Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Something_Smart]

I see no reason to let someone actively work towards the other team's wincon stay in the game.

As cool as e is, Alisae is not God. So yes it's anti-town

in general

to disobey em, but that doesn't mean that in the specific case the person in question was trying to help the other team; they could just have had a differing opinion.

Same thing could be said for lolhammering, self-voting, and gambiting. These things may not usually work out in the long run, but that doesn't mean that the people doing them aren't trying to help town.

That said, Firebringer came dangerously close to the edge of overtly helping scum. I'll give PB the benefit of the doubt and say that he didn't cross it, even though I was of the opinion that he did.

[PenguinPower]

[Pink Ball]

Wait, SS, why me? I didn't ask for the governor fruit

[Something_Smart]

I'm giving your read on Fire the benefit of the doubt in saying that he might be town, because I was totally convinced he was just trolling scum.

[Titus]

I don't. Fireb is town

What's your opinion on the worst?

Read my ISO

I have multiple times. What is your current opinion?

[Pink Ball]

I don't. Fireb is town

What's your opinion on the worst?

Read my ISO

I have multiple times. What is your current opinion?

Titus I really don't want to be rude, but it seems like you're trying to push my buttons. I think my most recent posts are about my read on the worst. It's along with my posts about mastina, and how their interactions ressemble a game where mastina was scum, the worst was town and mastina got him mislynched on D1.

[Jingle]

Jingle, will Firedaddy get his vote back now that someone else died this day?

As far as I am concerned, Pine will continue to hold Firebringer's vote as proxy until either Firebringer changes his vote or D3 ends, whichever is sooner.

[Pink Ball]

I'm giving your read on Fire the benefit of the doubt in saying that he might be town, because I was totally convinced he was just trolling scum.

Oh ok got it, reread what you said and I misunderstood

[Pine]

Jingle, will Firedaddy get his vote back now that someone else died this day?

As far as I am concerned, Pine will continue to hold Firebringer's vote as proxy until either Firebringer changes his vote or D3 ends, whichever is sooner.

Which was, after all, the original deal. I don’t screw around with deceptive wording in my bargains. What part of “good faith” was confusing? The minute I break my word on these is the minute I lose credibility to make further bargains.

[Titus]

Pine, who would you want me hooded with if I won the neighborizer?

[Jingle]

JINGLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Pine]

Pine, who would you want me hooded with if I won the neighborizer?

That’s not how the game works.

As of right now, I keep the fruit. No one has interested me.

[Jingle]

Vote Count 3.5

Flavor

With 18 alive it is 10 to Lynch or 9 to No Lynch!

mastina (3): Pink Ball, Formerfish, Krazy,
Krazy (2): Titus, mastina,
Something_Smart (1): Firebringer,
Katsuki (1): Gamma Emerald,
Pink Ball (0):
Menalque (0):
Titus (0):
popsofctown (0):
Firebringer (0):
MariaR (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
chennisden (0):
PenguinPower (0):
the worst (0):
GreyICE (0):
Formerfish (0):
Iconeum (0):
Dannflor (0):

Not Voting (11): chennisden, Something_Smart, PenguinPower, Iconeum, GreyICE, Katsuki, Menalque, MariaR, the worst, Dannflor, popsofctown,


Alisae endorses: FUN TIMES!

Deadline: Day 3 will end after 10 days, on October 1st. This is in (expired on 2019-10-01 20:38:00).

Pine is offering a Governor fruit. Firebringer is bargaining for it.
Pine is offering a Neighborizer Fruit. Gamma Emerald and Titus are bargaining for it.
Pine is offering a Jailkeeper Fruit. PenguinPower is bargaining for it.
Gamme Emerald is V/LA. While his head is as strong as an Emerald, it is still inadvisable to use it as his primary means of attack.

[Pine]

VOTE: Chennisden

[Titus]

Ok, well then I'd hood with mastina, greyice, pp, ff, or SS.

:-p

[Formerfish]

I strongly feel we should flip PB, Fire or, The Worst.
Krazy, Pops, and Gamma are tier 2 reads.

The day 1 wagon on LLD feels like LLD taking a dive to protect her partner(s). Alisae suggests a Firewagon, and there's a counter on the worst. The worst feels independently scummy though as well.

Jjh actively resisted the LLD wagon even though LLD voting him was the impetus for her wagon (that's why Grey voted). Jjh wanted Fire and Krazy. In that range, LLD spends an insane amount of energy defending Fire.

Then, Fire gets the governor from Pine.

The worst MIGHT be town but should only get clearing if Fire is not a scum PR.

Fire loses his vote to get the governor...how convienent with someone studying VCA here.

Not to sound like a spoiled princess, but where is your scum read on me? I thought that

tonally

you had me pegged against a 4 year old meta of me?

That was a starting place, not my favorite thing to use FF. I was desperate to get started. I don't have you as locktown.

But you don't have me as scum anymore, why?

[Titus]

I strongly feel we should flip PB, Fire or, The Worst.
Krazy, Pops, and Gamma are tier 2 reads.

The day 1 wagon on LLD feels like LLD taking a dive to protect her partner(s). Alisae suggests a Firewagon, and there's a counter on the worst. The worst feels independently scummy though as well.

Jjh actively resisted the LLD wagon even though LLD voting him was the impetus for her wagon (that's why Grey voted). Jjh wanted Fire and Krazy. In that range, LLD spends an insane amount of energy defending Fire.

Then, Fire gets the governor from Pine.

The worst MIGHT be town but should only get clearing if Fire is not a scum PR.

Fire loses his vote to get the governor...how convienent with someone studying VCA here.

Not to sound like a spoiled princess, but where is your scum read on me? I thought that

tonally

you had me pegged against a 4 year old meta of me?

That was a starting place, not my favorite thing to use FF. I was desperate to get started. I don't have you as locktown.

But you don't have me as scum anymore, why?

The Fire/the worst dichotomy I feel is much more informative. I also feel LLD was a hard bus to save Fire or the worst, more likely Fire.

Right now, I'm voting PB and Krazy because Fire won't govern those. I'd compromise on Dann gtmh.

[Titus]

Pine, whatcha think of my hood choices, are you not entertainedned?

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Pink Ball

I think Titus was right here.

Mastina vs. Krazy is reading TvT today imo

[Dannflor]

@SS, I'm curious what it was exactly you felt I was wanting to go a certain way? I know you came in to me scum reading you but I feel like if that was the case I would have just ignored your posting.

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Pink Ball

I think Titus was right here.

Mastina vs. Krazy is reading TvT today imo

Also PB, your town read on me is weirdly weak. Like I understood it at the time you first made it, but I've posted quite a bit since then and you've played with town!me multiple times before, and nothing else tips you off that I'm town this game?

[Titus]

@FF, I think your vote is very poorly placed. Join me on PB or Krazy please.

[Dannflor]

I'd still lynch Krazy over Mastina, but their interactions today town ping me for both of them.

I'm not really convinced my pops' scum slip case.

[Dannflor]

by*

[Something_Smart]

@SS, I'm curious what it was exactly you felt I was wanting to go a certain way? I know you came in to me scum reading you but I feel like if that was the case I would have just ignored your posting.

You were using some really specific arguments about how I'd act as town versus scum despite having seen me play a total of three times, all as town.

Agenda driven or not they were absolutely you trying to look for arguments to support what you already wanted to believe.