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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:56 am

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In post 1574, Unstuck in Time wrote:idk speculate on this if you want, but a beta kill means RCE is likely scum.
Either that or it's what the mafia wants us to think.
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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:59 am

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Betas case on me only has any validity if he's dead. The Crux of his argument was that the Tris wagon started because of me. To keep pressure away from me but it actually sprang up as a counterwagon to Plat.

Don't let that stop scum from pointing a finger to say beta died for a scumread on me.
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:02 am

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In post 1575, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1574, Unstuck in Time wrote:idk speculate on this if you want, but a beta kill means RCE is likely scum.
Either that or it's what the mafia wants us to think.
if you're town, why the hell are you openly WIFOMing?


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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 1577, Unstuck in Time wrote:
In post 1575, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1574, Unstuck in Time wrote:idk speculate on this if you want, but a beta kill means RCE is likely scum.
Either that or it's what the mafia wants us to think.
if you're town, why the hell are you openly WIFOMing?


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I'm just speculating. Didn't you openly state on your own post which i responded to that we could "speculate on this"?
Why did my post trigger you so much?
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:19 am

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In post 1578, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm just speculating. Didn't you openly state on your own post which i responded to that we could "speculate on this"?
Why did my post trigger you so much?
because that was a transparent attempt at shooting down my speculation with WIFOM...

regardless you're a bit more towny for giving a fair answer



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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:20 am

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In post 1559, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Either a Sorceress or Witch Hunter.
70-30 Full vig
I refuse to believe that we have a witch hunter who decided to use the one shot on a non-zombie confirmed target.
Plus the math is easier for me and I can stop trying to do the probabilities.

Priest (3) + Sorc (3) => Zombie (2) + Witch (1)

I'm too lazy to completely ISO BS to determine the circumstances of their death (ben's ISO is shorter :P), but idk whether a low-info no-association NK > prime lynchbait, or policy/optimal/recommended vig play.

Likewise was BS onto the scum team, was NK'd for the WIFOM of being on to the scum team, or did they just... 'piss off' the vig inadvertantly?
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:20 am

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In post 1577, Unstuck in Time wrote:if you're town, why the hell are you openly WIFOMing?
Pointing out WIFOM does not equal creating WIFOM. The WIFOM already existed; he was merely drawing our attention to it.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:38 am

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So- height of fake-PP's wagon:
Platinum Phoenix (6) ~ PenguinPower, norwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, RCEnigma, UiT, Ben (#)

At this point, tris has no votes whatsoever.
Then it goes like
Spoiler:
tris(1) -> +S_S #
fPP(5) -RCE #
fPP(4) -UiT #,
fPP(5) +tris #,
fPP(6) +RCE # ,
fPP(5), tris (2) +GE#,
tris (1) -S_S #
tris (2) +norskie #
tris (3) +fPP #
tris (4) +UiT #
tris (5) +vork
tris (6) +hop
tris (5) -vork
tris (4) -UiT
tris (5) +ben
tris (6) +UiT
tris (7) +NaCL

UiT's voting pattern (late on both wagons, jumped off when worried that something wasn't going to go through, jumped straight back on when the wagon "revived" again is that of scum wanting to mislynch either of the 2 townies available) is.... erm.... yeah
VOTE: UiT
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:43 am

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Fuck his (their) D2 opening is also telling
In post 1574, Unstuck in Time wrote:wow I forgot the flip.
this and the stuff before it feels really fake no?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
In post 1577, Unstuck in Time wrote:if you're town, why the hell are you openly WIFOMing?
I think this is an early attempt to take initiative to drive a wagon against norskie and throw shade

This guy deserves a reread
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:49 am

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In post 1583, Vorkuta wrote:this and the stuff before it feels really fake no?
Not really?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:53 am

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Ben was the more likely vig kill. Beta was probably partly killed for the WIFOM around their reads, be them correct or not. From that either UiT or RCE are scum. RCE if the kill was because of the read, UiT if it was to get us to lynch RCE. I more inclined to think the latter because of 1574. We only had one post about the beta death from Nor then UiT gives the classic mafia post of "oh no why did they die?" and brings up the fact RCE was scum read by beta.
VOTE: UiT
I this is scum, NaCl probably is too. If town, RCE if prolly scum.
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:58 am

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UiT also seemed quick to blame me for saying what we were all thinking in post like that somehow equates me scum.
I might agree on voting UiT, i don't think i've ever felt particularly good about him.
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:18 am

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I like Vork's case of my slot on 1582. I mean that's solid. 1583 is a bit less, but still feels genuine. 1585 feels less good. I think he's setting up two mis-lynches. First me, then when I I may have made a mistake yesterday by hopping off that wagon.

