Large Normal 223 | New Beginnings | GAME OVER

[Titus]

I can’t really put it into words, but I think Profii might be scum.

Well, I could see Profli!scum protecting Garmr (regardless of Garmr alignment).

[Rick Dalton]

I can’t really put it into words, but I think Profii might be scum.

Nah

Aight, I’ll take your word for it.

[Rick Dalton]

I can’t really put it into words, but I think Profii might be scum.

Well, I could see Profli!scum protecting Garmr (regardless of Garmr alignment).

That was like the cherry on the sundae for me.

I don’t like the stances he’s been taking overall, if that makes sense.

It always seems like it’s more for gamestate manipulation and political than actually him thinking it.

[Titus]

I am kinda jaded on Garmr given our last game

[profii]

I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum

[texcat]

I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum

I don't understand this. Are you saying he is smart enough as town? The scum have an entire team to help work out fake claims. Do you not think any of them are smart enough?

[AaronFrost]

I still think Garmr is town actually.

Bad play is bad play, but this feels like a bad townie play to me.

[AaronFrost]

Profii hasn't really been on my radar honestly. His posts have felt mostly townie to me. I don't think scum would defend Garmr here.

[Tchill13]

I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum

I don't understand this. Are you saying he is smart enough as town? The scum have an entire team to help work out fake claims. Do you not think any of them are smart enough?

Smart enough as town made me chuckle.

usually these comments mean (if scum hed have to be pretty smart)

(if town its just bad play)

no offence to garmr. profii said it not me.

[profii]

I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy

But as scum if you give a result that catches you out you're probably getting lynched and when you are on the minority team if you die the stakes are higher - taking such a risk would be dumb imo

[Tchill13]

I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy

just got a mental image of some goth teen wearing the joker outfit and walking on grass beside a sign that says "do not walk on grass".

which is how i view all solo gambits here.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

@profii: I won't confirm nor deny; but -just out of curiosity- what role do you have down for me in your notes?

[profii]

I choose not to speculate

[texcat]

I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy

But as scum if you give a result that catches you out you're probably getting lynched and when you are on the minority team if you die the stakes are higher - taking such a risk would be dumb imo

But what was the risk, really? Who was going to catch scum!Garmr out? The doc was the only one, and that would be assuming that the doc exists and did not actually protect Carca. And generally trading a scum for the doc is not that bad a trade. Scum!Garmr just got really unlucky when Carca claimed ascetic on D2. Most might have thought that she would have at least hinted at it, if not outright claimed on D1. Plus he's still relying on the fall back position of cRaZy town, and so getting caught out seems like it was no risk at all.

[profii]

I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy

But as scum if you give a result that catches you out you're probably getting lynched and when you are on the minority team if you die the stakes are higher - taking such a risk would be dumb imo

But what was the risk, really? Who was going to catch scum!Garmr out? The doc was the only one, and that would be assuming that the doc exists and did not actually protect Carca. And generally trading a scum for the doc is not that bad a trade. Scum!Garmr just got really unlucky when Carca claimed ascetic on D2. Most might have thought that she would have at least hinted at it, if not outright claimed on D1. Plus he's still relying on the fall back position of cRaZy town, and so getting caught out seems like it was no risk at all.

So garmr potentially lied about this supposed doc voyeur result

It seems unusual to me that no one has jumped on it and said "omg lynch all liars" which usually happens

I agree with you that sacrificing a scum for finding the doc is probably worthy for scum but we either have no doc or a smart doc who stayed quiet in this scenario

I suppose in this instance the claim is designed to appear like a mason saving move so it takes away the scrutiny but also potentially lure out a doc

So sure it can be scum but wed have to also believe that Garmr, who likes a fun claim managed to roll the scum goon or least useful scum PR which would be too coincidental for me to go with it - there is a higher probability that garmr could coach someone into this claim I think.

So I think it was genuine attempt to mason save that backfires a bit... the risk if you are scum is people are going to constantly throw shade at you the longer you live because you wont be considered trustworthy which will harm your long term plans I guess

[Titus]

I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum

Seems like you and I are in the same place, well unless scum!profli. Scum would have to endorse the gambit. I don't see that happening.

[Carcalilly]

I still think Garmr is town actually.

Bad play is bad play, but this feels like a bad townie play to me.

that sounds so garmr lmao

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: EeveeLution

If this is role madness, I think that makes it more likely Tchill is town.

[Alonzo]

@profii: I won't confirm nor deny; but -just out of curiosity- what role do you have down for me in your notes?

Poor man's Alonzo

[gobbledygook]

Profii isn’t scum

[Alonzo]

@cliff

Riding solo or hydra? Sorry cba to go and look

5 heads on this hydra

VOTE: Alonzo

Alonzo has provided nothing after replacing a slot that provided nothing

He's also talked about me in like 1/3 of his posts so far and I really don;t like that

There is a chance Rick Dalton is scum

I think the chances of Rick being scum increase if cliff tells me he is townreading Rick.

Do you townread Rick cliff?

I also still dont get this and he never elaborated on it. Also never did anything when I said rick was town

Because I want to sort you?

This lamesauce vote and reason is a long way from day one Rick Vs Elem.

I thought I recognised your style day one which is why I ask (seriously) about hydra status

[Titus]

VOTE: EeveeLution

If this is role madness, I think that makes it more likely Tchill is town.

Wait this isn't replaced?

[EeveeLution Army]

how does tchill town = me scum?

[gobbledygook]

Mutually exclusive thoughts in that post

[Garmr]

I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum

Can you rephrase that to too cautious as scum.