Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[the worst]

via flavour chickadee/nacho died to the same thingy and no kill n1 but idrk if flavour is AI

[popsofctown]

danflor u can be town irl if you promise not to rescind your hug

but for other slots i am going to at minimum bounce the idea off of people about "go to dann's house and watch buffy, which is a scary show that makes ppl hide under the covers" is mayyybe not definitely maybe a crum

Or Ank never thought that Nacho would be targeted and died when he was killed.

Pine made a throw away comment about no killing to fuck with us. I think that he told us the truth and disguised it as wifom to further fuck with us. Hell maybe he thought that talking about it would drive the vig out of the shadows to take responsibility for one of the kills.

So what if Ank is dead because the vig made a weird shot that Ank didn't see coming and scum really did no kill and here we are on day 3 still wondering where Ank was that night.

Night 2 was clear that JJH was killed by a tree, there was no treeesque flavor for either of the kills night 1. We can even look at Ari's death to see if there is anything there.

This is drunkpops
but drunkpops agreeing with soberpops of the past month
the equity in Ankamius getting too preoccupied with league to submit her night action (not just the finger manipulation, also the mental equity of finding someone with less nightkill equity as her, and having to crumb that, as someone who did not even truly vote LLD) is 10 times higher than the equity in ank hiding behind a rando replacement of a slot iwith like 5 posts and the incoming replacement doesn't overlap well with ank's career in mafiascum afaik.

Both of those i put pretty far below a chennis hide, menalque hide, or dannflor hide
direct ank nk kill obviously has lots of meaning with respect to mastina's BG claim and that's why sober pops spent a lot of time thinking about it

like
especially when jjh was also more or less a "we want you to do status quo o.k." nk
and ank would be such a "we want you to do status quo" nk because she historically is a n1 nk (i have not been informed why i assume by d3 she is townlock but she has told me she is often n1 nk) and her reads were not a strong stance on lld wagon and shade for chennis wagon which literally did not get a third voter in a 23p game

but like
yeah if you spout this wifom shit about pine actually fucking no killing in a game he wants to brag about next year i'm going to be riding mariar's back on her pocket dark read on you with an emerald encrusted saddle imported from a continent the people of my civilization haven't even fucking discovered yet

[the worst]

This game is 20:7.

no SK but the knife source is killing so maliciously it feels like a scum kill.

[Formerfish]

I dont think its AI, but i think it is a signature of sorts.

Like look at JJH, the branches came out of the forest and swallowed him up killing him.

Nacho and chick were both stabbed.

Ank was missing.

If it wasn't meant to be that way then i dont see why nacho and chick both got stabbed? If it is just flavor why wouldnt jingle come up with a different way to kill someone on n2?

[the worst]

Suspect Ank kill flavour is intentionally ambiguous given she could have died via like virtually anything greater than a harsh sneeze. Also she was trying to bait a NK n1. Can't believe I didn't pick up on that earlier. I wonder if a strongman would kill a hider.

[the worst]

Given the concept that Jingle is a semi townsiding mod I think it makes a lot of sense that flavour is written to townside.

[popsofctown]

WAIT does strongman outprioritize hider?


i thought hider outprioritizes strongman and strongman only outprioritizes doctor

this is a meaningful distinction

[Dannflor]

Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks.

It is, however, trumped by roles that prevent the victim from being targeted at all, namely Commuter and Hider.

from the wiki

[Dannflor]

ok now im going to bed for real i promise

[popsofctown]

oh

it is disappointing that I am smarter than the worst

[the worst]

I thought so as well. But it's a theme so as long as its balanced it's like.. improbable but not inconceivable.

Regardless the idea that Ank was the scum nk but is flavourmasked by virtue of being a hider (allowing that flavour clues are very much a "soft magic" kinda thing) is making my brain tingly.

[the worst]

her role very much suggests that she needs to have had her target killed to die with them. so unless she targeted Nacho, she targeted scum. okay I'll concede she probably wasn't the scum nk, it was probably interrupted.

[Formerfish]

This is an open letter to anyone who want to scum read me:

Bring it on. More than 1 person has intimated that they would like to scumread me if certain things keep happening and I say fuck that noise. Come at me correct or keep my name out of your mouths.

If you think that im scum, then case me.

It would be fantastic is people stopped treating me with knee jerk reactions and quoting one of my posts and saying that I could be scum based of that one post. It lazy and its disingenuous and really its just another distraction taking away from us trying to form a cohesive plan here on how to move forward.

I will accept no more shade, and will just start my Buscemi list like in Billy Madison with anyone who slaps at me with a weak wrist.

[Formerfish]

I thought so as well. But it's a theme so as long as its balanced it's like.. improbable but not inconceivable.

Regardless the idea that Ank was the scum nk but is flavourmasked by virtue of being a hider (allowing that flavour clues are very much a "soft magic" kinda thing) is making my brain tingly.

I think that if scum outright killed Ank that the kill flavor would be the same as JJH.

Because Ank just disappeared that says to me that the hider role was in play somehow. So either Ank hid behind Nacho, or picked scum.

[Alisae]

pops stop using pink

[popsofctown]

[the worst]

Confirming her cause of death would be tmi fishy. I think her flip is intentionally inconclusive but we can agree she was /unlikely/ the scum kill. Anyway

[Something_Smart]

no SK but the knife source is killing so maliciously it feels like a scum kill.

Huh

[the worst]

We don't have a serial killer. But the knife kills are Nacho and Chickadee. That doesn't look like a town vig. lol.

[Something_Smart]

What the hell else do you think it is?

[the worst]

I don't know!!!! If this wasn't MS.net I'd say it's a scum vig without blinking.

[Titus]

Look if Fire doesn't wind up dead, we'll know the vig is either scum or fire. Even those townreading him know he needs to die. If only one kill happens, we learn from that too.

Let's lynch Krazy and move on.

[Pink Ball]

pops stop using pink

I don't feel used enough tbh

[Jingle]

Vote Count 3.10

Flavor

With 18 alive it is 10 to Lynch or 9 to No Lynch!

mastina (6): Katsuki, MariaR, popsofctown, Krazy, Firebringer, PenguinPower,
Krazy (5): mastina, Dannflor, Menalque, Titus, the worst,
popsofctown (1): Iconeum,
chennisden (1): Something_Smart, Gamma Emerald, Formerfish,
Firebringer (0):
the worst (0):
Pink Ball (0):
PenguinPower (0):
Katsuki (0):
Something_Smart (0):
Menalque (0):
Titus (0):
MariaR (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
GreyICE (0):
Formerfish (0):
Iconeum (0):
Dannflor (0):

Not Voting (5): chennisden, GreyICE, Pink Ball,


Alisae endorses: mastina

Deadline: Day 3 will end after 10 days, on October 1st. This is in (expired on 2019-10-01 20:38:00).

Pine is offering a Governor fruit. Firebringer is bargaining for it.
Pine is offering a Neighborizer Fruit. Gamma Emerald and Titus are bargaining for it.
Pine is offering a Jailkeeper Fruit. PenguinPower is bargaining for it.
Gamma Emerald is V/LA. While his head is as strong as an Emerald, it is still inadvisable to use it as his primary means of attack.
Titus is V/LA through Thursday? Why? It's a mystery.

[Jingle]

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