Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Something_Smart]

Last but not least: would scum!PB, who has experience with mastina, REALLY try to get her lynched instead of anyone else in this playerlist?

No

I think you two are TvT atm

[Alisae]

the best way to find scum chennis is if he is micromanaging the gamestate

im not

:thonks:

also, the gain i have as scum by not micromanaging the gamestate and say "lol im not scum bc im not micromanaging" is WAY less than the gain i have as scum by micromanaging.

:thonks harder:

I may buy this?

what are you seeing there that I’m not seeing?

[Titus]

Spoiler: Filler in PB ISO

Whoops fucked up that quote and now it looks like you're going on through a phase

The whole scumteam is not posting while you guys scumread each other's asses, noobs.

disagree

Because of Fire daddy?

fire za waursto jjh and maybe pops

what exactly was peoples expectations for this 27 player game exactly? Like I mean really....

how is this long?

The 27 player game is not a good argument since it's only two players hyperposting, with one of them being an IC. Just sayin', not complainin', I don't mind the pace of the game, and I like Ali and you Fire daddy.

See? You both agree. Ali, townread Fire daddy

You're drinking Pine wine Alibae

Is Fire daddy the only one who qualifies to that description, Alibae?

PB, could you do some more obvtowning so I can townlock you pls

Turn around, and look at what you see
In her face, the mirror of your dreams

This reminds me of Dr. Worm not a doctor, shh

You're right pichupichu

Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred posts
Five hundred twenty-five thousand moments so dear
Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred posts
How do you measure, measure a game?

In scumreads, in towntells
In claimings, in bussing partners
In lynches, in memes
In hammers, in fights

In five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred posts
How do you measure a mafiascum game

How about love?

Nice stuff, but got anything usefull to add there, Pinky?

How about love?

I have lots of love for you PB

Shall we get team love and wholesomeness back together for a second round of scumbusting?

How about love?

PB I love you

Omg

I feel so pretty right now

players on this list I have (I THINK I HOPE) good rapport with and didn't greet this game include but aren't limited to Gamma Ank Mastina Ari Skyg Chickadee you Dannflor Ico Krazy PP etc. etc. (latter two I haven't spoken to at all yet)

also v/la and don't have a lot of time to socialize so I've been focusing on scumhunting

I have no idea why this conversation is happening and think you are trying to shade me via a very strange expectation of how social I should be with my very limited mafia time rather than earnestly engaging with my content. if you're town I need you to fix that my friend.

Hey

LLD, Katsuki, GreyICE, Firebringer, and anyone else getting riled up

I enjoy your rage

But please de-escalate. Go to your separate corners for now

Toxicity is not welcome here

WHAT ABOUT LOVE!?

They had a recent towngame together and they are so romantic about it

I was planning on making a serious post about what happened a few pages ago, but I shouldn't talk about something I didn't really experienced myself, so I shouldn't try to make it about me and just say that I have hope that everything will be alright at the end.

We could make an appreciation page to get good vibes on this game and remember that we're all here for a reason.

Simple rules: every post on the next page has to be a compliment to the player of your choice. If someone posts something unrelated IS A BABY WITH A MOUSTACHE

Wow dude leave it for the appreciation page omg

You got me quaking pichupichu

How will you send us those sweet love letters, Ali? An arrow to the other knee?

APPRECIATION PAGE BEGINS!!

I really want to thank Ari for being such a positive fella. I don't want to live in a world where being kind is a weakness, and I believe that's not possible if we are afraid of being stepped on by others. You're clearly a brave man for opening your arms to everyone who requires it.

Thanks, Ari!

the worst, you're such a good listener. I often think that someone who knows how to listen is because they haven't felt listened themselves so they try to amend that to others who could feel the same way. I mean, I could be projecting my own self since I felt like that a lot back in the day, but having meaningful and meaningless conversations with you on and offsite has been one of the best experiences I've had since I got into mafia online.

Thanks, Tom!

too bad the food so far has been DRENCHED with teriyaki sausce
I do NOT appreciate that Panda Express D;

Leave it for the NOT appreciation page!

By the way Ali, I wrote some time ago one of those SUPP anonymous feedback to you, but since we're in our appreciation page:

You're one of the main reasons I started caring for this site. You're so passionate about this place, like with the titles people get and with the Scummies... I didn't get it at first, but I do now, and I'm really thankful for it.

Keep being chaotic, Alibae!

PB you always make me laugh

like not just the "I exhaled a little bit of air out of my nose" thing

actual laughter

you're a good human

<3 <3 <3

Merchant's daughter is one of my favourite games of all time, I had so much fun roleplaying with you. You have a great sense of humour, Dann, and most importantly, you seem to keep your feet on the ground and that's crucial in a lot of ways; it is really nice having people like you around 'cause you stay put even in stressful situations like this game tends to go sometimes.

Thanks Dancefloor, I'm hoping you ask me to dance next time

I really want to keep going but I should've gone to sleep like two hours ago please continue the appreciation page for me, guys! I'll try to come back with some more if the timing is right (like, if the game gets serious again I don't want to derail it again, I don't to force it).

