Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[Menalque]

VOTE: Elbirn

Okay at this point if Elbirn isn't scum then I don't think anyone is scum.

Elbirn lied about being a gladiator of all things!

Wait, did he? Where?

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: Elbirn

Okay at this point if Elbirn isn't scum then I don't think anyone is scum.

Elbirn lied about being a gladiator of all things!

Wait, did he? Where?

He posted a fake gladiator action in this post:

Maybe I'll just sheep TD

This seems like a good plan that cannot and will not go wrong

Cool help me bus my buddies

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mastina

Gladiate: Mastina

If Elbirn were actually a gladiator, the only allowed votes would be Elbirn and mastina.

[Menalque]

I don’t see why that’s scummy

It’s (1) pretty patently fake

(2) if anything the effort to gambit there is prob lowkey town indicative

[TemporalLich]

I already made an Elbirn scumcase in 1150.

tl;dr Elbirn is an openwolf

[Menalque]

A lot of that case seems v stretchy

What about shit posting/naked votes makes him scum? Why do you think that behaviour is more likely to come from scum than from town?

[TemporalLich]

A lot of that case seems v stretchy

What about shit posting/naked votes makes him scum? Why do you think that behaviour is more likely to come from scum than from town?

naked votes are a pretty lazy and scummy way to vote.

it can easily be seen as opportunistic

shit posting is probably town-AI tbh

[TemporalLich]

if your entire ISO is shit posting... that's another thing, a lack of effort is anti-town.

[Elbirn]

Ok, I give up. If TL is town then I am just going to quit this game. No one is allowed to have this many scummy posts AND VCA pointing at them and not die.

VOTE: TL

How does VCA point towards him when no one has flipped scum?


Also ftr fake claiming gladiator is a thing I do in nearly every game, it is to me as fake claiming masons is to mastina

[Elbirn]

I still think TL is just stupid town

[Menalque]

Yo elbirn can you talk me through your progression on mastina?

[Menalque]

if your entire ISO is shit posting... that's another thing, a lack of effort is anti-town.

Do you think elbirn’s entire ISO is just shit posting?

[Menalque]

I still think TL is just stupid town

Why do you think this as opposed to him being scum trying to get you mislynched?

[Menalque]

I just reread ele’s ISO again and I don’t think it’s town!ele this game

[Menalque]

Partly because it’s just v empty and devoid of content but also the tone seems much more carefully managed. The occasional bits where he’s jokey sound more to me like someone trying to replicate the sound of their towngame than someone genuinely living it

[Elbirn]

Yo elbirn can you talk me through your progression on mastina?

I can do this soon(tm) but not now

The tldr though as I've said before is that she's a bullshitter

Her content feels very hollow to me, she's coasting, previous attempts to poke her for content were basically met with "my reads are the consensus reads and that gives me CLOUT and also means I don't have to do anything", whenever she does post it feels like nothing

I still think TL is just stupid town

Why do you think this as opposed to him being scum trying to get you mislynched?

Because scum would be smarter than this
Or at least I hope
Maybe calculated is a better word, I'm not trying to be a dick to people

TL is easily goaded by me into making the weakest of weaksauce cases on me. Why doesn't scum just not take the bait instead of making subpar content that won't convince anyone

And with TL being a basically universally agreed upon scumread, where are his teammates? Who is defending him? Is TL scum just abandoned by his entire team?

Nah son TL is mislynch bait. He seems driven by an earnest newb-town ideology of "lol lying is always bad" and "if you're not try-harding you're scum" and he's reee'ing at me over it and it's annoying but I see the newb-town motivation and motivation is how we find the scum, frend

[TiphaineDeath]

VCA=the dumb-wagon on JJH that has two scum on it.

[Elbirn]

Mastina is likely to be town to me because she thought the same way I did about the Jjh wagon. The only reality in which mastina=scum is the reality in which jjh also=scum which seems less and less likely.

One of Elbirn-TL-EP should die today.

If you'll look at my so-called Tinfoil post and what follows it I find the full reasonable team of Jjh-elbirn-mast.

It seems significantly more likely at this point that my new theory is correct but you asked for all my possible worlds.

Am I the only person who got a green role PM

Or are you all actually fucking stupid

[Elbirn]

Like let's be clear here

1. You say the team is JJ/Mastina/Yours Truly
2. Mastina thinks the JJ wagon is bad so...you change your read into mastina and JJ being town, unless they're scum *together*, which should be where your mind is at considering point 1, but it simply isn't
3. TL is scum for voting JJ, and the VCA is that two scum are on that wagon even though no one has flipped.

Fucking what

[TiphaineDeath]

1. I said that earlier, it does not currently seem likely, but I am still considering it.

2. The terribleness of the wagon on JJH says he is town. Also all of my actual READS on him that aren't me going "WTF IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW" say he is town. Mastina makes sense as town too frankly. They could still be scum together, but it does not seem like a currently likely world.

3. I don't know what your problem with this is. Only using VCA with flips is silly, broaden your mind .

4. You have cemented yourself further in my mind as a TL-Buddy for when he flips red, thank you <3.

[mastina]

Am I right in thinking that the lynchpool for most people today is something like (EP, elbirn, TL, ele)? Could we try to narrow that down to 2 candidates so that we have a choice but it’s clearer what everyone’s defined stances are

Sure.
EP ~= TL > Elements > Elbirn.

[mastina]

Oh because shes a bullshitter

I mean, I am, but.
1: Haven't really bullshitted this game to my memory outside of the transparent mason semi-joke claim.
2: Bullshitting's a towntell of mine since scumastina doesn't lie, so.

[mastina]

Why do you townread mastina? On what grounds my dude?

I mean, fair chance TL's townread comes from him being scum but if you're arguing that I must have a reason to be town in order to not be scum, you're running afoul of a fallacy mfriend.

[mastina]

Kinda giving me jeebies how elbirn got on it tho

To be honest I'm of two minds there.
Some of what Elbirn posts makes me think "actually that mindset while obviously not very protown looks like it came from town", other parts of me think "there's no way that this forced aggression from Elbirn is naturally occurring and it looks like scum faking bravado", so. Am ambivalent there. Sometimes he's making me think he's way too low on my lynch list; other times he's making me think that he shouldn't be on it.

[Elements]

Martina, are you town?

[Chemist1422]

Hi I’m back

Is it bad I’m concerned about the fact that no one’s pressured me like

At all