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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:05 am

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In post 123, Aristophanes wrote:But if I am not picked up then I'm def doing the Fantasy peague so no pressure
My suggestion doesn't preclude both.

(Which is kinda the major point for my suggesting a pre-role pm draft as that's the only fair way to let players play in the fantasy league too and I think the overlap in desire will be significant.)
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:08 am

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lmk if I can help at all
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:09 am

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pffft. We're making Nero do all the work.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:16 am

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I’m excited to see all the teams.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:22 am

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In post 118, Untrod Tripod wrote:My plan is to make a PT and a Discord server for each team.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:01 pm

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in free agent
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:08 pm

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In post 116, Untrod Tripod wrote:Here's what I'll do: to make it easier to put teams together I will post a table of currently entered teams along with a list of free agents. If you would like to explicitly list yourself as a free agent in this thread just do something like

/in as a free agent
or something like that and it'll be easy for unfinished teams to know who's available or for groups of free agents to form teams
Where is that list?
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:11 pm

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Presumably it'll be in the OP when he gets a chance. Doesn't seem to exist yet.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 128, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m excited to wreck all the teams.
FTFY. :twisted:
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:13 pm

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In post 133, Jingle wrote:
In post 128, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m excited to wreck all the teams.
FTFY. :twisted:
we talked about this
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:21 pm

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In post 121, Jingle wrote:
In post 104, Firebringer wrote:how would a fantasy team mafia workkk...
Pods if enough interest.

Players are drafted blind from a list we demand from UT immediately before role PMs are sent: 1 player per game.

On wagon lynch of opposite alignment +2 points.
Off wagon lynch of opposite alignment +1 point.
No Lynch 0 points.
Lynch of same alignment -1 points.
Lynch of self -2 points.

NK'd players considered on wagon for the rest of the game, lynched players considered off wagon for the rest of the game.

Randomly paired with a person from your pod to be playing against each phase (numbering constant across games, to prevent pacing disparity mattering.) Winner within a pod is based on phases won, Winners of pods compare overall score.

No discussion during the event to prevent ongoing games shenanigans.
Players must name their fantasy teams. Points tallied after the main event is over.

Obviously we'd need UT's permission/cooperation, but from his end the only thing that would be necessary would be announcing playerlists for the games a day or two in advance of the actual start of the event/distrubution of role PMs, which may even be preferable from an organization standpoint.

We could go either opt in or opt out for the TM players to prevent hurt feelings about not being drafted/not being drafted early enough.
This lacks the big impact/swing players kind of feel. Like nothing here equates to a touchdown or homerun. I guess the closest thing is drawing early NKs. Just looking it over it seems like there will be a blob of similar scores for the most part.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:25 pm

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In post 133, Jingle wrote:
In post 128, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m excited to wreck all the teams.
FTFY. :twisted:
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:30 pm

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In post 134, Alisae wrote:
In post 133, Jingle wrote:
In post 128, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m excited to wreck all the teams.
FTFY. :twisted:
we talked about this
I am supposed to be trolling him
thats the plan
You trolled me enough last Team Mafia with Magical Stories -.-
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 137, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 134, Alisae wrote:
In post 133, Jingle wrote:
In post 128, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m excited to wreck all the teams.
FTFY. :twisted:
we talked about this
I am supposed to be trolling him
thats the plan
You trolled me enough last Mafia with Magical Stories -.-
I didn't troll you
the rand did :cool:
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 pm

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In post 121, Jingle wrote:
In post 104, Firebringer wrote:how would a fantasy team mafia workkk...
Pods if enough interest.

Players are drafted blind from a list we demand from UT immediately before role PMs are sent: 1 player per game.

On wagon lynch of opposite alignment +2 points.
Off wagon lynch of opposite alignment +1 point.
No Lynch 0 points.
Lynch of same alignment -1 points.
Lynch of self -2 points.

NK'd players considered on wagon for the rest of the game, lynched players considered off wagon for the rest of the game.

Randomly paired with a person from your pod to be playing against each phase (numbering constant across games, to prevent pacing disparity mattering.) Winner within a pod is based on phases won, Winners of pods compare overall score.

No discussion during the event to prevent ongoing games shenanigans.
Players must name their fantasy teams. Points tallied after the main event is over.

Obviously we'd need UT's permission/cooperation, but from his end the only thing that would be necessary would be announcing playerlists for the games a day or two in advance of the actual start of the event/distrubution of role PMs, which may even be preferable from an organization standpoint.

We could go either opt in or opt out for the TM players to prevent hurt feelings about not being drafted/not being drafted early enough.
if it's only players not involved in the event whatsoever participating in fantasy mafia, can't u just make a spectator pt for ongoing games discussion?
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:27 pm

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make alt -> go to pt

this doesn't stop a RAS situation sadly
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 140, chennisden wrote:make alt -> go to pt

this doesn't stop a RAS situation sadly
this is a silly comment to make

mods let players who aren't in the game in spectator threads all the time - but those players (I imagine) are vetted just like the players who play the game - the forum moderator asks a site moderator (all of which can see who is an alt of whom). RAS got around this using VPNs

Conveniently, all of these games are straight moderated by site moderators, so they don't even have to ask anyone - they can tell.

Oh, yeah, and they can tell even if you don't mark that it's an alt of yourself by looking at the IP you log in with. Unless you regularly move places or use a VPN, there's no getting around it.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:31 pm

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That I'm aware of
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:35 pm

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In post 139, Enter wrote:if it's only players not involved in the event whatsoever participating in fantasy mafia, can't u just make a spectator pt for ongoing games discussion?
Well, yeah, but I've already been recruited to a team so I wouldn't be able to play. :shifty:
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:53 pm

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that might make potential replacements a little tricky, too. :c
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:56 pm

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I don't think those in the Fantasy league should be players. Conflict of interest and outside influence and such.

I will only be doing one or the other.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:04 pm

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In post 145, Aristophanes wrote:I don't think those in the Fantasy league should be players. Conflict of interest and outside influence and such.

I will only be doing one or the other.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:05 pm

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In post 140, chennisden wrote:make alt -> go to pt

this doesn't stop a RAS situation sadly
Spectator PTs for players not in games, should always remain unspoiled.
Any spoiled PTs, should be limited to the actual players in that game.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:13 pm

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In post 146, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 145, Aristophanes wrote:I don't think those in the Fantasy league should be players. Conflict of interest and outside influence and such.

I will only be doing one or the other.
I beg to differ, who's taking the odds here?
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:27 am

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In post 145, Aristophanes wrote:I don't think those in the Fantasy league should be players. Conflict of interest and outside influence and such.

I will only be doing one or the other.
I think that the nature of TM win >>> Fantasy League win and my proposed no discussion while active, draft before known alignments would solve it. I doubt there's enough interest in people who are nonplayers to populate the league.

The only real conflict of interest possible would be in people who had the ability to influence player distribution, which... I trust the mod team not to be asshats.

If it's going to be limited to non participants I really don't care, but I don't think you'll end up with enough people to be more than what the mod team bets were in 2018 (t/s win for each game, double points if you bet before the teams are assigned). I'd also be concerned with potential replacement pools, but I think that will just end up with nobody playing the fantasy league because they might want to replace in. :shrug:

Just my two cents.
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