And remember, if you post something off topic in the appreciation thread:

I'll try to watch it at night before going to sleep ff. How long have you been doing standup?

Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred posts
Five hundred twenty-five thousand moments so dear
Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred posts
How do you measure, measure a game?

In scumreads, in towntells
In claimings, in bussing partners
In lynches, in memes
In hammers, in fights

In five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred posts
How do you measure a mafiascum game

How about love?

Like, you see this post? It's a fucking masterpiece. Like Ocarina of Time masterpiece. Supah Mario Bros 2 babyeeeee

For real, how about love?

You saying you loved hammering reminded me of this video for some reason, so I posted it. I do this.

I like you and your brain

Omfg

I've been staring at the edge of the water
Long as I can remember, never really knowing why

where's PB we need another appreciation page

I'm out of love. Ali drained it.

Krazy could you tell LLD I really liked her style please??

Gotta go sleep, I'm in the middle of nowhere at 3 am a little drunk and tomorrow is WOAHHHHH big day night night

5 days straight of drinking, sleep deprivation, cold as fuck bed, a long ass return to the city 'cause yeah let's all go back the same fucking day at the same time on the only functional highway we have...

Best days of my life. Huh, makes no sense to me. Ah, also, new girlfriend. She's cool. I'll meet her family in about an hour, fuck me.

Already read everything, didn't retain anything important. Only this:

Pink Ball is a friendly sort, always helping out. If a friend struggles under the weight of their pack, he is the first to come and lighten the load. His kindness and joy is infectious, and many a campfire with him has become an impromptu gathering to discuss the blessings of the guests. It is hard in his presence to feel paranoia or fear. The dread and terror of the woods break on this bastion, and it is sure that without his warmth to guide us, our spirits would have broken long ago.

This is important guys you should read it carefully (love you Jingle <3)

Firebringer
MariaR
Gamma Emerald
ankamius
GreyICE
jjh927
Dannflor
Menalque

All town, no matter what the flip is

Katsuki
Aristophanes

Town if LLD flips scum

mastina

Didn't read her long post

Ari is controversial for WKing LLD.

That's not why Aristophanes is scum, though it is something Aristophanes would do as scum.
Aristophanes is scum because of what he brings to the scumteam, the value Pine sees in Aristophanes, and what Aristophanes has done all game. What stances he's taken, what plays he's made, his tone, his content, his everything. The pushes he's made, the content he's providing, it all looks like his top-form scumgame rather than his natural towngame. Mostly, you can tell this by one simple fact;
Aristophanes this game is trying harder than he would be as town.
Yes, traditionally, Aristophanes as scum is a lurksack who does nothing; traditionally, town-Aristophanes usually does nothing for quite a bit and then ends up trying hard.

But this is an Aristophanes whose tryhardness is above and beyond the call to duty--this is an Aristophanes with something to prove, and Aristophanes as town would have nothing to prove.

Tired of mastina calling scum to players when her stance on herself and other players is "anyone is a good pick for Pine, if someone wasn't a good pick, they wouldn't be in the game". Mastina is not really playing the game. And she's actually a good pick for Pine, along with PP. Called them out on D1, they're both scum.

VOTE: mastina

These two posts are back to back mastina mentions. Yet, you're claiming I'm opportunistic.

[Something_Smart]

what are you seeing there that I’m not seeing?

Just the blatant self meta, and then the blatant self meta about why he wouldn't lie about the first self meta.

I think scum chennis is more of a show not tell guy?

[Titus]

Btw Titus, I assume you’re still around
You can feel free to chime into any discussion me and SS are talking about.

Later. I have to get dressed and take my meds.

[Alisae]

I mean I have a link to a scumgame of his where he solocarried but I was moreso just thinking that his play here is nothing compared to guns and roses where he was blatantly obvtown and trying to solve

[Something_Smart]

Are you thinking of gay dance? Obviously I wasn't in it but I got the impression that chennis put on a better imitation of that obvtown solving than people thought he was capable of.

[Alisae]

Ye gay danc

[PenguinPower]

You, mastina,

PP

and a pair of lurkers,

[Formerfish]

I strongly feel we should flip PB, Fire or, The Worst.
Krazy, Pops, and Gamma are tier 2 reads.

The day 1 wagon on LLD feels like LLD taking a dive to protect her partner(s). Alisae suggests a Firewagon, and there's a counter on the worst. The worst feels independently scummy though as well.

Jjh actively resisted the LLD wagon even though LLD voting him was the impetus for her wagon (that's why Grey voted). Jjh wanted Fire and Krazy. In that range, LLD spends an insane amount of energy defending Fire.

Then, Fire gets the governor from Pine.

The worst MIGHT be town but should only get clearing if Fire is not a scum PR.

Fire loses his vote to get the governor...how convienent with someone studying VCA here.

Not to sound like a spoiled princess, but where is your scum read on me? I thought that

tonally

you had me pegged against a 4 year old meta of me?

