 am

In post 2114, MariaR wrote:
In post 2099, Katsuki wrote:Yes.

Maria has by far the highest chance of being Mafia, thus it is far better to mitigate the risk of her winning outright by making it to the Well by killing her off now, and having her pass the key to Kuribo as she will if scum, than any other option today.

You guys can figure out who to kill in the Well.
'Highest chance of being mafia' is buzz and filler. You can make this claim about anyone in the game but with nothing to back it up it's just empty shade

This post is bullshit from Maria scum because she has no idea how to defend against my case. It's very illuminating that she's going after me as oppose to trying to find scum.

I already posted the WHY as to how you have the highest chance of being mafia, but sure, try and call it buzz and filler.

Katsuki · Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:25 am

There are also a thousand signs pointing as to why I'm not mafia this game.

MariaR · Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:53 am

In post 2119, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2114, MariaR wrote:
In post 2099, Katsuki wrote:Yes.

Maria has by far the highest chance of being Mafia, thus it is far better to mitigate the risk of her winning outright by making it to the Well by killing her off now, and having her pass the key to Kuribo as she will if scum, than any other option today.

You guys can figure out who to kill in the Well.
'Highest chance of being mafia' is buzz and filler. You can make this claim about anyone in the game but with nothing to back it up it's just empty shade
This post is bullshit from Maria scum because she has no idea how to defend against my case. It's very illuminating that she's going after me as oppose to trying to find scum.

I already posted the WHY as to how you have the highest chance of being mafia, but sure, try and call it buzz and filler.

You never made a case on me. What exactly am I supposed to be 'defending' here. We dam sure know scum me can defend on anything someone tries to make so let's shut down that right away. I said in the neighbor PT that you were scum long before you even said my name.

kuribo · Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:02 am

it's true she did

and i have scum reads too but i don't care to share them

also my scum reads are probably 100% biased by the fact that my life is easier with both of them banished because my scum reads are Grey and Katuski

*shrug*

kuribo · Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:02 am

it's actually nice not having to scum hunt

Katsuki · Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:06 am

SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING THE ALIGNMENT OF UNFLIPPED PLAYERS KURIBO LIKE MS MARIA OVER THERE
I WAS TOO BUSY ASSUMING THAT ALL THE MAFIA WERE DEAD

I envy you man, I really do. My case is lying right there for all to see but it's not my job to direct the scum to read my case on why they're scum so.