I really liked Norskie's post to open up today.

VOTE: Plat Phoe

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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:20 am

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Also, Plat Phoe's direction toward RC if I flip town makes me a little less suspicious of RC.

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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:21 am

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And if we mislynch and there is a vig that misfires again, we could be in LYLO with 4 town 3 scum.
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:25 am

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In post 1588, Unstuck in Time wrote:Also, Plat Phoe's direction toward RC if I flip town makes me a little less suspicious of RC.

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Yea you're right. You flipping town doesn't have any significant bearing on RCE's slot.
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:25 am

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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:26 am

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In post 1588, Unstuck in Time wrote:Also, Plat Phoe's direction toward RC if I flip town makes me a little less suspicious of RC.

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Explain this because I might be misreading your meaning again.
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:34 am

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I sent some mobsters after Hectic for a joke so he'll probably be missing for a few days.

VOTE: RC

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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:51 am

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Hectic V/LA? Ugh, now we're stuck with Hopkirk.

(Jk, no offense. I think you're cool too don't worry!)
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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 1592, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1588, Unstuck in Time wrote:Also, Plat Phoe's direction toward RC if I flip town makes me a little less suspicious of RC.

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Explain this because I might be misreading your meaning again.
His post said that if I flip town you're scum. I think that was setting up you as the next mis-lynch when I flip town.

I also don't know what associationals he was pointing to between us. I don't know why we have to be different alignments here. In fact I had you in my lynch pool toward the end of day yesterday, but I ultimately went with Tris.

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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:59 am

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In post 1379, tris wrote:well, i'm off. I won't be around for deadline.
In post 1563, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: NaCl

We should hammer this without getting a claim
I can't tell if you're just joking or something, but I'm curious as to what would have changed between me hammering then or me or PP doing it 8 hours later? It wasn't like Tris was going to return, and I didn't see another wagon forming.
In post 1582, Vorkuta wrote:So- height of fake-PP's wagon:
Platinum Phoenix (6) ~ PenguinPower, norwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, RCEnigma, UiT, Ben (#)

At this point, tris has no votes whatsoever.
Then it goes like
Spoiler:
tris(1) -> +S_S #
fPP(5) -RCE #
fPP(4) -UiT #,
fPP(5) +tris #,
fPP(6) +RCE # ,
fPP(5), tris (2) +GE#,
tris (1) -S_S #
tris (2) +norskie #
tris (3) +fPP #
tris (4) +UiT #
tris (5) +vork
tris (6) +hop
tris (5) -vork
tris (4) -UiT
tris (5) +ben
tris (6) +UiT
tris (7) +NaCL

UiT's voting pattern (late on both wagons, jumped off when worried that something wasn't going to go through, jumped straight back on when the wagon "revived" again is that of scum wanting to mislynch either of the 2 townies available) is.... erm.... yeah
VOTE: UiT
This is a bad list. Not really over Fake-PP, but more on Tris. It was pretty clear that UiT was getting on the wagon in order to get a lynch through, since deadline was approaching. Even the jump off was because of a misunderstanding with the deadline. You literally did the same thing with the Tris wagon.

Why is it more likely for scum to be late on both wagons as opposed to being early on Fake-PP? The way I see it, at least 1 scum was probably early on the wagon to have it be rushed up so quickly and then stalling out for a bit.
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 1596, NaCl wrote:I can't tell if you're just joking or something, but I'm curious as to what would have changed between me hammering then or me or PP doing it 8 hours later?
Idk it's mostly just salt. Someone really should have asked tris to claim while she was here.
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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:03 am

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NaCl might just be town that is a viable lynch anyway...



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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:04 am

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I still prefer PlatPhoenix and RCE as those are people I actually scumread, mind you.



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