[Alisae]

Alright
Sure
I’ll leave it alone

[Pink Ball]

Also I kind want to point this out
mastina seems very different and i don't think she should be written off just because she claimed vig
like, I don't know how behind mastina is, but the lack of post after post after post of mastina trying to catch up
kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda freakin me out

When you described who qualifies to be on Pine's team, both mastina and PenguinPower stood up

Guess what, nobody's talking about them and town is fighting each other.

Either you don't know how to read my ISO, which Is a possibility, or you're indeed being opportunistic trying to make me look bad.

Guess what Titus, and everyone else too: I know my ISO like the back of my hand. That's why I fluff, 'cause I can remember better what I was thinking when I made those posts. That's my secret, I'm chaotic, but with a purpose. Go on Titus, find the stink on my ISO, I'LL END YOU

[Alisae]

SS who else do you want me to look at?

[Menalque]

I also think 1 scum in (mastina, PB) seems likely

SS, you’re scumreading me, correct? Want to talk about it?

Err I may be coming around a bit

You just felt really stilted in your interactions with me like you were trying to justify a read rather than dynamically evaluate what I was doing.

Could you give me an example of where you think I was doing this?

I think I was very fair to you. I didn’t SR you off xof like most people were, but I didn’t like your entrance today. For instance, saying you were out of your scumrange when I just saw you play a very good deepwolf scumgame. I also thought that your speculation about trying to grab the fruit was potentially scummy in the same way that I thought FB’s actual bargain to get the fruit was scummy (which I still do think ftr, but I’m less concerned although not entirely unconcerned now that I’ve realised it won’t work in lylo).

I also disliked the stuff after fb put you back on the table as a potential lynch where you were getting frustrated and asking if you should self-vote. Now, I know that was genuine frustration from you. But can you not see how town!me unsure of your slot from before would think that it could be scum!you frustrated at repping into a slot that was looking likely to get lynched regardless of what you were doing and trying to AtE your way out of it?

[Something_Smart]

SS who else do you want me to look at?

Dancefloor?

Several people are hard townreading him and I do not get why

[Formerfish]

So jjh was killed for his day 1 reads.

I think scum killed JJH to frame Ari.

[Pink Ball]

You, mastina,

PP

and a pair of lurkers,

You had a neighborhood with Pine in a recent game and you guys had a lot of chemistry. Scum!Pine added you first on the groupchat game because of this. You're a good pick from his perspective

[Formerfish]

So, bigger kudos for the desp shot, my brother would be proud.

[Titus]

I strongly feel we should flip PB, Fire or, The Worst.
Krazy, Pops, and Gamma are tier 2 reads.

The day 1 wagon on LLD feels like LLD taking a dive to protect her partner(s). Alisae suggests a Firewagon, and there's a counter on the worst. The worst feels independently scummy though as well.

Jjh actively resisted the LLD wagon even though LLD voting him was the impetus for her wagon (that's why Grey voted). Jjh wanted Fire and Krazy. In that range, LLD spends an insane amount of energy defending Fire.

Then, Fire gets the governor from Pine.

The worst MIGHT be town but should only get clearing if Fire is not a scum PR.

Fire loses his vote to get the governor...how convienent with someone studying VCA here.

Not to sound like a spoiled princess, but where is your scum read on me? I thought that

tonally

you had me pegged against a 4 year old meta of me?

That was a starting place, not my favorite thing to use FF. I was desperate to get started. I don't have you as locktown.

[Alisae]

SS who else do you want me to look at?

Dancefloor?

Several people are hard townreading him and I do not get why

dude
Its so hard for me to read his posts
I don’t get it
I just don’t have the attention span for it or something?
Like, I just try to open up that ISO and I just
Immediately lose interest

I feel like if you wanted to know why so many people are hard TRing him, you need to ask those individuals.

What are your issues with the guy?

[Something_Smart]

You're a good pick from his perspective

So I can clearly not choose the penguin in front of me!

[Something_Smart]

Its so hard for me to read his posts
I don’t get it
I just don’t have the attention span for it or something?

That's fine, I get that, I have people like that too.

Idk exactly what my issue is he just felt like there was a certain way he wanted things to go and he wasn't really reacting to what was happening in a genuine way?

I should keep notes on the accuracy of that tell because it could very well be total bullshit.

[Alisae]

Its so hard for me to read his posts
I don’t get it
I just don’t have the attention span for it or something?

That's fine, I get that, I have people like that too.

Idk exactly what my issue is he just felt like there was a certain way he wanted things to go and he wasn't really reacting to what was happening in a genuine way?

I should keep notes on the accuracy of that tell because it could very well be total bullshit.

What did you see that stood out to you regarding this?

[Something_Smart]

Hey mastina, PB, and whoever else has Dancefloor as locktown.

Want to talk about why?

[Something_Smart]

What did you see that stood out to you regarding this?

Don't remember exactly, it was soon after I replaced in I think.

Can go and find quotes but I still have to find quotes for Menalque first.