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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:47 pm

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Newbie 1958: Random Mafia


Game Status:
Endgame.
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flavorOccasionally, in flips or VCs, I may post a quote or a picture. Or I may not. It is random, and without connection to the game.


PLAYERS:

01. Kerset *
02. Billy Pilgrim
03. Nezahualpilli *
Randbo *

04. Farkran
05. Evenstar *
06. Karnage
OnlyIAmMe
lilliaire *

07. the worst (SE)
Pine (SE) *

08. ofrhz (SE)
09. Micc (SE)

*denotes prod, -denotes nudge


ALIVE:

Spoiler: 1/9
01. Kerset
04. Farkran, mafia goon, survives and wins!

DEAD:

Spoiler: 8/9
06. Karnage
OnlyIAmMe
lilliaire *
, vanilla town, lynched D1
05. Evenstar *, vanilla town, killed N1
07. the worst (SE)
Pine (SE) *
, mafia goon, lynched D2, but wins posthumously
09. Micc (SE), town mason, killed N2
03. Nezahualpilli
Randbo *
, vanilla town, lynched D3
02. Billy Pilgrim, town mason, killed n3
08. ofrhz (SE), vanilla town, lynched D4
01. Kerset, vanilla town, killed in the scumpocalypse


EVENTS:

Spoiler: Day One
Daystart:
  • VC 1.01:
  • VC 1.02:
  • VC 1.03:
  • VC 1.04:
  • VC 1.05:
  • VC 1.06:
  • VC 1.07:
  • VC 1.08: Nezahualpilli replaces Randbo; the worst replaces Pine
  • ** *.**: OnlyIAmMe replaces lilliaire
  • VC 1.09:
  • VC 1.10:
  • VC 1.11:
  • VC 1.12: Karnage replaces OnlyIAmMe
  • VC 1.13:
  • VC 1.14:
  • VC 1.15:
  • VC 1.16:
  • VC 1.17:
  • VC 1.18:
  • VC 1.19:
  • VC 1.20:
VC 1.END: - Karnage, Vanilla Town, lynched

Spoiler: Day Two
Daystart: - Evenstar, Vanilla Town, killed
VC 2.01:
VC 2.END: - the worst, Mafia Goon, lynched

Spoiler: Day Three
Daystart: - Micc, Town Mason, killed
VC 3.01:
VC 3.END: - Nezahualpilli, Vanilla Town, lynched

Spoiler: Day Four
Daystart: - Billy Pilgrim, Town Mason, killed
VC 4.END: - ofrhz, Vanilla Town, lynched. Scum Victory!
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:47 pm

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Rules


Inspired by Plotinus's ruleset, with his multiple sources.

important bit
  • Day 1: up to 10 days, Day 2+ up to 7 days, Night: 48 hours.
  • Majority lynches
  • 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement, 24 hour weekends
  • Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
  • I am a teacher, with somewhat limited daytime access, but promise to respond to any issue within 15 hours.
  • Don’t be a dick

  1. Follow all site rules.

  2. Mod colour
    – My mod colour is
    #8000BF
    ; don't use it.
  3. Behaviour
    - Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself lynched if you try it.
  4. Don't talk about ongoing games
    - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
  5. Tiny text
    - no; keep it 70+ please.
  6. Provable randomness
    - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
  7. Cryptography
    - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
  8. Confirmation
    - You have about 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
  9. Days
    - Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
  10. Activity
    - You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
  11. Vacation/Limited Access
    If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
    V/LA
    in bold in the thread like this: [
    b]
    @Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
    [
    /b]. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
  12. Prodging
    - A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
  13. Quoting
    - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
  14. Voting
    - Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Teacher or
    Vote: Teacher
    . Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
    v]Teacher[
    /v] to vote and [
    uv]Teacher[
    /uv] to unvote.
  15. Lynching
    - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no lynch, the day will end without a lynch. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no lynch.
  16. Twilight
    - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
  17. Night
    - Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
  18. Action submissions
    - You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
  19. Reminders
    - If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
  20. Notes PT
    - Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
  21. Play to win
    - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:58 pm

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Setup Info

Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5


Spoiler: Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborYou are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Introduction and Tips
Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Site Tools


For those new to BBcode forums, there are multiple tools to help you (and others) navigate. The ISO link next to each post number will allow you to see all posts made by that single player in the thread. On bottom of the thread, you can set up 2 or 3 player ISOs to see interactions; "display posts by user", "+", and "+" are the links to do so. You can also search a game for all mentions of a player by using their name (or nickname) in the search this topic box on top; * functions as a wildcard in this search. When you want to refer to a specific post, you can provide a link by using the post tags: e.g., "in [
post][
/post], the moderator provided the player list."

