Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[the worst]

much as I would love to vote the duck, unless we're confident that FB is town (which honestly I don't see how anyone could be?) then we need to lynch him today.

(1) it's unconfirmed that the governor is self governing, so there's a possibility that we actually get it

(2) unless everyone hard TRs him, then do you really want a governor FB in potential lylo maybe tomorrow or maybe the next day?

probably a townpost unless this is one of those situations where fireb is obviously town and I'm just not seeing it.

[popsofctown]

much as I would love to vote the duck, unless we're confident that FB is town (which honestly I don't see how anyone could be?) then we need to lynch him today.

(1) it's unconfirmed that the governor is self governing, so there's a possibility that we actually get it

(2) unless everyone hard TRs him, then do you really want a governor FB in potential lylo maybe tomorrow or maybe the next day?

The governor fruit is lost in LyLo and I think it's possible he is anti-town town.

I think the fruit is -probably- selfgoverning and also he can be vigged.

[Firebringer]

lol that is not a town post.

[Firebringer]

much as I would love to vote the duck, unless we're confident that FB is town (which honestly I don't see how anyone could be?) then we need to lynch him today.

(1) it's unconfirmed that the governor is self governing, so there's a possibility that we actually get it

(2) unless everyone hard TRs him, then do you really want a governor FB in potential lylo maybe tomorrow or maybe the next day?

The governor fruit is lost in LyLo and I think it's possible he is anti-town town.

I think the fruit is -probably- selfgoverning and also he can be vigged.

pine confirmed it can self govern already.

[the worst]

lol that is not a town post.

this isn't a townpost

[Firebringer]

lol that is not a town post.

this isn't a townpost

none of my posts are, i am open wolfing, remember?

[popsofctown]

she's on a precipice where she should be able to obvtown very fucking quickly.

I was playing in a way where on D1 I wanted it to be that when I flipped N1 people would wonder if I was Pine's nightkill target or if I pulled off a successful protection--I, personally, would know it was the latter.

Is this a perspective scum-slip????
Why would you go out of your way to obscure information from town when that information is 24/7 Library of Congress available to scum???

[popsofctown]

VOTE: mastina

[popsofctown]

that's just so fucked up

how do you get there

[popsofctown]

I read it the fourth time, it still can't make sense

[Menalque]

I really think this structure would be better if the fruit system were more rigorously codified, including what undisclosed effects the fruit could or could not have.

Better for Town, perhaps. It's something I control, not Ali. It's presented as fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Life and Death, what the hell did you expect?

Pine is literally giving fruit because it's pro-scum

Correction: I suggested this mechanic because it's FUN. Jingle insisted we make it balanced enough for Town to benefit.

Pine, can the governor fruit self-target?

@Jingle I could make an assumption, but can you confirm this?

Truth: Jingle confirmed by PM that the Governor can self-target.

I think pops was saying vig shots should be used on lurkers.

Yes but that's an arbitrary, synthetic distinction.

A real distinction is that Firebringer cannot be lynched today.

Yeah but if you don’t try, he’ll still have the governor protection going forward. Like I said, this fruit does NOT spoil if not used right away.

I choose not to answer whether the Governor fruit can self-govern, though Jingle has clarified it for me.

PE: I will give the fruit in Twilight, as promised, and it has a Twilight activation. It could plausibly be used this Twilight.

This is weird looking back. Idk if pine forgot that he'd confirmed already, or something else.

[popsofctown]

This is scum trying to replicate a mastina meta that messes with scum knowledge of what her role is with fakeclaims and such

But has messed up that meta by perspective slipping and bragging about an antitown gambit that didn't occur

[Firebringer]

she is saying she wanted to make it obvious to scum she was a pr so that she oculd potentially get nked, but that she knew she would die from protecting ank. Its mastina logic. What u going to do about it. Its not scummy or townie. Its just ridiculous.

[popsofctown]

"I, personally, would know it was the latter" lol

[popsofctown]

no this is a scumslip only scumstina makes get onboard

bragging about gambits is mastina

bragging about gambits that hide info from town is oopsscumstina

the baiting an nk part is fine, the obfuscating NKA part is a scumclaim

[Firebringer]

i agree with ur vote so i am not going to argue it. GOOD VOTE

[Menalque]

much as I would love to vote the duck, unless we're confident that FB is town (which honestly I don't see how anyone could be?) then we need to lynch him today.

(1) it's unconfirmed that the governor is self governing, so there's a possibility that we actually get it

(2) unless everyone hard TRs him, then do you really want a governor FB in potential lylo maybe tomorrow or maybe the next day?

(1) It was confirmed.
(2) I can still be vigged.

much as I would love to vote the duck, unless we're confident that FB is town (which honestly I don't see how anyone could be?) then we need to lynch him today.

(1) it's unconfirmed that the governor is self governing, so there's a possibility that we actually get it

(2) unless everyone hard TRs him, then do you really want a governor FB in potential lylo maybe tomorrow or maybe the next day?

The governor fruit is lost in LyLo and I think it's possible he is anti-town town.

I think the fruit is -probably- selfgoverning and also he can be vigged.

right but do you wanna gamble on him "being possibly anti-town town" in lylo?

not to mention that if you think he's anti-town then we should be eliminating him from the game as soon as possible anyway. anti-town is generally indicative of scum.

[popsofctown]

I, personally, would know it was the latter.

I, personally, would know it was the latter.

I, personally, would know it was the latter.

[Firebringer]

I, personally, would know it was the latter.

I, personally, would know it was the latter.

I, personally, would know it was the latter.

pops i get ur point, but we are talking about mastina here.

[the worst]

happy scumday for tomorrow popsofctown

[popsofctown]

much as I would love to vote the duck, unless we're confident that FB is town (which honestly I don't see how anyone could be?) then we need to lynch him today.

(1) it's unconfirmed that the governor is self governing, so there's a possibility that we actually get it

(2) unless everyone hard TRs him, then do you really want a governor FB in potential lylo maybe tomorrow or maybe the next day?

(1) It was confirmed.
(2) I can still be vigged.

much as I would love to vote the duck, unless we're confident that FB is town (which honestly I don't see how anyone could be?) then we need to lynch him today.

(1) it's unconfirmed that the governor is self governing, so there's a possibility that we actually get it

(2) unless everyone hard TRs him, then do you really want a governor FB in potential lylo maybe tomorrow or maybe the next day?

The governor fruit is lost in LyLo and I think it's possible he is anti-town town.

I think the fruit is -probably- selfgoverning and also he can be vigged.

right but do you wanna gamble on him "being possibly anti-town town" in lylo?

not to mention that if you think he's anti-town then we should be eliminating him from the game as soon as possible anyway. anti-town is generally indicative of scum.

I am, unfortunately, not sure that playing to the scum win condition is scum-indicative for Firebringer.

[the worst]

pops is too excited.

[Firebringer]

my win condition is to have fun. I am succeeding so far.

[the worst]

how do you have fun

[Menalque]

oh, I meant to respond to the first quote separately saying that actually, the vig's shots are bad enough that I could see it being a scum vig (as the duck/mastina both pointed out) and in that case we can't rely on you being vigged, the only thing we can rely on is lynching you