In addition, the ego search function allows you to see all threads in which you have ever posted. This can be accessed through "view your posts" on the top of the screen. Finally, clicking a player's name will take you to their profile, where you can ego search them ("view their topics"), search within their posts for similar wording ("search user's posts"), or otherwise conduct meta research -- be careful, however, not to reference ongoing games.

Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers

L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo

LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:19 pm

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All role PMs have been sent out (in the order of the signup list so timestamps mean nothing)! We will start in (expired on 2019-09-25 21:30:00) or when [8/9] people have confirmed, whichever happens sooner.

The above clock and any others used throughout this game will be accurate from the time you loaded the page.

I will prod all players who have not confirmed in 24 hours, and replace in 36 hours if necessary.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:15 pm

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As of 8pm NY time Tuesday, 7 of 9 have confirmed. I have prodded the two remaining players.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:07 am

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With nine of nine confirmed, Day 1 starts now. Sunset will occur in (expired on 2019-10-05 21:00:00) (Saturday, October 5 at 9pm NY time), or when a lynch is achieved. With nine alive, a lynch takes five votes.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:09 am

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Hey kids
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

Act 3, Scene 1 of
Julius Caesar
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:17 am

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Hype!

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:32 am

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All these new people, fun.

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:14 am

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Hello everyone.

I hate RVS, so i'm going to entirely skip that phase. Allow me to introduce myself:

I am Farkran, this is my second game in this site, but i have been playing FMs a long time ago elsewhere. Last game i was a mason.

Misc info:
- i am from italy, native language italian, i'm active most of the day but i will be sleeping during CEST nighttime.
- my meta is to talk a lot and getting others to talk. I attention-whore the game hard and usually die very early. I do this both as town and scum.
- i have a hunch that i may know who to target for today's lynch, but i need to confirm it first.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 9, Farkran wrote:Hello everyone.

I hate RVS, so i'm going to entirely skip that phase. Allow me to introduce myself:

I am Farkran, this is my second game in this site, but i have been playing FMs a long time ago elsewhere. Last game i was a mason.

Misc info:
- i am from italy, native language italian, i'm active most of the day but i will be sleeping during CEST nighttime.
- my meta is to talk a lot and getting others to talk. I attention-whore the game hard and usually die very early. I do this both as town and scum.
- i have a hunch that i may know who to target for today's lynch, but i need to confirm it first.
So why are you skipping RVS this game? Because it looked like you participated in it last time. Also, how do you possibly have a Lynch target four posts in?

And if you do, why aren't you voting it? Also, if you die early as town is it due to mis-lynching or being NK'd?

VOTE: Farkran
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:38 am

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Who give a sht about your affiliation last game?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 10, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
In post 9, Farkran wrote:Hello everyone.

I hate RVS, so i'm going to entirely skip that phase. Allow me to introduce myself:

I am Farkran, this is my second game in this site, but i have been playing FMs a long time ago elsewhere. Last game i was a mason.

Misc info:
- i am from italy, native language italian, i'm active most of the day but i will be sleeping during CEST nighttime.
- my meta is to talk a lot and getting others to talk. I attention-whore the game hard and usually die very early. I do this both as town and scum.
- i have a hunch that i may know who to target for today's lynch, but i need to confirm it first.
So why are you skipping RVS this game? Because it looked like you participated in it last time. Also, how do you possibly have a Lynch target four posts in?

And if you do, why aren't you voting it? Also, if you die early as town is it due to mis-lynching or being NK'd?

VOTE: Farkran
1. I did not, check again.

2. I need to confirm something first, then i will be happy to do so.

3. Both, actually. Last time i was n1ked for being active and unpredictable. In my past games (role names may vary) i have been n1ked by a vigilante as a jester, n1ked by mafia as a mason (that time they did NOT know i was a mason, though) and mislynched d1 or d2 fairly often - including that one time when i was targeted by the mafia Framer and investigated by the town Cop - guess what, i drew attention from both sides. In my past scum games, i managed to stay alive a bit longer because i was safe from nks and i consider myself a fairly good PR sniper.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:49 am

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In post 11, Randbo wrote:Who give a sht about your affiliation last game?
Wow, interesting entrance and hello to you. Any input beyond being mad that Farkran gave more information than she needed to?
You're not interested in her affiliation last game, so is there a reason you don't feel like you need to see how she plays as town?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:00 am

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Are any psychopaths in here?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:06 am

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Mad? That is just the way I speak.

Y do u think it is a great idea to learn how other plays from their pass affiliation?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:10 am

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In post 12, Farkran wrote:
1. I did not, check again.

2. I need to confirm something first, then i will be happy to do so.

3. Both, actually. Last time i was n1ked for being active and unpredictable. In my past games (role names may vary) i have been n1ked by a vigilante as a jester, n1ked by mafia as a mason (that time they did NOT know i was a mason, though) and mislynched d1 or d2 fairly often - including that one time when i was targeted by the mafia Framer and investigated by the town Cop - guess what, i drew attention from both sides. In my past scum games, i managed to stay alive a bit longer because i was safe from nks and i consider myself a fairly good PR sniper.
I can't wait to see what you are talking about in 2. I also can't possibly imagine what you would need confirmed. When do you plan on being able to let us know whether you got the confirmation you need.

Also, why did you communicate to us that you die early often?

Pedit: I'm a lawyer, so I may be a psychopath. I haven't taken the Hare yet.

And knowing she has a towngame on site means I can go check it to see if her play in general lines up with how she played that game. Not saying it's perfect, but it's better than acting like previous games don't matter.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:24 am

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That is cancerous.
Let's say I developed a "scummy" game style. Yet I kept on flipping town. A reputation is attached to me. Now finally I landed a scum role. But since my playstyle is scummy, in your eyes (from your description) that is the way I play as town.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 17, Randbo wrote:That is cancerous.
Let's say I developed a "scummy" game style. Yet I kept on flipping town. A reputation is attached to me. Now finally I landed a scum role. But since my playstyle is scummy, in your eyes (from your description) that is the way I play as town.
This is a straw argument if I've ever seen one. You're suggesting that my position is to only look at meta, which isn't what I said. What I am saying is that meta is a component of making reads. For instance, I noticed that in the previous game, Farkran didn't make the grand introduction that she did this game. So I've been probing at that.

Why are you so adamant about not looking at previous games?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:45 am

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My strawman argument is the reason y. Reason that I seen used many time in many games. People defended behaviors with "that is just the way they are". Patterns. Human being does love patterns.

Now my turn: so now that Farkran had a massive introduction, Which as a town she haven't done before. What is in your mind while probing through her post?
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:48 am

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In post 19, Randbo wrote:My strawman argument is the reason y. Reason that I seen used many time in many games. People defended behaviors with "that is just the way they are". Patterns. Human being does love patterns.

Now my turn: so now that Farkran had a massive introduction, Which as a town she haven't done before. What is in your mind while probing through her post?
Would like her to answer my question first, but I promise I have some thoughts on her. You, not so much at the moment.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:57 am

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In post 16, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
In post 12, Farkran wrote:
1. I did not, check again.

2. I need to confirm something first, then i will be happy to do so.

3. Both, actually. Last time i was n1ked for being active and unpredictable. In my past games (role names may vary) i have been n1ked by a vigilante as a jester, n1ked by mafia as a mason (that time they did NOT know i was a mason, though) and mislynched d1 or d2 fairly often - including that one time when i was targeted by the mafia Framer and investigated by the town Cop - guess what, i drew attention from both sides. In my past scum games, i managed to stay alive a bit longer because i was safe from nks and i consider myself a fairly good PR sniper.
I can't wait to see what you are talking about in 2. I also can't possibly imagine what you would need confirmed. When do you plan on being able to let us know whether you got the confirmation you need.

Also, why did you communicate to us that you die early often?

Pedit: I'm a lawyer, so I may be a psychopath. I haven't taken the Hare yet.

And knowing she has a towngame on site means I can go check it to see if her play in general lines up with how she played that game. Not saying it's perfect, but it's better than acting like previous games don't matter.
I will tell you as soon as i know. Currently, i don't have the necessary elements to confirm my theory, and it would be detrimental to speak about it beforehand. Most likely tomorrow (almost sleeptime here).

As for my grand meta-ish introduction, last game i learned the hard way that metareading is a strong thing in this site. I used to play anon, but it's not a custom here, so i had to adapt even though i don't like to meta-analyze.

Counter-question: i have my reasons to hold back on my hunch, but what are yours for not providing your thoughts about me?

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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:09 pm

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By two post...
2 post
you already have a hunch who to target!?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:09 pm

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VOTE: Farkran
In post 9, Farkran wrote: - i have a hunch that i may know who to target for today's lynch, but i need to confirm it first.
In post 12, Farkran wrote:2. I need to confirm something first, then i will be happy to do so.
In post 21, Farkran wrote:I will tell you as soon as i know. Currently, i don't have the necessary elements to confirm my theory, and it would be detrimental to speak about it beforehand. Most likely tomorrow (almost sleeptime here).
If it's detrimental to speak about this read until you've confirmed it, I can't help but wonder why you lead off the game by speaking about it? It reads as being unnaturally eager to say something meaningful for the sake of looking helpful.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:14 pm

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In post 21, Farkran wrote:
In post 16, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
In post 12, Farkran wrote:
1. I did not, check again.

2. I need to confirm something first, then i will be happy to do so.

3. Both, actually. Last time i was n1ked for being active and unpredictable. In my past games (role names may vary) i have been n1ked by a vigilante as a jester, n1ked by mafia as a mason (that time they did NOT know i was a mason, though) and mislynched d1 or d2 fairly often - including that one time when i was targeted by the mafia Framer and investigated by the town Cop - guess what, i drew attention from both sides. In my past scum games, i managed to stay alive a bit longer because i was safe from nks and i consider myself a fairly good PR sniper.
I can't wait to see what you are talking about in 2. I also can't possibly imagine what you would need confirmed. When do you plan on being able to let us know whether you got the confirmation you need.

Also, why did you communicate to us that you die early often?

Pedit: I'm a lawyer, so I may be a psychopath. I haven't taken the Hare yet.

And knowing she has a towngame on site means I can go check it to see if her play in general lines up with how she played that game. Not saying it's perfect, but it's better than acting like previous games don't matter.
I will tell you as soon as i know. Currently, i don't have the necessary elements to confirm my theory, and it would be detrimental to speak about it beforehand. Most likely tomorrow (almost sleeptime here).

As for my grand meta-ish introduction, last game i learned the hard way that metareading is a strong thing in this site. I used to play anon, but it's not a custom here, so i had to adapt even though i don't like to meta-analyze.

Counter-question: i have my reasons to hold back on my hunch, but what are yours for not providing your thoughts about me?

(out of game: i have a female avatar but i'm actually a guy, see the "he" in my Pronoun slot)
I apologize for misgendering you. I saw the female avatar and the picture primed my brain. I'll fix it now.

I have you leaning scum at the moment. For one, your introduction this game was quite different to last game. I also noted that when someone voted you last game when you were town, in your second post of the game you immediately voted them. I voted you when I started asking you some questions and you didn't vote me back. Also, your statement that you get killed early as either alignment slightly pinged me. Then in your response you clarified that it was sometimes night kills, so for that you get points, but you then said it's also true that you get mis-lynched often. That strikes me as an excuse for play that seems scummy and is a subtle way to excuse your scummy play as still town.

Those things all happened on page 1, so slight scumlean.

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